Only thing i know is the software still full of severely bug, i doesn't have any idea more than that.
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Next workstation-class mac will be called Mac Studio
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can you test that? guys from imore already knew from Thursday and made a video about it next day on March 4
So , again a lot of people knew about the name last week
And from the past, i take this with a grain of salt...people here, already been here in 2016 with the same "i see, i have somebody, i saw 2-3 prototypes " with the 2016 macbook pro
And if he is wrong with the number of cores for example, he will come here and say, i told you it was a prototype excuse
So, again, with no real leaks from him, we have to wait until tomorrow
what bugs? what software? bugs related to what? if Apple want to release this new mac tomorrow will do it so with the current macOS Monterey, if its not, they will release it with the next big version.
Apple always released the devices even if the software had bugs...even after 1 year macOS has some issues/bugs...what are you even talking about?
Understand that what passes for "journalism" in Apple-land, often involves reading these forums, and reporting it as "sources-say". If you look to 9-5 Mac or whoever and see them saying the same things someone has posted here, it's likely not because of independent sourcing of information.
Remember the eGPU Display? That started as a "leak" by someone in the Accidental Tech Podcast live IRC channel, was relayed here in the forums, and then picked up as "independently sourced" throughout so much of the Apple-verse that Apple wheeled out their pet Rene Richie to publicly deny its existence *on* the record.
There's literally no downside to posting rumours - everything that's not perfectly accurate is ignored, and vaguely similar details are assumed to only be inaccurate by virtue of misunderstandings or deliberate obfuscation.
For me and my workflows Mx Macs are not ready, nor is Monterey. But still, I am excited about what is to come out of the mothership tomorrow. It could be a big disappointment, or finally something I can look forward to buy - some day, when the software for it is secured for my workflow too.
I have made my predictions earlier allready. Won't post them again. Instead, I took a picture of what could be the scale of the closure/case of the "Studio" or what eve is coming.
I put in some 30 cm rulers (32cm in total size with leftover ends) to the second axonometric pic to compare to.
a) 3x Mac Mini
b) Trashcan Pro aka tcMP (or preferably a "cylinder" or "tube" Mac Pro for some)
c) G4 Cube
d) Razor Core X eGPU (size in the ballparks of latest intel Canyon NUCs I think..)
I am in fear it won't have any "real" expansion in it. Only Apple certified things or modules, if any at all. And hidden fans / airflow would be my guess for them to do, aka the flawed chimney design put through once again.
For sure I would want to see the biggest version on the right with at least one PCIe + at least one M.2 in it. And the best Apple can fit in it thermal/processor wise. I take it that it's got Apple flash and soldered unified RAM as standard though. That's a must.
I have made my predictions earlier allready. Won't post them again. Instead, I took a picture of what could be the scale of the closure/case of the "Studio" or what eve is coming.
I put in some 30 cm rulers (32cm in total size with leftover ends) to the second axonometric pic to compare to.
a) 3x Mac Mini
b) Trashcan Pro aka tcMP (or preferably a "cylinder" or "tube" Mac Pro for some)
c) G4 Cube
d) Razor Core X eGPU (size in the ballparks of latest intel Canyon NUCs I think..)
I am in fear it won't have any "real" expansion in it. Only Apple certified things or modules, if any at all. And hidden fans / airflow would be my guess for them to do, aka the flawed chimney design put through once again.
For sure I would want to see the biggest version on the right with at least one PCIe + at least one M.2 in it. And the best Apple can fit in it thermal/processor wise. I take it that it's got Apple flash and soldered unified RAM as standard though. That's a must.
Thanks for the pics. I think we can look forward to something the same volume of the trash can MP, in G4 cube shape and dimensional ratios.
Expansion has to be M.2, or something novel that’s awesome; no way there’s full size PCIe. Maybe we could see a low latency multigigabit near-field interconnect. Or acoustic metamaterial active cooling for silent operation within a crazy thermal envelope.
All in the fullness of time.
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Looking at the G4 Cube, the transparent skirt is there for cable clearance, so it could go away...
That would actually leave a 7.7" cubed volume...!
I guess we will see what Luke Miani has to show us later today, and then see what the Event brings us...!
That would actually leave a 7.7" cubed volume...!
I guess we will see what Luke Miani has to show us later today, and then see what the Event brings us...!
Ok, now there are ppl who report same thing as my OP from last Thursday (Mac studio and 27 inch 5k display).
it can prove to your guys that my info is genuine.
so i will stop release my info on this threads, thank everyone.
PS. Meet your guys again if i've any detail on iMac 27/ iMac Pro!!
it can prove to your guys that my info is genuine.
so i will stop release my info on this threads, thank everyone.
PS. Meet your guys again if i've any detail on iMac 27/ iMac Pro!!
- It will be called Mac Studio
- Powered by M1 max 2x
- 20 CPU cores and 48 GPU cores
- Low-end mac display (but the prices not seem to be low) will be call Apple 5K display
- As i have seen only front of display, it closely resemble of what Apple Pro Display XDR look like.
- i've not seen the back and the side of display, so cannot tell anything about stand and back design. (is it sell separately etc)
-how is this geniune? we just saw the so called mac studio, but not official, just from a leaker that has been wrong before
-where we can see its powered by 2xM1 max on apple website?
-low end mac display called Apple 5k display...others says Studio Display, we will see tomorrow, so where i can find that is genuine since i can buy the thing or is not even presented by Apple
-So unfortunately you are not genuine until tomorrow, that leaker showed many times to be wrong.Or maybe you dont know the meaning of "genuine "
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Why are you so serious, if my post is seriously make your life so bad, i'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry about that. ???
I feel like the only reason they'd need a larger chassis is if there will be expansion. The guts of the existing m1 mac mini have showed us what's possible on such a tiny board, and the macbook pro has showed us how much performance they can push out of a laptop.
Also.. this mockup seems pretty ugly to me, and if there was any truth to it the ports would have been displayed in one of the renders.
Just my two cents.
Also.. this mockup seems pretty ugly to me, and if there was any truth to it the ports would have been displayed in one of the renders.
Just my two cents.
I don`t think we will see another Intel Mac Pro in the future. I know someone reported that Intel Xeon 33xx code was in Xcode, it makes sense for Apple to write macOS to be compatible with future Intel Xeons. If Apple Silicone cannot reach the performance of an Intel Xeon chip in 1-2 years, Apple can always just update the motherboard of the current Mac Pro design and refresh the Mac Pro lineup. But I doubt that, I am sure they will pour all their resources in optimizing macOS for their in house chip to get the best performance out of it rather than working on optimizing macOS for Intel chips/AMD GPUs.
This is what I think too. If the base model comes with an M1 Pro, I predict ~$1,399 but if it starts with an M1 Max then I predict $2,199
Entry price, US$3.5k - US$4k, and US$5k would be unsurprising. I'd be happy to be wrong, but I can't picture the whole computer being comparable in price to a high, but not top-end Nvidia RTX/gaming GPU.
Actually it was for "Xeon SP Ice Lake". It is the same die though, but it was probably easier to have some internal hackintosh on a Xeon SP Gen 3 board than get a W-3300 reference board a while back. (Intel is making more money on SPs variants than on W-3300 variants. The latter is still only shipping in limited volume due to the lower allocations of the available dies to that product line. )
However, time is about up on the MP 2019 being competitive in overall workstation market.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/a...ipper-pro-5000-wx-series-zen-3-up-to-64-cores
Throw on top the SP Gen 4 solutions Intel will probably ship before end of 2022 and the W-3200 looks stale.
Not having a competitive Workstation isn't going to help Apple over the next 1-2 years while some Mac Pro users file out to the exits. ( mainly Mac Pro 2009-2013 users who will be making upgrade decisions over the next 1-2 years).
The W6000 MPX modules and the off-the-shelf AMD RX6000 series cards are all 50% bandwidth hamstrung by the Mac Pro 2019 design. The Intel W-3300/3400 Threadripper 5000-7000 over the next two years will not be. That is ton of expensive money for those MPX to get 'half' the goods. Apple would have a very substantive value proposition problem for 1-2 years if they pull another Rip van Winkle and hide for 4-5 years at a time on the Mac Pro.
If Apple is waiting 1-2 years then probably won't do anything. They will herd the folks who didn't want max modularity for the subset of lower end Mac Pro users for which something like the "Studio" ( two Max-sized dies and lots of ProRes/H.265 focused codec work ) can handle for better pricing.
At the end of that the Mac Pro likely would be 'dead in the water'. I wouldn't expect Apple do much other than throw a bone of a system with just a 2-3 slots at the remaining hold outs.
"optimizing" by punting on certain workloads isn't going to keep the same user base the Mac Pro has had historically.
Sounds like an amazing machine. Because people here had contributed so many guesses/ideas, personally I didn't find much surprise.. except maybe the form factor. I believe some ppl even guessed the chip name right - M1 Ultra (sorry, not M1 Max Duo)
Performance numbers are about double of M1 Max - plain simple.. Perhaps when people drill down into details with hands-on, we may still see some interesting stuff with respect to inter-chip connectivity and how two M1 Max are presented as one to applications.
Seems no internal expansion and user replaceable parts.
