Nexus 4 - Official - JUST ANNOUNCED $299 off contract [Merged]

[Faux Carnival]

The reason Google didn't put LTE: There is currently no LTE card that supports all bands.

And Google wants ONLY one type of Nexus 4 leaving LG's production line. We'll definitely see LTE on next year's Nexus 4.

 

[Dave.UK]

It's 2012, LTE is soon to be the standard. And trust me, you won't realize what you're missing until you use LTE, it's the bomb.

Not in the UK. Wont be standard here until late 2013 and then prices wont be reasonable until 2014-2015.

 

[Dontazemebro]

Is it just me or does Google's vision of the new 4.2 lockscreen seem redundant?

Swipe to left to see widgets? How is that any better than just swiping to unlock your phone where your widgets are already displayed?

Seems like an unnecessary step. The notification pull down bar is enough, just make it accessible with pin lock.

 

[michaeljohn]

The reason Google didn't put LTE: There is currently no LTE card that supports all bands.

And Google wants ONLY one type of Nexus 4 leaving LG's production line. We'll definitely see LTE on next year's Nexus 4.

Starting to sound like iPhone users, just wait till next year!

That's a poor excuse when plenty of other phones come with HSPA and LTE capabilities. The real reason Google didn't do it is because LTE radios would have cost more money and they couldn't sell it for only $299. So once again Google has chose to ignore the many millions of user on CDMA carriers. This is why the Nexus branded phones will never be a success. google cant figure out how to make them work for everyone.

 

[spinedoc77]

LTE I can live without, but lack of a microSD is inexcusable IMO. I was all set to pick up this as my primary phone, but I just can't do it without removable memory. The cloud stuff is all well and fine until the first time you find yourself without a network signal.

 

[3bs]

LTE I can live without, but lack of a microSD is inexcusable IMO. I was all set to pick up this as my primary phone, but I just can't do it without removable memory. The cloud stuff is all well and fine until the first time you find yourself without a network signal.

It might have been more appealing had they offered free storage like HTC and Samsung do. I now have 55GB on Dropbox because I got the Galaxy S3 which gave me 50GB. Still, I understand where you're coming from and 16GB is too little for a lot of people these days. I'm still getting the Nexus 4 but I guess I'll have to wait and see how much of a struggle it'll be.

One good thing about the Nexus 4 is Android File Transfer will probably work with it

 

[flopticalcube]

LTE I can live without, but lack of a microSD is inexcusable IMO. I was all set to pick up this as my primary phone, but I just can't do it without removable memory. The cloud stuff is all well and fine until the first time you find yourself without a network signal.

Yeah, that was a bummer for me too. I will rely on the cloud and USB OTG but a uSD would have been great even if the internal was capped at 8GB.

 

[3bs]

Yeah, that was a bummer for me too. I will rely on the cloud and USB OTG but a uSD would have been great even if the internal was capped at 8GB.

How useful is USB OTG though? If you want all your music locally then how is it useful? It'll be too cumbersome having to plug something in every time you want to listen to your songs. If you have want to put movies or big videos on your phone it's also the same. I don't see how this will be useful for phones, tablets maybe. The only time I see myself using USB OTG on my future N4 is when I want to transfer things.

 

[flopticalcube]

How useful is USB OTG though? If you want all your music locally then how is it useful? It'll be too cumbersome having to plug something in every time you want to listen to your songs. If you have want to put movies or big videos on your phone it's also the same. I don't see how this will be useful for phones, tablets maybe. The only time I see myself using USB OTG on my future N4 is when I want to transfer things.

It would only be useful for trips and times when I can't get a decent connection like on a plane. Not an ideal solution but there isn't much choice here atm.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Tmobile will have Nexus 4's on November 14th. Units are already arriving at some stores. Going to stroll over midday and play with one. Hopefully I'll be able to spend enough time with one to get a good feel for it. I'm looking forward to it.

 

[Vegastouch]

Starting to sound like iPhone users, just wait till next year!

That's a poor excuse when plenty of other phones come with HSPA and LTE capabilities. The real reason Google didn't do it is because LTE radios would have cost more money and they couldn't sell it for only $299. So once again Google has chose to ignore the many millions of user on CDMA carriers. This is why the Nexus branded phones will never be a success. google cant figure out how to make them work for everyone.

Most of the world is on a GSM carrier. Most of the world is a lot bigger than
only Verizon and Sprint being the only notable CDMA carriers here in the USA. Metro PCS and Cricket also use CDMA but they are too small to worry about(does anyone even use Cricket) and MetroPCS are being bought out by T-Mobile anyways...who uses GSM.

GSM is better and gives you more freedom over your phone. You people on CDMA just cant get a phone and stick a SIM card in it and go. With a GSM we can take a iPhone for instance over to T-Mobile , put out card in it and its a go. You may have to have permission from your CDMA carrier to do that....which is the USA way....those carriers will tell you what you can use. And we dont have to call them everytime we switch out a phone. It just works

 

[Oletros]

This is why the Nexus branded phones will never be a success. google cant figure out how to make them work for everyone.

Perhaps they are making work for people that knows that there is a huge world outside of your CDMA networks.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Most of the world is on a GSM carrier. Most of the world is a lot bigger than
only Verizon and Sprint being the only notable CDMA carriers here in the USA. Metro PCS and Cricket also use CDMA but they are too small to worry about(does anyone even use Cricket) and MetroPCS are being bought out by T-Mobile anyways...who uses GSM.

GSM is better and gives you more freedom over your phone. You people on CDMA just cant get a phone and stick a SIM card in it and go. With a GSM we can take a iPhone for instance over to T-Mobile , put out card in it and its a go. You may have to have permission from your CDMA carrier to do that....which is the USA way....those carriers will tell you what you can use. And we dont have to call them everytime we switch out a phone. It just works

Perhaps they are making work for people that knows that there is a huge world outside of your CDMA networks.

You're wasting your time with michaeljohn. He has said himself he only cares about his world and will only make judgments based within that narrow margin. Anything outside of that is irrelevant to him, yet he'll still judge everything based on his narrow standard just so he can troll/ask the question "why can't they fit it?" Really no point in answering him.

 

[michaeljohn]

Most of the world is on a GSM carrier. Most of the world is a lot bigger than
only Verizon and Sprint being the only notable CDMA carriers here in the USA. Metro PCS and Cricket also use CDMA but they are too small to worry about(does anyone even use Cricket) and MetroPCS are being bought out by T-Mobile anyways...who uses GSM.

GSM is better and gives you more freedom over your phone. You people on CDMA just cant get a phone and stick a SIM card in it and go. With a GSM we can take a iPhone for instance over to T-Mobile , put out card in it and its a go. You may have to have permission from your CDMA carrier to do that....which is the USA way....those carriers will tell you what you can use. And we dont have to call them everytime we switch out a phone. It just works

Verizon has SIM cards for their high end phones now. I have had all 4 major carriers and Verizon is by far the best, at least out here. GSM is nowhere near better. HSPA+ is slow compared to LTE. It tops out at what? 42Mbps? Verizons LTE is good up to 100Mbps. I would average about 8-10Mbps on AT&T and 6-8Mbps on T-Mobile. I average 27-30Mbps with Verizons LTE, no comparison. Also, voice calls on the GSM networks are awful here. My roommate has a 4s on AT&T and he only has one bar in the house while I have full bars on my 5 with Verizon. Same around town. I get much better signal and my calls sound better and more clear.

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You're wasting your time with michaeljohn. He has said himself he only cares about his world and will only make judgments based within that narrow margin.

That doesnt make sense? Why would I give 2 craps about how a network I am not on performs in a state I dont live in much less a country I will never go to? Do you care about how the network you are with performs thousands of miles away? Why should you? It has zero impact on you and your device.

 

[Oletros]

That doesnt make sense? Why would I give 2 craps about how a network I am not on performs in a state I dont live in much less a country I will never go to? Do you care about how the network you are with performs thousands of miles away? Why should you? It has zero impact on you and your device.

The problem is that you think that only exists your little world and the world is a little bigger that your ego.


But he is right, it is a waste of time reading your constant trolling.

By the way, still waiting those many developers that have abandoned Android because it is doomed

 

[spinedoc77]

Yeah, that was a bummer for me too. I will rely on the cloud and USB OTG but a uSD would have been great even if the internal was capped at 8GB.

Conversely $349 for the 16gb one and I don't have to sign a contract with ATT is really really appealing. This is a tough decision. I picked up a Note 2, but ended up returning it, was just too big and I really really like being out of contract as well, but I absolutely loved Android 4.2 on it.

Gahhhh, I think if they did a 32gb for $349 I'd feel better about not having removable storage. My 4s is 32gb and that's about right. Music isn't even the issue as I stream most of my music, it's pictures and videos, although I do use Skydrive and Dropbox to upload most of my stuff.

Well worst case scenario I buy a Nexus phone every year for $349 and still stay contract free, and sell the old one on craigslist. Yeah I might go for the 4 after all.

 

[onthecouchagain]

That doesnt make sense? Why would I give 2 craps about how a network I am not on performs in a state I dont live in much less a country I will never go to? Do you care about how the network you are with performs thousands of miles away? Why should you? It has zero impact on you and your device.

Right, so you know Verizon's lineup, and you've made up your mind Verizon's Android offerings cannot satisfy your needs. The iPhone sounds like the perfect fit for you. I have yet to see you express any remorse going with the iPhone. It begs the question, why are you in the Alternative forums if you're not considering alternatives to your standards?

Unless of course, you're here to troll? You paint a very narrow standard, argue that it's the only one that matters and that you won't compromise any of it (all fair), yet will judge other products not meant to be part of that standard, only to ask the question "why isn't it matching my standard?" You also hate carriers but will berate the Nexus program who is attempting to go above carriers. I have no hard feelings against you, mate, but it's very hard to draw any other conclusion than you're here in the alternatives to troll.

I'll leave it at that.


EDIT: Weren't you the one demanding speedtests too of the Nexus 4? Hm, so speedtests that are done from reviewers from different areas that have no effect on where you are matter, but when people point out how well the Nexus 4 can work elsewhere, then what's the point! Great consistency.

 

[Vegastouch]

Verizon has SIM cards for their high end phones now. I have had all 4 major carriers and Verizon is by far the best, at least out here. GSM is nowhere near better. HSPA+ is slow compared to LTE. It tops out at what? 42Mbps? Verizons LTE is good up to 100Mbps. I would average about 8-10Mbps on AT&T and 6-8Mbps on T-Mobile. I average 27-30Mbps with Verizons LTE, no comparison.

AGAIN, i will point out that MOST of the WORLD is on a GSM network. Verizon is very small percenatage of the world so all this is irrellevant. LTE isnt really anywhere else except for here and it is only on a couple networks so your plea means nothing. Google isnt trying to accommodate just one or two networks in the US, it is tryng to accommodate the WORLD.

Also, voice calls on the GSM networks are awful here. My roommate has a 4s on AT&T and he only has one bar in the house while I have full bars on my 5 with Verizon. Same around town. I get much better signal and my calls sound better and more clear.

Verizon is the most expensive as well. They do voice very well and ill give them that, but the rest of them is just average...for alot of money and they dont have great customer service. Rather A holish if you ask me.
Sorry man, seems you DO care about yourself when Goggle cares about the world.

I suggest you keep what you got and forget about a Nexus 4. Personally, ill never go to Verizon.

 

[Tinmania]

Well as an iPhone owner since day-one in 2007 I am about ready to get a 16GB Nexus 4 as soon as I can get one. Never have using a Nexus anything before I stopped by a cell store and played with a Nexus 1. I was rather impressed with that and if the reviews are correct that the 4 is a lot better I'm sold.

I held off on iPhone 5 and still feel no compelling reason to get it over my 4S. But after playing with Nexus 1 the iPhone 5 felt less compelling.

And to get i5 and then be saddled with another 2 year commitment to AT&T? Starting to see little logic in doing that when for $350 can do whatever the heck I want. I can even sell my 32gb 4S and have change left over. But instead I'd likely keep both for at least a little while.

I know this is anecdotal but for someone like me, several macs, ATVs, iPad, etc. that says a lot. Just not wowed lately by the iPhone.



Michael

 

[onthecouchagain]

Well as an iPhone owner since day-one in 2007 I am about ready to get a 16GB Nexus 4 as soon as I can get one. Never have using a Nexus anything before I stopped by a cell store and played with a Nexus 1. I was rather impressed with that and if the reviews are correct that the 4 is a lot better I'm sold.

I held off on iPhone 5 and still feel no compelling reason to get it over my 4S. But after playing with Nexus 1 the iPhone 5 felt less compelling.

And to get i5 and then be saddled with another 2 year commitment to AT&T? Starting to see little logic in doing that when for $350 can do whatever the heck I want. I can even sell my 32gb 4S and have change left over. But instead I'd likely keep both for at least a little while.

I know this is anecdotal but for someone like me, several macs, ATVs, iPad, etc. that says a lot. Just not wowed lately by the iPhone.



Michael

I think you mean the Nexus 4 ?

Rock on. Post impressions, good or bad, when you get it. =]

 

[3bs]

Conversely $349 for the 16gb one and I don't have to sign a contract with ATT is really really appealing. This is a tough decision. I picked up a Note 2, but ended up returning it, was just too big and I really really like being out of contract as well, but I absolutely loved Android 4.2 on it.

Gahhhh, I think if they did a 32gb for $349 I'd feel better about not having removable storage. My 4s is 32gb and that's about right. Music isn't even the issue as I stream most of my music, it's pictures and videos, although I do use Skydrive and Dropbox to upload most of my stuff.

Well worst case scenario I buy a Nexus phone every year for $349 and still stay contract free, and sell the old one on craigslist. Yeah I might go for the 4 after all.

4.2 isn't out yet is it? Did you mean 4.1?

 

[spinedoc77]

4.2 isn't out yet is it? Did you mean 4.1?

Hmm I thought the Note 2 had 4.2, although I can't say I checked it. It had the newer keyboard where you slide thru letters. If it's not out yet then yeah I must have been mistaken then.

 

[3bs]

Hmm I thought the Note 2 had 4.2, although I can't say I checked it. It had the newer keyboard where you slide thru letters. If it's not out yet then yeah I must have been mistaken then.

That's available on 4.1.1 too which my friend is running on his international Note 2.

 

[michaeljohn]

Right, so you know Verizon's lineup, and you've made up your mind Verizon's Android offerings cannot satisfy your needs. The iPhone sounds like the perfect fit for you. I have yet to see you express any remorse going with the iPhone. It begs the question, why are you in the Alternative forums if you're not considering alternatives to your standards?

Unless of course, you're here to troll? You paint a very narrow standard, argue that it's the only one that matters and that you won't compromise any of it (all fair), yet will judge other products not meant to be part of that standard, only to ask the question "why isn't it matching my standard?" You also hate carriers but will berate the Nexus program who is attempting to go above carriers. I have no hard feelings against you, mate, but it's very hard to draw any other conclusion than you're here in the alternatives to troll.

I'll leave it at that.


EDIT: Weren't you the one demanding speedtests too of the Nexus 4? Hm, so speedtests that are done from reviewers from different areas that have no effect on where you are matter, but when people point out how well the Nexus 4 can work elsewhere, then what's the point! Great consistency. Obvious troll is becoming obvious.

I am in here because I am still an Android fan and I was interested in the Note 2. Now it's looking more like the Droid DNA might be a winner for my needs. I don't really have "remorse" as far as getting an iPhone 5 as its a great phone. I do miss a larger screen and some of the ways you have to do simple things like add a ringtone or delete a photo out of the camera roll but not another folder are a bit of a PITA but its doable oh and you might want to read the rules buddy. Calling people trolls is against the rules here, reported.

 

[strausd]

Well as an iPhone owner since day-one in 2007 I am about ready to get a 16GB Nexus 4 as soon as I can get one. Never have using a Nexus anything before I stopped by a cell store and played with a Nexus 1. I was rather impressed with that and if the reviews are correct that the 4 is a lot better I'm sold.

I held off on iPhone 5 and still feel no compelling reason to get it over my 4S. But after playing with Nexus 1 the iPhone 5 felt less compelling.

And to get i5 and then be saddled with another 2 year commitment to AT&T? Starting to see little logic in doing that when for $350 can do whatever the heck I want. I can even sell my 32gb 4S and have change left over. But instead I'd likely keep both for at least a little while.

I know this is anecdotal but for someone like me, several macs, ATVs, iPad, etc. that says a lot. Just not wowed lately by the iPhone.



Michael

I'm kind of in the same boat. Although I've never had a lot of time to play around with an android phone, but I have watched a lot of videos showing off jelly bean and it was very impressive.

I remember when I got my 4S I wasn't all that impressed. My older 3GS could do just about everything the 4S could. So really not much excitement there. Even less excitement for the iPhone 5. But I am very excited for the Nexus 4.