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MRU

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Will Google continue to sell first gen Pixels, and how much will they be discounted, I wonder.
Well they stopped selling Nexus devices when pixel launched even to countries where the pixel didn't launch they pulled the Nexus being sold, so I would guess they won't continue selling the current pixel at all.
 

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The Pixel and Pixel XL have always had very iffy issues with Bluetooth, I think Oreo simply confirms that the issue is not software but clearly hardware as two operating systems, one of which had numerous updates and were still at square one with Bluetooth issues.

It isn't just Pixel owners, though. Nexus owners are also experiencing issues. Heck, I went a whole week without issues and then the final build somehow caused new ones to show up.
 

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It isn't just Pixel owners, though. Nexus owners are also experiencing issues. Heck, I went a whole week without issues and then the final build somehow caused new ones to show up.

Yeah but Bluetooth has always been patchy at best. At no point has it been flawless - at least on my Pixel and I've had 3 different SKU's all of which exhibited the same Bluetooth issues.
 

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Yeah but Bluetooth has always been patchy at best. At no point has it been flawless - at least on my Pixel and I've had 3 different SKU's all of which exhibited the same Bluetooth issues.

Yeah. I still think there's just something wrong with BT in AOSP. I mean, Samsung seems to be getting it right.
 
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Michael Goff

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Possibly, though anectodatly I never had BT issues on the Nexus 6 or Nexus 6P ...

Just hope they have it all sorted for Pixel 2.

Weirdly, th 6P is one of the phones supposedly having issues with O and Bluetooth. So they broke it when they supposedly fixed it.
 
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MRU

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Well, it was back in Marshmallow days when I got rid of my otherwise awesome 6P due to Bluetooth issues.

Yeah it's possible I wasn't using Bluetooth headphones with that device as often so never noticed. I didn't have my blaze watch syncing via Bluetooth then either, so again I likely just never noticed the Bluetooth issue.
 

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Just think I found a way to fix my battery life woes. I turned off double tap and lift to check. Battery use per hour (in pocket) moved from about 9%per hour to between 4 and 5.

Edit: Listening to podcasts, not just sitting there.
 
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I'm still waiting for Oreo on my Pixel. Waiting for OTA. Has anyone successfully updated over the air here?

Also my two pence on Bluetooth.. I use my phone to stream Apple music and take phone calls through my car and I have to agree with the previous comments. The Pixel although did the job I always felt the experience could be smoother.. hardware I suspect!
 
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Yeah it's possible I wasn't using Bluetooth headphones with that device as often so never noticed. I didn't have my blaze watch syncing via Bluetooth then either, so again I likely just never noticed the Bluetooth issue.

It was a smallish but hugely annoying issue. The sound would cut off for a second every minute or so. With podcasts it was annoying but not quite a dealbreaker, but when I listened to music it was maddening. Many others seemed to have the same issue, so it wasn't just my device.
 
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MRU

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It was a smallish but hugely annoying issue. The sound would cut off for a second every minute or so. With podcasts it was annoying but not quite a dealbreaker, but when I listened to music it was maddening. Many others seemed to have the same issue, so it wasn't just my device.
Well that's my exact problem with the pixel described to a tee.
 
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MRU

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I'm still waiting for Oreo on my Pixel. Waiting for OTA. Has anyone successfully updated over the air here?

Also my two pence on Bluetooth.. I use my phone to stream Apple music and take phone calls through my car and I have to agree with the previous comments. The Pixel although did the job I always felt the experience could be smoother.. hardware I suspect!
I personally at this stage suspect hardware too given we have had several supposed 'fix' updates. Heck they even tried to blame it on a server side issue with Google Play Music at one stage which ignores the fact the issues were still there even if you were not using GPM to playback the audio.

Whatever is the cause, I'll be very miffed if the Pixel 2 & 2 XL have similar BT issues that remain unresolved in its lifetime.
 

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Well that's my exact problem with the pixel described to a tee.

Ouch, so it still hasn't been sorted out. Seems like it could be something deep in the Android BT stack and it triggers in certain conditions. For after all, I haven't had that in my other Android phones.
 

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So I used the Beta method to force update to Oreo.
Maybe initial impressions but I don't find Oreo as smooth as Nougat.. app loading especially feels slower!
That's a real shame.. hopefully things improve!
 

Michael Goff

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So I used the Beta method to force update to Oreo.
Maybe initial impressions but I don't find Oreo as smooth as Nougat.. app loading especially feels slower!
That's a real shame.. hopefully things improve!

Agreed. At this point, I'm seeing little to no difference between my Pixel XL and Galaxy S8 Plus (aside from the GS8+ sometimes being faster).
 

kkh786

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So some feedback after three days on Oreo on my Pixel.. thankfully I'm back to the pre-Oreo level of buttery smoothness after the initial hiccups (this is without a factory reset!)
Panic over.. thanks Google!
 
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