Personally I ditched Nike+ for Runkeeper Pro www.runkeeper.com which comes in free and paid for versions. RK Pro (paid version) gives you far more than Nike+ and well worth the money for it.
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No, it does not work in place. Why would you want to? Most Elliptical machines already tell you your distance, pace, etc...
Runkeeper Pro looks really cool. I think it's better and more accurate to be tied to GPS rather then a sensor.
I have a few questions about both:
-With the Nike+ can you "FEEL" the sensor in your shoes when you run? I hate that feeling when even a little piece of grass or something gets inside my shoe.
-With the RunkeeperPro, can you control your ipod from it? I would hate to have to exit the app just to change songs. Does it do anything to synchronize to the music?
-I take it Runkeeper Pro does not work from the lock screen like Nike +?
No, if you use a Nike+ shoe the sensor slides into a grove under the inner padding of the shoe.
Advantage over GPS based apps?
So what are the real advantages of the Nike+ system over one of the free GPS based apps to justify the cost? I already have the paid version of Motion X for hiking and whatnot, so what would the Nike+ bring to me in way of new features and/or usability?
So what are the real advantages of the Nike+ system over one of the free GPS based apps to justify the cost? I already have the paid version of Motion X for hiking and whatnot, so what would the Nike+ bring to me in way of new features and/or usability?
I just read through the entire thread to ask this question and then see you asked it right at the end!!!
I use MapMyRide on my iPhone. I can tell it I'm doing runs too. My GF just got a Nano and Nike+ and it looks pretty cool, but what additional features can it give me?
On another note... Anyone using a GPS running app have one that announces miles or time over the headphones as you run?
RunKeeper Pro gives you an update by tapping the screen any time you want, and also at set intervals of your choice.
Personally, GPS RunKeeper Pro rocks. Few months, and we'll have HR monitors, and be good to go. Nike has been and still is being hammered hard by users giving feedback to improve their system. Whilst they'e seemingly dragging their feet on this, it'll improve soon enough. It's a boondoggle for Nike.
the nike+ sensor is not accurate enough, IMO. It tends to pull your pace towards whatever you calibrated it at. So if you calibrated at 7 min/mile and run a 6:30, it'll report it as 6:40 or something. If you run a 7:30, it'll report it as 7:20. The amount to which it's off isn't that exact, but the point is it gets more inaccurate the farther you are away from the calibrated pace. I used it for over 2 years before giving up on it because of this (and because there's no way to do laps on either an ipod or the nike sportband).
As for GPS, yeah that's great if you want to run with an iphone. Personally, I won't run with anything bigger than a nano, and even that's pushing it (currently have a 2G shuffle).
As for GPS, yeah that's great if you want to run with an iphone. Personally, I won't run with anything bigger than a nano, and even that's pushing it (currently have a 2G shuffle).
Can't speak for any of the alternatives, but I think Nike + is great.
- My phone can stay in my pocket all through my run, and I can use the in-line headphone control to pause and start the run (and the music) and change tracks etc.
- I can get an update on current time / distance and pace by pressing the home button, which is easy enough to find without having to take the phone out.
- I can answer calls mid run (my dentist rang me up during a half marathon!!)
I may be wrong, but no other App can do any of the above, as Nike+ is the only one integrated into iPhone OS.
The Nike+ website also gives enough variation in challenges, goals (500 miles in 2010!), Personal Best times etc. and I don't find the accuracy on distance bad at all - It's not spot on, but if you regularly run the same route, you know how far it is anyway. When I've run official races, it's never been more than 0.2 miles out for a Half Marathon distance.
It also doesn't drain the battery like a nutter as I suspect any GPS using apps would.
Hope this helps.
- My phone can stay in my pocket all through my run, and I can use the in-line headphone control to pause and start the run (and the music) and change tracks etc.
- I can get an update on current time / distance and pace by pressing the home button, which is easy enough to find without having to take the phone out.
- I can answer calls mid run (my dentist rang me up during a half marathon!!)
I may be wrong, but no other App can do any of the above, as Nike+ is the only one integrated into iPhone OS.
The Nike+ website also gives enough variation in challenges, goals (500 miles in 2010!), Personal Best times etc. and I don't find the accuracy on distance bad at all - It's not spot on, but if you regularly run the same route, you know how far it is anyway. When I've run official races, it's never been more than 0.2 miles out for a Half Marathon distance.
It also doesn't drain the battery like a nutter as I suspect any GPS using apps would.
Hope this helps.
+2 Run Keeper Pro! I love logging onto my account when I get home and browsing through all my past runs, mapped out and everything!
I LOVE RUNKEEPER!
I LOVE RUNKEEPER!
I use both Runkeeper Pro and Nike+. I've learned that Runkeeper Pro is very inaccurate in certain situations. When I'm just running in my neighborhood because I don't have time or want to drive somewhere, I loop up and down the streets (4 loops = ~5 miles). Runkeeper Pro is very inaccurate when tracking me this way. It usually cuts corners short so it goes very much under the actual distance I run. This also happens at a nearby park with a running trail that tends to have doubling back curves in it. The trail is marked at 1 mile around, but Runkeeper Pro tends to mark me at .8 or even .7 of a mile after I've completed a full loop. This is not caused by GPS signal problem, either, because I always have an excellent signal at both locations. However, the Nike+ is much closer to the right distances in both places. So, I use the Nike+ in runs on a path that involves doubling back and such.
Where Runkeeper Pro does work well is on a street run where you're not going around lots of corners and such. I ran a 5k on 12/31, and it did just fine then. It also works fine at a park where I run a 5 mile loop that circles the majority of the park.
So, both run tracking tools work for me depending on the type of run I'm doing.
Where Runkeeper Pro does work well is on a street run where you're not going around lots of corners and such. I ran a 5k on 12/31, and it did just fine then. It also works fine at a park where I run a 5 mile loop that circles the majority of the park.
So, both run tracking tools work for me depending on the type of run I'm doing.
I've done reviews of a number of these apps including Nike +, Motion X and Run Keeper.
I liked Run Keeper but it was the least accurate. On 4 different days, a 2-mile walk was recorded as half a mile, 4 miles, 16 miles and 1 mile.
Nike + is solid. I used it with a sensor in a pouch made for it that goes on the shoe laces. It was more accurate than Run Keeper but still varied.
My preference was/is Motion X. It's much more accurate (I've marked the test mileage with my car's odometer, Google Maps and 2 GPS devices), has the most features and is still easy to work with.
I liked Run Keeper but it was the least accurate. On 4 different days, a 2-mile walk was recorded as half a mile, 4 miles, 16 miles and 1 mile.
Nike + is solid. I used it with a sensor in a pouch made for it that goes on the shoe laces. It was more accurate than Run Keeper but still varied.
My preference was/is Motion X. It's much more accurate (I've marked the test mileage with my car's odometer, Google Maps and 2 GPS devices), has the most features and is still easy to work with.
Can you confirm this...are the results accurate in comparison to the readings put out by the treadmill? I'm thinking about getting a Nike sports band but I do a lot of my running on the treadmill and I'm not sure how much that effects the results.
This may sound like a stupid question, but what's the nike+ like with walking and cycling?
I'm not a runner, but i do alot of walking, tend to go for long random walks, plus i work abroad so don't really want to rely on a gps based app that needs to stream data etc?
I assume the main inaccuracy with running with the nike is varying speeds, whereas walking i guess is pretty consistant?
Gonna go check eBay for a cheap sensor anyway, lol
I'm not a runner, but i do alot of walking, tend to go for long random walks, plus i work abroad so don't really want to rely on a gps based app that needs to stream data etc?
I assume the main inaccuracy with running with the nike is varying speeds, whereas walking i guess is pretty consistant?
Gonna go check eBay for a cheap sensor anyway, lol
I don't think Nike+ handles cycling well, but I could be wrong. It should be fine with walking as its just really a glorified pedometer.
Eliptical
Only works on elliptical if your gym has the new cardio theater attachment to the machine with a Nike plus iPod hookup. I worked out while in new York city and the 24 hour fitness Derek jetter in manhattan has it. You don't even need the sensor in your shoe it reads directly from the machine to track your workout! All 24 hour fitnessed will eventually have this as they update their equipment.
Only works on elliptical if your gym has the new cardio theater attachment to the machine with a Nike plus iPod hookup. I worked out while in new York city and the 24 hour fitness Derek jetter in manhattan has it. You don't even need the sensor in your shoe it reads directly from the machine to track your workout! All 24 hour fitnessed will eventually have this as they update their equipment.