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Well actually my drives are on the compatibility list on the website.
So I guess I must have been clever last year and check that out before I ordered them.

Thanks for giving me an unsettling feeling the entire day about the security of my raid :rolleyes:
 
B&H Photo is an excellent place to order from. They are very professional and don't screw around. They also always have some of the best prices, and often throw in a bit extra to an order. Especially the Mac orders.
The broadcast facility I work for buys most of our gear through them, simply because they ship right away when it is in stock and they don't screw around with crappy shipping like some companies (Amazon, Newegg etc often use "smartpost" where the local delivery is by USPS).
 
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The "49'er gold rush" to the Promise T2 solutions is questionable. There is probably going to be a limited window where it is the only shipped TB v2 solution. "Only" is different from "VERY GOOD".

True, but "Only" doesn't mean it isn't "Very Good" either.
 
True, but "Only" doesn't mean it isn't "Very Good" either.

Correct. And there are others close on its heels. OWC has a PCIe external TB 2 chassis soon to be released, ready for PCIe SSD's. And LaCie has announced at CES 14 (no price or shipping date yet) a PCIe 512 TB 2 aluminum box.
 
The root cause of the failure here the mismatch between the enclosure vendor's design expectation and the customer sticking in drives not on the certified(or designed for) list.

Fantastic post, all of it. Exactly what I would have said, except stated more clearly than I would have managed.
 
The flawed presumption is that all hardware RAID recovery algorithms are aggressive and/or can't be parameterized. If Drobo is being shipped with those drives then most likely Drobo has adapted to the slower error recovery mode of the more mainstream drives they (and except their customers to put) into their systems.

The higher end hardware RAID vendors don't. They expect and have optimized to different set of drives with different characteristics. The root cause of the failure here the mismatch between the enclosure vendor's design expectation and the customer sticking in drives not on the certified(or designed for) list.

The core issue is how many time the drive will try internally to correct for an error. Most mainstream drives are used where there is no alternative source for the data ( other than perhaps a slow back-up). They will try multiple times to work around a read/write error before giving up. Enterprie drive in RAID mirror/parity context the alternative version of the data is somewhere else. So if those drives quickly punt, the RAID controller can just quickly look somewhere else and come back to this drive to see if it continues to have problems. If the drive doesn't respond quickly it will assume the entire drive is bad and basically kick it out.

If in a parity/mirror set up can probably survive one drive being prematurely kicked out but if kick out two then the whole RAID set goes bad ( or at least dark ).

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For RAID yes ( depending upon workload needs). For JBOD (or software RAID 0/1/10 layered on top ) not so much. In the second case there are $/performance issues. It works, but probably paying paying alot more than have to.

The "49'er gold rush" to the Promise T2 solutions is questionable. There is probably going to be a limited window where it is the only shipped TB v2 solution. "Only" is different from "VERY GOOD".

Excellent post - I was going to reply to the various people who replied to my "use RAID edition drives" post, but you've covered it completely.
 
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