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Congrats! When I got up this morning, I was thinking of starting a thread on this exact topic. I cannot wait for the MacPro to hit the shelves. I've set aside a budget for the tax year. However, if it doesn't ship prior to, then I'll use that money to purchase external TB hard drives.

My old MacPro must know it's on its way. Every week that passes, it seems to get a little bit slower.

On a pseudo-related note. I'm surprised this thread has made it this far without a single negative remark - shocking! I'm accustomed to seeing an immediate comment which typicaly blames the President, christians, conservatives, slave labor, global warming, marketing, luddites, trekkies, etc.

Surely its our own fault, though marketing is always fun to poke at....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo

:D
 
I find that the way Apple deals with this is straight up stupid...i get that they want to create a hype around the release but seriously...at least give people the prices of the 8 and 12 core configurations, whats with all the secrecy?

what secrecy? Intel's prices on those two CPU is a known quantity. Apple typically slaps about a 30% markup on stuff they sell.

E5 1620 v2 ~$300
E5 1680 v2 $1723 ( 8 core )
E5 2697 v2 $2614 ( 12 core )


marked up BTO CPU - swapped out CPU

So 8 core ==> + ~ $1940
12 core ==> + ~ $3100


Budget along those lines and there are likely no surprises. You have to actually put effort in to looking up the component prices and doing the elementary school math ...... but there is no "cone of silence" secrecy here.
 
Seriously, how long do you have to be in production before you start selling these suckers?
 
Seriously, how long do you have to be in production before you start selling these suckers?

You are presuming that the components have been in volume supply for an extended period of time.

MBPs could have been soaking up the entire supply of TB v2 controllers for most of Sept-Nov timeframe. Intel doesn't project full volume quantities till 2014.

For a factory that maxes out at around 5k units per month, the ramp time would likely be at least 4-6 weeks.
 
It all depends on Intel. So if Intel delays the chips, nMP's will be delayed. If Intel delivers tomorrow you'd bet that Apple opens up orders tomorrow. They want to sell this thing before the new years due to tax breaks obviously.

Chips are out bro. You can start parroting a new line of reasoning.
 
Yep, December it's here and hopefully very soon we can see on the Apple Store the possible configurations and prices for all option on the nMP.
Not holding my breath but the prices probably will be insane high.

4k displays would be nice too. We all can dream.....
 
It's interesting both 24 and 32 have mini display port. You can just plug them into the thunderbolt port. When did mini display ports became popular with PC?
 
It's interesting both 24 and 32 have mini display port. You can just plug them into the thunderbolt port. When did mini display ports became popular with PC?

I think it's down to Display Port being one of the few adaptors that'll allow for over 30Hz on 4K displays.
 
As we speak they are being assembled in the Southern USA. Apple failed to account for the fact that pulling someone from a $8.00/hr Dairy Queen job to a $10.00/hr nMP assembly line job may require a little intense training. =)

They may be delayed a few months....
 

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As we speak they are being assembled in the Southern USA. Apple failed to account for the fact that pulling someone from a $8.00/hr Dairy Queen job to a $10.00/hr nMP assembly line job may require a little intense training. =)

They may be delayed a few months....

I doubt the wealthiest company in the world forgot anything, let alone something as basic as staff training.
 
Chips are out bro. You can start parroting a new line of reasoning.

Really? Then why are the other workstations using the same chips also "on order" and not in stock? Maybe do your homework next time. They are not out in large volumes yet. The 8 core isn't to be found anywhere atm.
 
As we speak they are being assembled in the Southern USA. Apple failed to account for the fact that pulling someone from a $8.00/hr Dairy Queen job to a $10.00/hr nMP assembly line job may require a little intense training. =)

They may be delayed a few months....

I know. I can't think of any major computer company, especially one whose name begins with "D", and ends with "ell", who'd ever possibly locate themselves in Texas. They'd be stuck with Dairy Queen workers. That would be just craaaazy.

And it's not like Apple already had workers in Texas for years. Nope. That would be crazy too.
 
I think it's down to Display Port being one of the few adaptors that'll allow for over 30Hz on 4K displays.

It's also included a standard Display port too. I just have not seen any PC with the mini port or graphics card (other than Apple's)
 
I imagine if you're in the states you should at least be able to get a base model this year, as it's built there and you'd think they would've started stockpiling units already. If you customise though (especially CPU), I imagine this will knock things back a fair bit. I'm preparing myself mentally to not expect this machine here in Australia until the new year.
 
It's also included a standard Display port too. I just have not seen any PC with the mini port or graphics card (other than Apple's)

Plenty of AMD's cards come with it really. It's NVIDIA that usually uses normal display port vs mini.

Although it does depend on the manufacture sometimes.

These new monitors will be awesome on the nMP at any rate. :)
 
what secrecy? Intel's prices on those two CPU is a known quantity. Apple typically slaps about a 30% markup on stuff they sell.

E5 1620 v2 ~$300
E5 1680 v2 $1723 ( 8 core )
E5 2697 v2 $2614 ( 12 core )


marked up BTO CPU - swapped out CPU

So 8 core ==> + ~ $1940
12 core ==> + ~ $3100


Budget along those lines and there are likely no surprises. You have to actually put effort in to looking up the component prices and doing the elementary school math ...... but there is no "cone of silence" secrecy here.

however you put it, all your calculations are speculation, you can't possibly know how apple is going to price its stuff, regardless of the typical 30% markup apple usually applies...not saying your wrong, not saying your wright...
 
however you put it, all your calculations are speculation, you can't possibly know how apple is going to price its stuff, regardless of the typical 30% markup apple usually applies...not saying your wrong, not saying your wright...

The only speculative part here is that Apple will not change what they ALREADY doing. The 30% mark up is modeled on how Apple prices the other CPU changes in the Mac line up now (and for last couple of years). You can go to new iMacs , MBP , etc and it is highly accurate given variances on how Apple "rounds" prices to their notions of what "good looking numbers" should be ( e.g., prices end in ...99 so have to add $100 or $1000 ). However off by $50 and off by $500 is significant difference. Can't know the exact price down to the last penny so immobilized into inaction is nonsense.


So sure. Tim Cook and the Apple Board could wake up tomorrow and track Apple as a corporation to lower profit margins. It is not impossible. It isn't very likely either.

However, the notion that this 30% is coming out of thin air or a guess. It is not. Far more quantitative analysis of what Apple is doing. Fitting a line or curve to a set of data points is not speculation unless bastardize what speculation actually means.
 
It's also included a standard Display port too. I just have not seen any PC with the mini port or graphics card (other than Apple's)

Plenty of amd models have been available with miniDP

Edit: doh. I see this has already been said.
 
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