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No Airdisk (Airport) Time Machine Backups!

everyone, this worked wonders for me and is easier than the rest of the solutions imho

Run this from terminal and load up time machine to select your drive! You don't need to hook the drive up to the Mac first, you dont have to go chowning files and all that nonsense.

Code: 
defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
 
Now TM show me AirDisk

But when i select it TM don't go over....

My Disk si FAT32 format.

Any help?:eek:
 
Yeeaa

It Now Func.
I Have Used Ip Address For Mount Drive (instead Name Of Share)
Tm Is Now Preparing For Making My Backup

I Will Update Soon!
 
DoreanGrae said:
Not entirely true. It can backup to network drives, but they have to be running off of a Leopard-based system.
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Did you use any of the seeds ? During my extensive testing (which a lot was revolving around timemachine and how we are going to bring it into the company) It worked fine over SMB and AFP to none Leopard machines ... yes, even AFP to a Linux box worked fine.

It *DID* work, but Apple for reasons unknown pulled the plug on it last minute. If they don't fix this in 10.5.1, I am going to be rather pissed.
 
mccoy88f said:
TM func with FAT32 only if is over Network Drive.
An hack is to make the first backup with your FAT32 HD using NETWORK DRIVE
and them connect in local and try.
Remeber that local and remote drive must have same name.

I have made a simple app (based on applescript) to enable and disable TM support for unsupported disk
called TM Manager
Find here:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26160/tm-manager
or here
http://antonellomigliorelli.googlepages.com/tm

Thanks Mindflux for your hack!
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Very interesting ... I ran it and now my SMB share is there again! I am going to try AFP when I get home.

My question is, why did your app work when the command above didn't work for me. What did you do ?
 
I was able to get SMB to show up, and I am now backing up both Laptops. Which on a side note, I hate SMB is just too fscking slow.

However, I have not been successful getting it to see my AFP share on my server. That is a real bummer, because I would rather use AFP then SMB.

I am going to keep trying.
 
Mindflux said:
everyone, this worked wonders for me and is easier than the rest of the solutions imho

Run this from terminal and load up time machine to select your drive! You don't need to hook the drive up to the Mac first, you dont have to go chowning files and all that nonsense.

Code: 
defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
Click to expand...

DUDE! YOU ARE MY HERO!

http://digg.com/apple/Time_Machine_backup_to_unsupported_drive
Digg link!
 
Mindflux said:
everyone, this worked wonders for me and is easier than the rest of the solutions imho

Run this from terminal and load up time machine to select your drive! You don't need to hook the drive up to the Mac first, you dont have to go chowning files and all that nonsense.

Code: 
defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
Click to expand...
Holy crap! This really works! I've tried lots of other stuff but nothing else helped - nice job!
 
Mindflux said:
everyone, this worked wonders for me and is easier than the rest of the solutions imho

Run this from terminal and load up time machine to select your drive! You don't need to hook the drive up to the Mac first, you dont have to go chowning files and all that nonsense.

Code: 
defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
Click to expand...

That does in fact work, even if I can't load the disk in the Finder, it sees it in Time Machine. I guess I better do a backup and wait the 24 hours or so it'll take to see if it's really what I want.
 
OK, question: Everything works great... but what about if I need to restore the entire drive using the dvd? When I pop the Leopard disk in and choose "recover Time Machine" It doesn't see anything. Is there a way to mount the backup in Terminal, so it shows up?
 
samh004 said:
That does in fact work, even if I can't load the disk in the Finder, it sees it in Time Machine. I guess I better do a backup and wait the 24 hours or so it'll take to see if it's really what I want.
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I had this problem too, where I could not browse the Air Disk with the finder after I mounted it (desktop icon). I deleted my keychain for the Airport Extreme password and reconnected, worked fine and fixed it not working in finder and a related unmount problem i was having.
 
Yup, typed that into terminal and now backup is running to my AirPort Extreme. Now I just have to wait for it to finish the 122 gigs :rolleyes:.
 
TimeMachine to NFS

Hello,

I am getting an error in the log files when I select an NFS volume in TimeMachine. The error is...

11/14/07 8:48:57 AM System Preferences[395] Time Machine: Error 250277664 returned by NetAuthOpenSession()

Anyone know how to work around this?

Thanks,

Ted
 
I have a network drive that I can mount and move files on and off. How come Time Machine can't see it, and will that script help with this?
 
felix's warning are words of wisdom - anyone using this hack and SMB shares should read it (and understand it might write over all of your backups).

I am using the TMShow.. hack in parallel with a regular backup regimen (both to the same Maxtor Shared Storage unit at work) so am willing to experiment..

Anyway a problem I am having is that my computer is a laptop which I use at home and work. I can't get the laptop to "see" the network drive when I leave work, go home, and then come back in the morning. Do I need to always re-mount the SMB share by hand? I thought time machine would be set up to go and re-mount it as needed..

thanks.
 
If the solution is this simple, why doesn't Apple implement it?

When is Time Machine going to support AirDisks?!? I have seen no mention of it in descriptions of the 10.5.2 seed. :mad:
 
netdog said:
If the solution is this simple, why doesn't Apple implement it?

When is Time Machine going to support AirDisks?!? I have seen no mention of it in descriptions of the 10.5.2 seed. :mad:
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I suspect that the reason Apple hasn't implemented this is that they can't guarantee it will work correctly with all the drives on the market. Since this data backup is so essential it is likely that Apple doesn't want to put itself in a position where it a key feature like this, that users will probably rely on in worse case scenarios to recover data, doesn't work properly over wireless. There could be a lot of angry customers and bad press should it not work correctly or reliably when needed.

Apple evidently is more confident with Time Machine over a wired drive. Maybe some users have gotten it to work via Airport. I'm not sure how I feel about using an undocumented feature that Apple has intentionally disabled for a reason as a means of restoring my data. Sure, there could be some marketing or IP reason behind it. I would err on the side of caution and presume that Apple chose not to implement this yet because it hasn't been sufficiently tested or past testing has demonstrated that it is buggy.
 
I Got It Working

I used the command line hack to enable unsupported disks.

First, the setup:

I use a MacBook Pro 17, with Gigabit Ethernet. I have one external 80GB FW800 Drive.

After careful deliberation, Time Machine declares that I have 1.3 million files in need of backing up (first time), at 127 GB.

I have an Airport Extreme Base Station, connected to a 1.3TB Drobo. The Drobo is an ideal network drive, as it is a "Slobo." It ain't exactly a racecar. However, it is very, very safe, and offers RAID 5 reliability at a fraction of the price.

I connected the Drobo to the APE Base Station, then the APE up to my network, turned off the wireless (security -call me tinfoil), and hooked up the GB Ethernet to my laptop. I have the share being advertised using Bonjour, with account permissions.

I have to mount the drive (very easy in Leopard). I use Time Machine to select the drive.

The first backup is a doozy. It is critical that you let it go from start to finish in one swoop. I tried breaking it up into parts, and that never worked. In my case, it took two days over GB ethernet. I don't even want to THINK about how long it would take over even 802.11n.

Another critical aspect is that, however you connect for the first backup is how you need to connect forever afterwards. I tried connecting to the backup via wireless (just an experiment) after the Big One, and got reset to the beginning. I have to connect by wired Ethernet from now on. I can live with that.

In any case, it now works. It ain't fast. Time Machine is not efficient at all. My wife's computer uses a FW800 to connect to a 750GB LaCie, and that is a decent speed.

YMMV.
 
Slooooow...

I currently back up my powerbook to a hard drive connected to my server, which is connected to my AEBS via ethernet.

It's SLLLLOOOOWWWW, but then again, it is only 802.11g.

It's still easier than plugging a hard drive in. I just mount the backup drive once a day (or leave it mounted if I'm at home) and I have no issues.
 
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