NO, i dont want to update apple, take a hint..

[stevemiller]

By not updating you are putting yourself at risk. Seriously, update the device as your backward thinking is more harmful than helpful.

first off, by that line of thinking, everyone should immediately replace their phone as soon as it no longer supports the latest update.

second, i've had now had numerous experiences with devices that became absolutely miserable to use for their final supported os versions. i'll make my own choice if its worth it to me to endure a frustratingly poor experience for that last patch, thanks.

to the original discussion: i did test deleting the download from storage, and it has not re-downloaded yet, which is heartening. thanks, C DM, and others who suggested that. i would still prefer the ability to simply disable auto-download in the first place. i think its an appropriate compromise that they leave the little (1) symbol on the settings icon to remind users that its available if they want it.

i hope the op has some luck getting his to stop re-downloading, which i hope is indeed a glitch rather than the expected behaviour!

 

[mrex]

What a world we live in where Android users want updates and iOS users don't.

yeah you want rather than need ;-)

btw. my old note10.1 has gotten several updates and major updates (from 4.0 to 4.4 during couple of years). my oneplus one is running android 6, when i got it it was running android 4.4. also all nexuses i have had got several updates. in android world also core gapps get updates from playstore rather than waiting, and waiting and still waiting a new android os as it happens to be with ios core aapps.

 

[KALLT]

When is the last time you gave your phone a full reset (DFU or restore through iTunes and then setup the iPhone as new instead of loading a back-up)? Each major version (iOS 7 > 8 // 8 > 9 etc.) I recommend to give your phone a fresh restore. Could be the placebo effect though.

Still running with the same data set since my iPhone 3G of 2008. There is nothing you could screw up yourself, unless perhaps you had a jailbreak. Given that the system pretty much owns the entire file system except the app containers, the system can just wipe everything else upon system updates.

Mobile phones are just not as powerful. When the system runs really well on the system it ships with, it will slow down because Apple adds more services to it over time. Given that Apple only supports one iOS version at a time, there really is only one option Apple can offer: update. Refusing to update means that bugs and security problems never get fixed. If you do not agree with this, then, and as stupid and pretentious this may sound, the iPhone is just not for you.

 

[Armen]

yeah you want rather than need ;-)

btw. my old note10.1 has gotten several updates and major updates (from 4.0 to 4.4 during couple of years). my oneplus one is running android 6, when i got it it was running android 4.4. also all nexuses i have had got several updates. in android world also core gapps get updates from playstore rather than waiting, and waiting and still waiting a new android os as it happens to be with ios core aapps.

Core apps on Android get updated often because there are like 10,000 different phone models out there.

It would be great if Apple could do this with it's core apps instead of waiting for a new iOS version to make the changes.

 

[danleon950410]

Still running with the same data set since my iPhone 3G of 2008. There is nothing you could screw up yourself, unless perhaps you had a jailbreak. Given that the system pretty much owns the entire file system except the app containers, the system can just wipe everything else upon system updates.

Mobile phones are just not as powerful. When the system runs really well on the system it ships with, it will slow down because Apple adds more services to it over time. Given that Apple only supports one iOS version at a time, there really is only one option Apple can offer: update. Refusing to update means that bugs and security problems never get fixed. If you do not agree with this, then, and as stupid and pretentious this may sound, the iPhone is just not for you.

Agreed, completely stupid and pretentious.
Just to be clear, the iPhone (as any electronic device on earth) is for ANYONE, ANYWHERE. The only requirement is that you paid for it or are willing to do so, that's all that matters for companies like Apple in the end.

However, Apple tactics are NOT for everyone, at least not for the persons that aren't camping outside and Apple Store on September 1. You see, their marketing is based in tempting you to updgrade your device when it's not yet necessary. You might, but the other half of the users won't, because reasons.
As simple as that. And if Apple can live with that for, like, 3 years, so can you or anyone on this forum.

 

[stevemiller]

Well, follow up.

The update re-downloaded. Same version. Looks like manually deleting only makes it hold off for a week.

So yes, Apple will now forcibly download and redownload updates over and over and nag you daily once it does.

So if iOS 10 runs poorly on my A8 iPhone (which isn't much faster than the a7), I have the wonderful options of:

-update the OS and accept a diminished experience from the phone I bought
-accept daily nag screens
-update my hardware, even if the phone was perfectly fine for my needs before the update was released.

 

[gobikerider]

Well, follow up.

The update re-downloaded. Same version. Looks like manually deleting only makes it hold off for a week.

So yes, Apple will now forcibly download and redownload updates over and over and nag you daily once it does.

So if iOS 10 runs poorly on my A8 iPhone (which isn't much faster than the a7), I have the wonderful options of:

-update the OS and accept a diminished experience from the phone I bought
-accept daily nag screens
-update my hardware, even if the phone was perfectly fine for my needs before the update was released.

We all know iOS has bad stutter jitter issues on older devices regardless of if they are a year old or 4 years old. The only thing we can do is ignore it and use our devices as normal.

 

[stevemiller]

We all know iOS has bad stutter jitter issues on older devices regardless of if they are a year old or 4 years old. The only thing we can do is ignore it and use our devices as normal.

Personally I don't want to reward that behaviour and I'll likely be taking a good look at alternatives whenever I'm in the market for a phone again.

Ps voicing discontent is different from being a hater, in case anyone is tempted to jump in there. Apple has their prorogatives and so do I. If we no longer align, that's just the way it is.

 

[gobikerider]

Personally I don't want to reward that behaviour and I'll likely be taking a good look at alternatives whenever I'm in the market for a phone again.

Ps voicing discontent is different from being a hater, in case anyone is tempted to jump in there. Apple has their prorogatives and so do I. If we no longer align, that's just the way it is.

I understand I jumped from a 5s to a nexus 5x because the 6s looked like a box of gimmicks the way they were marketing it and crap.
Now I'm counting the days until the iPhone 7 because the second it releases I'm going back to buy one with my tail between my legs lol

 

[JT2002TJ]

I guess the trick is to wait until the device is no longer allowed to get updates, then delete the latest update once it is no longer seeded by apple.

 

[Black Magic]

Personally I don't want to reward that behaviour and I'll likely be taking a good look at alternatives whenever I'm in the market for a phone again.

Ps voicing discontent is different from being a hater, in case anyone is tempted to jump in there. Apple has their prorogatives and so do I. If we no longer align, that's just the way it is.

Seriously, just update the device. You are making a mountain out of a ant hill. It never ceases to amaze me how folks will take something so simple and complicate the hell out of it by overthinking it.

Oh and when it's time for a new phone, instead of upgrading to a newer iPhone that will gracefully handle new updates for years, you will get another phone that rarely gets updates and be happy. Sound reasoning there.

 

[JT2002TJ]

Seriously, just update the device. You are making a mountain out of a any hill. It never ceases to amaze me at how folks will take something so simple and complicate the hell out of it by overthinking it.

There are plenty of reasons to not upgrade. One example, I use my iphone 5 as a GPS for my motorcycle. I pay for service on the phone (online GPS and streaming music). I do not have the time while riding to deal with lags because of installing a later iOS than what I have now. I have 8.2.something, and actually wish I had upgraded it to 8.4.1, but since apple doesn't allow updates to older iOS', I'm now stuck.

I ride a sport bike, I keep my hand away from the phone as much as possible, but there are occasions I need to, I do not want to have a laggy experience while riding.

 

[gobikerider]

Seriously, just update the device. You are making a mountain out of a any hill. It never ceases to amaze me at how folks will take something so simple and complicate the hell out of it by overthinking it.

Oh and when it's time for a new phone, instead of upgrading to a newer iPhone that will gracefully handle new updates for years, you will get another phone that rarely gets updates and be happy. Sound reasoning there.

Nexus devices get updates but even on stock Android the day to day experience is less consistent than iOS. Performance can vary day to day as we'll as battery life, one day I get through the day the next it's drained by lunch and I'm doing the same exact things. I think back to my 5s days and wish for the consistency of that device. I can't admit for what the iPhone 7 brings.

 

[Black Magic]

There are plenty of reasons to not upgrade. One example, I use my iphone 5 as a GPS for my motorcycle. I pay for service on the phone (online GPS and streaming music). I do not have the time while riding to deal with lags because of installing a later iOS than what I have now. I have 8.2.something, and actually wish I had upgraded it to 8.4.1, but since apple doesn't allow updates to older iOS', I'm now stuck.

I ride a sport bike, I keep my hand away from the phone as much as possible, but there are occasions I need to, I do not want to have a laggy experience while riding.

You are rocking a 4 year old device going on 5 years. It's cool and you are saving money, but truth be told, your device will probably be end of life come September. It is time for you to upgrade to a newer phone IMHO so that you can get another 5 years of savings.

$399 for an iPhone SE. Get it!

 

[gobikerider]

You are rocking a 4 year old device going on 5 years. It's cool and you are saving money, but truth be told, your device will probably be end of life come September. It is time for you to upgrade to a newer phone IMHO so that you can get another 5 years of savings.

$399 for an iPhone SE. Get it!

Why would he upgrade a device that works fine for the special use case it's used for. Your telling him to go buy a new iPhone $400 dollars that he would use as a Gps. That's poor advice and a waste of money the iPhone 5 is more than capable for what he is using it for. Sorry I just hate people that give poor advice that would end up being a waste of money.

 

[Black Magic]

Why would he upgrade a device that works fine for the special use case it's used for. Your telling him to go buy a new iPhone $400 dollars that he would use as a Gps. That's poor advice and a waste of money the iPhone 5 is more than capable for what he is using it for. Sorry I just hate people that give poor advice that would end up being a waste of money.

Well is it poor advise? That battery probably is getting close to it's last legs. Heck, why not grab a $100 Garmin and be done with it? Again, we have a person trying to squeeze every last inch of life out of a 5 year old device. Definitely not a bad thing but I wouldn't knock someone for recommending them to upgrade. Personally, I think you get the right tool for the job.

 

[gobikerider]

Well is it poor advise? That battery probably is getting close to it's last legs. Heck, why not grab a $100 Garmin and be done with it? Again, we have a person trying to squeeze every last inch of life out of a 5 year old device. Definitely not a bad thing but I wouldn't knock someone for recommending them to upgrade. Personally, I think you get the right tool for the job.

The garmin idea is good but it wasn't what you originally suggested.

 

[Black Magic]

The garmin idea is good but it wasn't what you originally suggested.

Well yea. Think about it. $400 over a 5 year time span of use is $80 a year. Not a bad investment. Not the best one either depending on how you are using the device.

 

[stevemiller]

Seriously, just update the device. You are making a mountain out of a ant hill. It never ceases to amaze me how folks will take something so simple and complicate the hell out of it by overthinking it.

Oh and when it's time for a new phone, instead of upgrading to a newer iPhone that will gracefully handle new updates for years, you will get another phone that rarely gets updates and be happy. Sound reasoning there.

No thanks, Ill instead make my own decisions without an Internet stranger telling me what I need to ok with.

Apple should let people turn off auto updates. End of story.

 

[bufffilm]

Well, follow up.

The update re-downloaded. Same version. Looks like manually deleting only makes it hold off for a week.

So yes, Apple will now forcibly download and redownload updates over and over and nag you daily once it does.

So if iOS 10 runs poorly on my A8 iPhone (which isn't much faster than the a7), I have the wonderful options of:

-update the OS and accept a diminished experience from the phone I bought
-accept daily nag screens
-update my hardware, even if the phone was perfectly fine for my needs before the update was released.

Just say no each time. Not the best of solutions, but there is little choice.

I have a 6s on 9.01 and have not gotten any notice though. Verizon update for carrier bugs me 1-3x per day but that's it.

 

[JT2002TJ]

Just FYI, my phone 5 is wired to the battery and charges while riding. Everytime I get off my bike the phone is at 100% charged. This is my GPS/Music only phone. I have an iPhone 6 Plus, and will be getting a 7 plus. There is NO reason to change this device, it really runs FAST on iOS 8.2.whatever.

 

[gobikerider]

Just FYI, my phone 5 is wired to the battery and charges while riding. Everytime I get off my bike the phone is at 100% charged. This is my GPS/Music only phone. I have an iPhone 6 Plus, and will be getting a 7 plus. There is NO reason to change this device, it really runs FAST on iOS 8.2.whatever.

Wow that's actually really cool

 

[macfacts]

Core apps on Android get updated often because there are like 10,000 different phone models out there.

It would be great if Apple could do this with it's core apps instead of waiting for a new iOS version to make the changes.

Updates to core apps on Android are for new features and bug fixes, they are not to add support for new hardware.

The software that handles that are called devices drivers (or kernel modules under Linux).

 

[C DM]

Updates to core apps on Android are for new features and bug fixes, they are not to add support for new hardware.

The software that handles that are called devices drivers (or kernel modules under Linux).

I don't think that's how that was meant.

 

[Armen]

Updates to core apps on Android are for new features and bug fixes, they are not to add support for new hardware.

I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying that apps need to be updated more frequently on Android OS compared to iOS because there are so many different combinations of hardware/software out there.