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sam_dean

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Do you have the ifixit teardown link to confirm the M2 has this on the Mac Mini & iMac?
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theorist9

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Have to disagree with that. As a 27" iMac power user, I can't imagine using a Mac again without the fidelity of a 5k screen. I have an M1 Mac Mini with a 4k as well, and the difference is night and day - the 5k is super-friendly on the eyes!
Agree about the value of having a 5k 27", since I'm running that as my main monitor, and a 4k 27" as one of my two side monitors.

An M2 Mini/Studio Display will be the combo to replace the iMac; the M2 will be a powerhouse for years to come for the level of work I do, which is stretching the iMac a little these days but that Mini will lap it up!
Not for me. My 2019 27" iMac can drive three displays, and that's what I'm using, while the M2 can drive only two. Plus I can install 128 GB RAM (which is what's in there now). The M2 is limited to 24 GB.

Thus to replicate the full capabilities of the 19/20 27" iMacs, you really need an ASD + Mac Studio.

Plus if you're spending all that money to replace the iMac with a new machine, you'd probably want something that's not merely equal to the iMac but exceeds it, and the M2's MC speed is about the same as the i9 iMac's.

Bottom line: You can't expect Apple's lowest-end AS Mac to act as a replacement for its highest-end Intel consumer desktop, at least for those that make full use of the latter's capabilities.
 
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pshufd

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I am thankful I bought the Mac Studio before the price hike and forex changes.

I am good until year 2031. Hopefully by then my currency strengthens.

I'm sure that the Fed will cut rates after tanking the US economy, probably starting in 2024.

It's easier in the US as the prices haven't changed and there are refurb models. I haven't seen Mac Studios in my area on Craigslist yet but they will get there eventually.
 
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Gudi

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Love how this nonsense persists. Operating normally is now ✌🏾cooling issues✌🏾
That's not a lie. When my otherwise cool and silent 24" iMac suddenly makes audible fan noise, I'm immediately shocked and concerned. You can't go from absolute silence to 7000rpm. I'm not prepared for normal operations! 😱
 

MikeDr206

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People have lost interest in an M2 mini because we saw how much of a price hike the M2 brought to the MacBook Air.
I’m curious about this. The M1 Mini is perfect for my needs, except I need 32gb (possibly 24 in a pinch) due to running a Windows vm.

When I price out a Mini M1 16gb/1tb, it comes in at $1,299. It’ll be interesting if a M2 24GB/1tb comes in at $1,399, $1,499, or $1,599.
 
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EugW

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I'm not convinced the M2 Mac mini will increase in price in the US, unless it gets a design overhaul or some other features (like more ports). One scenario I could see happening though is that M1 will remain as the entry-level machine, whereas M2 could start at 512 GB storage, although I'd prefer if it they just dropped M1 altogether.

In Canada, I'm predicting that the pricing for the various tiers will go up CA$50 across the board. For entry level that represents a 6% increase in price, and at higher priced configurations that might represent a 3% price increase. That would reflect the change in value of the Canadian dollar (as it hasn't fallen against the US dollar nearly as much as other currencies have).
 

dandeco

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Yeah, as I've frequently said, I'm looking to get a "headless" Apple Silicon Mac desktop, after having been using my M1 MacBook Air for a year and a half now and loving it. But rather than an M1 Mac Mini, I want something more souped up, which is why my ideal machine would be an M2 Pro Mac Mini with 32 GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD. It'd be replacing my 2012 quad-core i7 Mac Mini (upgraded with 16 GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD), and so it'd be a logical replacement, and so I don't have to often use my M1 Air in "Clamshell" mode if I want a traditional desktop experience.
As for design, I could see the M2 Minis looking identical to the M1 Minis, and the M2 Pro Mini looking identical to that last remaining Intel Mini; the only difference would be that it'd have four Thunderbolt/USB-C ports instead of two. And if that were the case, I can still use it with my CalDigit TS3-Plus Thunderbolt 3 dock for if I want to use additional USB-A ports, an SD card slot and optical audio in (like when I'm recording something from my cassette recorder or my record player). Currently with my M1 Air, I've got an Ethernet wire hooked up to the TS3-Plus dock for wired Internet, but once I get such an M2 Pro Mini I'll just hook up the Ethernet to the port on the Mini, the way I have with my 2012 i7 Mini. (Sure made a big difference since we moved into our current ranch house and were able to run an Ethernet line from the basement to my room with a router installed.)
 

EugW

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Yeah, as I've frequently said, I'm looking to get a "headless" Apple Silicon Mac desktop, after having been using my M1 MacBook Air for a year and a half now and loving it. But rather than an M1 Mac Mini, I want something more souped up, which is why my ideal machine would be an M2 Pro Mac Mini with 32 GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD. It'd be replacing my 2012 quad-core i7 Mac Mini (upgraded with 16 GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD), and so it'd be a logical replacement, and so I don't have to often use my M1 Air in "Clamshell" mode if I want a traditional desktop experience.
As for design, I could see the M2 Minis looking identical to the M1 Minis, and the M2 Pro Mini looking identical to that last remaining Intel Mini; the only difference would be that it'd have four Thunderbolt/USB-C ports instead of two. And if that were the case, I can still use it with my CalDigit TS3-Plus Thunderbolt 3 dock for if I want to use additional USB-A ports, an SD card slot and optical audio in (like when I'm recording something from my cassette recorder or my record player). Currently with my M1 Air, I've got an Ethernet wire hooked up to the TS3-Plus dock for wired Internet, but once I get such an M2 Pro Mini I'll just hook up the Ethernet to the port on the Mini, the way I have with my 2012 i7 Mini. (Sure made a big difference since we moved into our current ranch house and were able to run an Ethernet line from the basement to my room with a router installed.)
Hmm... 32 GB M2 Pro 1 TB SSD? If released, I suspect it would be pretty close in price to the M1 Max Mac Studio.

Using the Intel Mac mini as a surrogate, that would be $1899.
If you configure a Mac Studio similarly, that would be $2199.

So, a $300 difference, but the Mac Studio has more ports, more performance, and better cooling. I think in that scenario a lot of people would just go for the upsell and get the Mac Studio.

Personally what I'm hoping for is an option for 24 GB RAM in the M2 Pro for $200 less, since 32 GB for me is complete overkill. I'm not optimistic we'll see both M2 Pro and a 24 GB option though.
 

MayaUser

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People have lost interest in an M2 mini because we saw how much of a price hike the M2 brought to the MacBook Air.
Strike 1 - That will not happen with the M2 mac mini. Completely different scenarios and R&D spendings
M2 Macbook air was a redesign and keeping the M1 Macbook air at the same price
Here they cannot do it...mac mini will stay the same for the M2 since its rumoured to be exactly the same and lower the price of the M1 mac mini if they chose to keep i
 
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MayaUser

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M2 Mac mini will probably start at the same $699 probably with an $300-$500 upgrade tot he M2 pro
And hopefully Apple will keep the M1 mac mini for people who wants to swap from Intel as cheap as they can with M1+8gb ram $599
 

pshufd

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I’m curious about this. The M1 Mini is perfect for my needs, except I need 32gb (possibly 24 in a pinch) due to running a Windows vm.

When I price out a Mini M1 16gb/1tb, it comes in at $1,299. It’ll be interesting if a M2 24GB/1tb comes in at $1,399, $1,499, or $1,599.

This is exactly my situation. I'm running production on it and office on an old iMac with 32 GB of RAM. 24 GB of RAM would allow me to run most stuff on a mini. 32 GB would allow me to run everything on a mini. That's why I've considered a Studio for a while - it's just way more CPU/GPU than I need. I would also like to run a Windows VM from time to time. Right now I run it on my M1 Pro MacBook Pro with 32 GB of RAM and it runs fine there. I can run my production, office and Windows VM on the MacBook Pro when I am mobile.
 
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Tagbert

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Do you have the ifixit teardown link to confirm the M2 has this on the Mac Mini & iMac?
Cute.

The M2 MBA has a heat sink but no fans. It’s thermal ceiling is always going to be lower than a system with fans.

The M1 Mini and iMac have heat sinks and fans. They should have no problem handling the small increase in maximum heat produced by the M2. Since the Mini case already handles the much hotter Intel CPUS, it should be able to handle an M2 Pro upgrade without problem as well.
 

sam_dean

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iPad Pro M2 tells me that these SKUs sell more than the Mac mini..... or

Apple has a better margin with the M2 being in the iPad Pro than the Mac mini..... or

Specific parts for the Mac mini M2 were not available during specific timeline.... or

Apple wanted a new body for the Mac mini M2 but it wasn't ready at the same time the Macbook Air M2 came out...

Either way I'd be more incline to get a Mac mini M1 Pro that is missing in the Mac mini M1 & Mac Studio M1 Max because I want 32GB memory and 512GB storage.
 
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