Nokia unveals Lumia 920...can we say DOA?

[dgree03]

THIS THIS THIS

Why do all these companies ignore Apple's simple tactic of announcing and then releasing a week or two later? It's spectacularly stupid on their part, and Apple is supposed to be the newcomer in the cell phone business. Also, you'd think that Microsoft, seemingly following Apple's platform model, would urge Nokia to do the same.

I never understood that either!? ESPECIALLY when annoucing in the fall/winter time. There are so many other devices being released around then, its so easy to forget that the Lumia 920 was debuted in Sept when you are staring at an iPhone 5, Galaxy Nexus 2 and so on.

It boggles my mind.

 

[matttye]

I think it has more going for it than the new iPhone will have, but Apple will still sell about fifty times as many units

 

[jman240]

I think it has more going for it than the new iPhone will have, but Apple will still sell about fifty times as many units

Apple's strongest suits are still the strongest suits in the mobile industry. Ecosystem and tight integration of products. This is getting closer to the second but WP7/8 is a far cry from the first.

That's not to say that the Lumia 920 doesn't have its own things going for it. I've got to admit Microsoft has come very far with their mobile OS in a very short time and Nokia is releasing some nice looking and practical hardware. There's no reason to get into another MHz war like Android wants as long as the experience is decent and it seems they're very focused on that aspect. At this point it lacks apps and a cohesive content ecosystem. That may start to change rapidly depending on how well Microsoft fares with Windows 8 and the Xbox. If they can start to integrate these three environments in a more elegant way then WP8 should start to gain traction.

 

[Wrathwitch]

THIS THIS THIS

Why do all these companies ignore Apple's simple tactic of announcing and then releasing a week or two later? It's spectacularly stupid on their part, and Apple is supposed to be the newcomer in the cell phone business. Also, you'd think that Microsoft, seemingly following Apple's platform model, would urge Nokia to do the same.

I can't agree more with this! Nokia/Windows was very stupid in building up hype for an upcoming model which shows incredible potential very shortly before Apple releases their Keynote and doesn't have the bloody foresight and planning to ensure their device reaches consumers before the iPhone release or at the very least during, not in the long wake of it...

Very piss poor planning and it will bite them in the ass.

Other than that I think the phone looks great. I had a friend eagerly awaiting the release and is now disappointed and disgusted that he won't have it before winter or next year. That caused a loss of a sale already and I am sure there are more in the same boat.

 

[Cod3rror]

I can't agree more with this! Nokia/Windows was very stupid in building up hype for an upcoming model which shows incredible potential very shortly before Apple releases their Keynote and doesn't have the bloody foresight and planning to ensure their device reaches consumers before the iPhone release or at the very least during, not in the long wake of it...

Very piss poor planning and it will bite them in the ass.

Other than that I think the phone looks great. I had a friend eagerly awaiting the release and is now disappointed and disgusted that he won't have it before winter or next year. That caused a loss of a sale already and I am sure there are more in the same boat.

The funny thing is that when their current CEO came on board he identified that as one of the biggest problems with Nokia and claimed he'd work to shorten the announcement-release timeline.


Guess not, haha.

 

[Calidude]

The funny thing is that when their current CEO came on board he identified that as one of the biggest problems with Nokia and claimed he'd work to shorten the announcement-release timeline.

Guess not, haha.

I don't see what's so goddamn hard about it. All you have to do is NOT announce until release is 2 weeks away. Why do these people always have to embarrass themselves with premature proclamation?

 

[wrkactjob]

Isn't there an argument that by saying "this is the superb product that we have coming" that some people will hold off getting the ip5 to buy their product?

By waiting to make the announcement until their product is ready to ship they risk loosing that section of potential buyers because those people may already by then gone out and upgraded or got themselves into new tie-in contracts etc?

 

[Calidude]

Isn't there an argument that by saying "this is the superb product that we have coming" that some people will hold off getting the ip5 to buy their product?

By waiting to make the announcement until their product is ready to ship they risk loosing that section of potential buyers because those people may already by then gone out and upgraded or got themselves into new tie-in contracts etc?

Yes but its a terrible argument when you consider that if you only announce a product and your competitor has both announced and shipped a product, the one that's likely to sell more in the long run is the one that people can get in their hands today rather than the product they'll forget existed when it finally gets released 3-4 months later.

 

[jamojamo]

Personally I think the new Lumia is absolutely fantastic - looks fantastic, seems to operate fantastic, and brings a lot of neat new (not copied) features.

But I think the phone IS kinda-sorta DOA, because (IMO):

2) The Windows app market, for now, is pretty dead - I was browsing yesterday, and really the lack of QUALITY/signature apps is embarassing. MS really needs to do a lot more work here before people will seriously consider the Lumia.

Where's the best place to check out the Windows app market?

 

[wrkactjob]

Yes but its a terrible argument when you consider that if you only announce a product and your competitor has both announced and shipped a product, the one that's likely to sell more in the long run is the one that people can get in their hands today rather than the product they'll forget existed when it finally gets released 3-4 months later.

Ah! Immediate gratification versus deferred eh?...I remember studying that in my Sociology lessons!....something about it being a working class trait.?..Murray Straus at the university of Minessota et al.....pesky sociologists can't even afford an iPhone...pah!

 

[JesalTV]

I really, really like the look of that phone. The camera is very impressive. Too bad Nokia faked their image stabilization demonstrations, though. That really wasn't necessary.


http://youtu.be/cimDfEIEiu0

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Wow, didn't realise that. That's really stupid of them.

 

[cynics]

WTF Nokia?

http://pocketnow.com/2012/09/05/is-nokia-marketing-misleading/

http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/09/06/an-apology-is-due/

Regardless, the feature is not even on the radar of my priority list.

 

[MacFather]

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