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Kendo

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Will we see it in their Galaxy S 5 and it will be called S Touch?

I know Android has fingerprint readers but this is solely via a software touch screen program and not a hardware sensor.
 

spblat

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It's not just *a* fingerprint sensor, but:

  • An accurate sensor
  • That's easy to register
  • That works quickly
  • And doesn't fail to recognize the proper user
  • And doesn't admit the wrong user
  • And properly safeguards the user's biometric data
 

APhillyApple

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Considering that Samsung is trying its hardest to be an Apple clone and copycats most of its tech, I almost certain its next flagship will have along with all its other tons of phones it produces.
 

JH-

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I could be wrong but I think one of the limitations are the apis available within android. One of the benefits of apple owning their own software and hardware is they can roll things like this out relatively quickly and can change hardware with software. That was the biggest issue with the atrix. The niche functionality of the product.
 

TheRealCBONE

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I could be wrong but I think one of the limitations are the apis available within android. One of the benefits of apple owning their own software and hardware is they can roll things like this out relatively quickly and can change hardware with software. That was the biggest issue with the atrix. The niche functionality of the product.

This. Until the APIs are released AND picked up by developers, it's a niche gimmick. Apple isn't going to open theirs up for transactions where they wouldn't get a cut, because they could be cut out of the payment loop entirely in that scenario. Google would for the info they could sell access to and make it free.

Anyway: as we speak, security nerds are tearing that thing to hell and back to find some insecurity. Even stupid ones. It could end up dead in the water any day now. Doubly so once a jailbreak is rumored. Any fix would have to wait for apple to release a new version of iOS7.
 

appleisking

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I could be wrong but I think one of the limitations are the apis available within android. One of the benefits of apple owning their own software and hardware is they can roll things like this out relatively quickly and can change hardware with software. That was the biggest issue with the atrix. The niche functionality of the product.

Couldn't they implement it into touchwiz?
 

Donvald

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Jan 31, 2013
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Of course there would no restriction of Samsung (if they wished) to introduce a fingerprint sensor as a feature of their skin.

As for whether they wanted to introduce it, it would depend upon the market; whether people appeared to like it or not and whether it was a popular feature.

People need to adopt a less juvenile way of looking at things; a good manufacturer is one that responds to the wants of the market, by ignoring things that customers have expressed they do not want and adopting those that they do. There is nothing wrong with implementing popular features, indeed, to ignore them in such a competitive market would be foolish. Apple with their iOS7 have clearly adopted Android features that are popular which, whilst may be 'copying' deliver what customers want. Thats good business practice.
 

MRSucks

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They will implement it to various sizes. A 10 inch S5 will be released next month. Not all fingers have the same sizes. They will have one which will scan your entire hand.

/s
 

appleisking

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Like Maps being and it's inspiration of Google Maps?

Keep flaming fanboy.

Which still doesn't refute the actual notion that s-voice does indeed suck as do many of the features of touch-wiz, and why integrating it into that software is of questionable prudence. Why everyone has to immediately get on the defensive like you just did is beyond me.

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Like S-Voice and its aspirations of being a Siri Alternative?

Based upon that experience alone it would probably suck.

Hey not saying it would be done well just it's a viable alternative for samsung even without android api.
 

Donvald

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Jan 31, 2013
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Like S-Voice and its aspirations of being a Siri Alternative?

Based upon that experience alone it would probably suck.

A very myopic way of looking at things. Why single out S-Voice, when there are various other features taken from other devices on both Apple and Samsung implemented that do not originate with either? To suggest S-Voice aspires to be Siri is the same as Apple being accused of aspiring to simulate the first touch screen device, the first colour screen mobile device, the first capacitive screened device etc etc. The claim of aspiration then, is in your own mind.

Whether it 'sucks' or not is decided on the user experience and so far, Samsung's Touchwiz has and continues to prove popular with the wider public, since manufacturer's skins are often the main differentiator between Android devices.
 

adder7712

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Considering that Samsung is trying its hardest to be an Apple clone and copycats most of its tech, I almost certain its next flagship will have along with all its other tons of phones it produces.

How did Motorola copy Apple with the Atrix that came out two years ago?
 

Technarchy

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May 21, 2012
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Hey not saying it would be done well just it's a viable alternative for samsung even without android api.

I have my doubts. Touchwiz is my favorite android skin, but my GS4 experience has made it clear that Samsung's software savvy lags by miles behind their hardware prowess.

Sure Samsung can add the feature, but the execution is what matters.
 

Donvald

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Jan 31, 2013
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Do you guys even use S-Voice still?


I don't use it, don't use Siri either. Doesn't feel natural for me to speak to a phone. Maybe its a generational thing as I think talking to electronic devices will be the norm in a few years time and no-one will think anything of it. But for me, I don't trust voice activated stuff so I babysit them to see if they understood what I said, which defeats the purpose of them in the first place.
 

Vegastouch

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Jul 12, 2008
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Dont care about a fingerprint reader. Not like it is new. Microsoft used it long ago.

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No s voice, no Google now and no siri. They're all just battery drainers and gimmicks.

I disabled S Voice long ago because it sucked. I dont know if it is better or not but Google Now doesnt drain my battery that much and it is a great "gimmick" Does a lot of things without asking it to. I never had Siri but ive heard many more complaints about it than not.
 

Savor

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Jun 18, 2010
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I say Samsung will adopt a fingerprint sensor and 64-bit faster than Apple can adopt an IR blaster, FULL HD, stylus pen, or 4K video recording.

For every NEW things that works correctly from Apple, they still have alot of areas they are catching up to.

I'm still waiting for the day the fingerprint sensor is on the SCREEN itself and the phone wakes up by gestures. I like that the Nokia N9 and BB10 phones can wake up without any mechanical button. Eliminates having to press the power button or home button all the time.

Android has a bigger problem because it lacks a home button. I had to use No Lock to wake up my Nexus on Gingerbead with volume buttons. I use Motion Actions app because my HTC One is on Jelly Bean and cant wake up with volume buttons. Saves the wear and tear of the power button.
 

Oohara

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Jun 28, 2012
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Of course there would no restriction of Samsung (if they wished) to introduce a fingerprint sensor as a feature of their skin.

As for whether they wanted to introduce it, it would depend upon the market; whether people appeared to like it or not and whether it was a popular feature.

People need to adopt a less juvenile way of looking at things; a good manufacturer is one that responds to the wants of the market, by ignoring things that customers have expressed they do not want and adopting those that they do. There is nothing wrong with implementing popular features, indeed, to ignore them in such a competitive market would be foolish. Apple with their iOS7 have clearly adopted Android features that are popular which, whilst may be 'copying' deliver what customers want. Thats good business practice.

This post should be made sticky. Discussing who "copied" who is completely pointless, it's really only about feeding fanboy ego.

As for Samsung putting fingerprint readers on their Galaxy devices, I'm not so sure they'll feel they need to. It may be a valuable comfort for some but most people probly won't miss it very much. Not to the point where the feature would be a primary deciding factor in their choice of device.

For me personally it really isn't. What sometimes makes me feel a slight urge for an Apple mobile device is their build quality/visual appeal, and the consistency/non-glitchiness of iOS and its ecosystem. But the fingerprint reader? Not having one of my future Note 3 just really doesn't bother me at all.
 
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