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Not joking - How long will it take for Galaxy to adopt fingerprint sensor?
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Considering 1. Apple bought the company that had the technology and 2. Implemented it to perfection. I think it will take a long time for Samsung to copy this one off Apple.
Are we talking about Samsung or Motorola?
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You are right I have not used a Samsung phone, however it doesnt take me using one to know that Samsung likes to copy Apple. No reason to get testy, they are just phones, not a lifes dedication.
Perfection? Calm it down. Until there's a real world value and market for it outside of unlocking your phone and buying crap on iTunes, why would anyone else bother?
Apparently you care too much. Also, some people would now ignore you for that very line.
As for that Motorola comment, the model I specified (the original Atrix) has a fingerprint sensor. And I think an older LG phone had one too.
So you don't really know, you're just guessing based on "common knowledge".
Got it.
Not exactly guessing, just going from different tech articles that seem to tell that tale. ohh well I guess not really that serious.
You dont know me well enough, I am not sure I care if people ignore me, i dont require likes, thumbs up, and positive quote reinforcement for my personal validation.
We are all here merely sharing our opinion, nothing more. When I turn off this MacBook I wont give this thread a second thought. We are all just faceless internet entities that come here to spout off, simply.
You do realize most tech articles these days are blogs, which are opinion pieces, right?
lol, I think you are the fanboy...
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TS, if they can get their hands on some tech that works similarly to the one apple bought you might see something, but afaik there isn't one out there to buy as good as the one apple got. Android makers were worrying about bigger screen sizes and didn't even see it/think until too late when apple bought the tech.
Most Android flagship phones don't have physical home keys -- the only one is really Samsung, right?
If fingerprint does take off, it'll be interesting to see how they implement it. Will it be like the long rumored fingerprint sensor on the HTC One Max?
I'm not sure. Or will it be something made on the software side, where you can place your finger anywhere on the screen and it'll read it?
I think HTC should've made the blank HTC logo on the front the home and/or fingerprint scanner.
If fingerprint does take off, it'll be interesting to see how they implement it. Will it be like the long rumored fingerprint sensor on the HTC One Max?
I'm not sure. Or will it be something made on the software side, where you can place your finger anywhere on the screen and it'll read it?
I think HTC should've made the blank HTC logo on the front the home and/or fingerprint scanner.
Every OEM including Apple borrows or adopts ideas from others.
LG was the first at capacitive, dual core, quad core with LTE, and even 120fps slow motion of 2007's LG Viewty! LG tends to be the guinea pig of tech until Samsung and HTC refine the technology.
Samsung Galaxy Note wasnt the first phone at 5 inches. It was the Dell Streak which was a commercial flop the year prior. But they created interest in phablet market.
Android borrowed ideas from iOS and even Windows Mobile and Symbian. But iOS also borrowed ideas from the Palm Treo and iOS7 has borrowed and adopted many ideas from Android, Windows Phone, and webOS.
LG was the first at capacitive, dual core, quad core with LTE, and even 120fps slow motion of 2007's LG Viewty! LG tends to be the guinea pig of tech until Samsung and HTC refine the technology.
Samsung Galaxy Note wasnt the first phone at 5 inches. It was the Dell Streak which was a commercial flop the year prior. But they created interest in phablet market.
Android borrowed ideas from iOS and even Windows Mobile and Symbian. But iOS also borrowed ideas from the Palm Treo and iOS7 has borrowed and adopted many ideas from Android, Windows Phone, and webOS.
I think a Chinese site confirmed that is indeed the fingerprint sensor. They tested it and said it was quite accurate.
What is this magical "real world value" ?
Unlocking is what I do *all* the time.
There is no "real world" activity that I do more often.
So, suit yourself. For most people, unlocking with fingerprints is all they will want and need.
-t
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If that was to be as safe as Apple's (i.e., not being fooled by lifted fingerprints), it would be truly a feat. If Samsung could pull that off, my hat's off to them.
Alas, that would require true R&D, and lots of it.
-t
My understanding is that the Touch ID is strictly only for unlocking the phone and making iTunes purchases. There are times where you still have to input passwords, like when logging into iTunes Radio and a few other things.
That's what I read.
It should be consistent all throughout and be a full on password replacement. Maybe down the line it will.
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Well said. Most people understand this. Few don't, usually on the Apple side, where there are fervent fans that are convinced everyone copies Apple and Apple invents everything. And when it's so blatantly obvious they didn't invent something, then Apple is only "justifiably adopting the trends" and/or "they're the first to get it right."
Both of these can be true, but it should be true in every direction. As you mentioned, a great example is the Note series learning from the Dell Streak.
That's what I read.
It should be consistent all throughout and be a full on password replacement. Maybe down the line it will.
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Well said. Most people understand this. Few don't, usually on the Apple side, where there are fervent fans that are convinced everyone copies Apple and Apple invents everything. And when it's so blatantly obvious they didn't invent something, then Apple is only "justifiably adopting the trends" and/or "they're the first to get it right."
Both of these can be true, but it should be true in every direction. As you mentioned, a great example is the Note series learning from the Dell Streak.
I'm not sure if Samsung will put it in the next Galaxy flagship, but looking at their extensive and somewhat muddled range I wouldn't be surprised if they put it in one of their lesser phones to test the response.
You know this round their first priority with the S5 will be a 64-bit processor and better materials though.
You know this round their first priority with the S5 will be a 64-bit processor and better materials though.
There are apps if you want to use a fingerprint unlock. This is not something new and cutting edge. Its old tech already
Your face is not good enough?
It's a shame that didn't take off. If and when I get the Nexus 5, might give it another go. It was much improved, I heard.
EDIT: I forget I have it on my Nexus 7!
It's actually pretty impressive. It's been improved so that you can re-capture your face in different settings so it can scan it (for example you can do one with and then another without glasses). It's actually pretty seamless. Unlocks in a second and requires no real effort (like punching in a pin). Going to keep it on and see how it goes...
EDIT 2: Just tried it under extremely low light (lights in the room off, just the monitor reflecting off my face -- very dim) and it worked! No delay whatsoever.
I'm mightily impressed. The first time I used it on the Nexus 4 it was gimmicky, but this is now a viable unlocking option.
EDIT 3: Well duh, any 4.1+ phone will have face unlock, including my HTC One. I completely forgot about this. Going to use it on my One, too, for the next few days. See how it goes.
It's actually alarmingly fast. It feels as if it's not really taking the time to read my face at all, yet when you put someone else's face to it, it definitely fails to unlock. Very impressive.
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Not wise to consider nor rely on fingerprint scannre as a means for security: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Euro...round-the-Touch-ID-on-Apple-iPhone-5s_id47653
"We hope that this finally puts to rest the illusions people have about fingerprint biometrics. It is plain stupid to use something that you can´t change and that you leave everywhere every day as a security token. The public should no longer be fooled by the biometrics industry with false security claims. Biometrics is fundamentally a technology designed for oppression and control, not for securing everyday device access."
-Frank Rieger, spokesperson, CCC
"We hope that this finally puts to rest the illusions people have about fingerprint biometrics. It is plain stupid to use something that you can´t change and that you leave everywhere every day as a security token. The public should no longer be fooled by the biometrics industry with false security claims. Biometrics is fundamentally a technology designed for oppression and control, not for securing everyday device access."
-Frank Rieger, spokesperson, CCC
Not too long
Samsung is the fastest second mover in the industry. Part of why they're successful is their engineering and supply-chain resources are ridiculously competent when it comes to rapid feature adoption
Apple OTOH is the slowest second mover in the industry. Yet they manage to get away with it because when they finally reach feature parity 2 years later, their marketing group goes into overdrive and throws around words like "magical" and "beautiful"
Samsung is the fastest second mover in the industry. Part of why they're successful is their engineering and supply-chain resources are ridiculously competent when it comes to rapid feature adoption
Apple OTOH is the slowest second mover in the industry. Yet they manage to get away with it because when they finally reach feature parity 2 years later, their marketing group goes into overdrive and throws around words like "magical" and "beautiful"