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It's actually thinner than the iPhone and the screen is gorgeous but perhaps a bit too big for some (even though compared to the iPhone, the bezel/ border is tiny). I think a 3.8" screen with a 480p widescreen resolution is the sweet spot.

Thinner? That's crazy!! Can't wait till Tmobile gets it so I can go play with it. Don't worry, I'll leave my iPhone at home:p (Cant be unfaithful with her right in my pocket!).
 
Why do we need a home button - this can be replaced with a sensor - swipe the bottom and return to home screen - or smth like that

I'm all in favour of making the iPhone look more slick but don't convince Apple to have even less physical buttons. I don't want to stick my hands in my pocket and accidentally trigger something.
 
I'm all in favour of making the iPhone look more slick but don't convince Apple to have even less physical buttons. I don't want to stick my hands in my pocket and accidentally trigger something.

We can't convince Apple of anything...everybody and their mother has been asking for a flash for the camera along with a dedicated photo button and nothing yet. Please iPhone 4G (2010 edition) have at least a flash!!!
 
Op you have poor reasoning skills.

The iPhone and ipad are two separate devices
this would be like assuming the MacBook has an influnce on the iPhone


My answer to your question is no
 
Op you have poor reasoning skills.

The iPhone and ipad are two separate devices
this would be like assuming the MacBook has an influnce on the iPhone


My answer to your question is no

What? You have poor brain skills.

Yes they are separate devices. Did you know other phones have larger screens and some have smaller? It's just a forum discussing possibilities of a different screen size.

P.S. Yes Mac products to influence each other (connectivity, docking, apps, etc)

Back on topic - would be nice for a larger screen, that home button seems like an issue...
 
Well if it doesnt have a bigger screen I will be getting the new HD2 with android loaded, it has more memory and is faster than the HD2 :)
 
A hardware home button is necessary for DFU mode.

Yes. I also like the idea of the home button. However, Apple doesn't have to make an awkward circle shaped home button that takes up way too much room. They could easily make a rectangular shape just like every other touch screen phone does to maximize the room for the screen on the front. Also, they could easily take some of the wasted space by the speaker away.
 
I don't see Apple making the iPhone physically bigger. They went to great lengths to balance form factor, features, and pocketability, and I don't think they want to add even another 5-10% to the size.

I also don't see Apple adding to the screen resolution, not this year at least. The main reason to add resolution is to allow for a more complex UI (ie. more buttons on-screen). But the real limitation here is the size of the tip of your finger. This limits how small you can make on-screen buttons, which then limits the benefits of a higher rez. A higher rez will obviously look nicer, and Apple has started down the road of resolution-independence with the iPad, so in time I think they will go there with the iPhone, but not yet. They will let developers deal with the iPad first before burdening them with yet another hardware deviation to grapple with.

Greater resolution also increases processing and battery life demands.

The 4G iPhone may have other screen improvements (better backlighting, etc.), but not resolution this year, in my opinion.

And I don't see OLED coming this year. It still has a few glaring issues like lifespan and outdoor readability.
 
The iPhone needs to increase screen resolution before increasing screen size. Just a comparison:
Nexus One: 3.7" 800 x 480
HTC HD2: 4.3" 800x480
Nokia N900: 3.5" 800 x 480
iPhone: 3.5" 480 x 320

Need I say more? The increase in resolution is a god send when web browsing as well as when watching videos & pictures :).
 
Why do we need a home button - this can be replaced with a sensor - swipe the bottom and return to home screen - or smth like that

Although that would be pretty spiffy, I don't see Apple doing that. People already know the iphone as is. If they were going to do some sort of a change to the hardware like that the ipad SURELY wouldn't have one of those ridiculous home buttons. I think it's so strange to see it on an ipad, but oh well. That proves that the home button is here to stay

The iPhone needs to increase screen resolution before increasing screen size. Just a comparison:
Nexus One: 3.7" 800 x 480
HTC HD2: 4.3" 800x480
Nokia N900: 3.5" 800 x 480
iPhone: 3.5" 480 x 320

I think this is a given. If that doesn't happen on the next iphone, I'll eat my shorts!
 
home button on back AND

how about home button(hb) on back (which u access by touch...u dont have to see it) and the speaker grill on top bezel? OR how about you program the UI on glass to wraparound the hb at bottom and speaker grill at top with text or pic (u get another half inch on both ends!)

great to join all of u today
 
Bigger iphone would crowd the Ipad Space. Making Ipad bigger crowds mac space.

It's a double edged sword.
 
The iPhone needs to increase screen resolution before increasing screen size. Just a comparison:
Nexus One: 3.7" 800 x 480
HTC HD2: 4.3" 800x480
Nokia N900: 3.5" 800 x 480
iPhone: 3.5" 480 x 320

Need I say more? The increase in resolution is a god send when web browsing as well as when watching videos & pictures :).

I'm just not convinced that Apple will throw a THIRD screen resolution into the mix to further confound App Store developers this year. They already have the iPad to contend with. Resolution-independent apps are a brand-new and untested thing. I expect Apple to let the iPad sink in for a year, then perhaps roll out a higher-rez iPhone in 2011. I realize that will put them technically "behind" the competition on screen quality, but they have so much momentum otherwise that they won't hurt too much from it.
 
What? You have poor brain skills.

Yes they are separate devices. Did you know other phones have larger screens and some have smaller? It's just a forum discussing possibilities of a different screen size.

P.S. Yes Mac products to influence each other (connectivity, docking, apps, etc)

Back on topic - would be nice for a larger screen, that home button seems like an issue...

back on topic.. you're the one that took it personally

Lets look at your reasoning

because the Ipad has a larger screen the next iphone will have a larger screen

This is completely unfound, unpopular to the masses, would add no additional functional benefit , would cut down on battery life and portability

so yes you're reasoning was poor
 
back on topic.. you're the one that took it personally

Lets look at your reasoning

because the Ipad has a larger screen the next iphone will have a larger screen

This is completely unfound, unpopular to the masses, would add no additional functional benefit , would cut down on battery life and portability

so yes you're reasoning was poor


Look, i admire you if English is your second language but you are reading this wrong because i never said 'the iphone will have a larger screen because the ipad has'. It's not your insulting 'poor reasoning skills' to assume because apps can be designed for a higher res screen, that this is an area the iPhone could be improved upon. You're probably on another planet.

If you did read this thread correctly, stop contributing to a thread but being insulting with the added bonus of an idiot. Please check this site http://readingeggs.com/?gclid=CIyQwZSm3J8CFUsA4wodcE-SGg

'you have poor reasoning skills'. WTF ??? I addressed this already. Cut it out and let's get back to topic will ya?
 
Not true. The HTC HD2 is as thin as the iPhone and only a hair longer yet it has a 4.3 inch screen!!! It's so beautiful :)...Apple could easily give the new iPhone at least the same size screen or a little smaller to keep it nearly the same dimensions, here is a comparison picture:

htc-hd2-iphone-3g1.jpg

Vandam, I wholeheartedly agree. This size and resolution would be perfect, and the phone would still fit in my pocket. Does anybody else notice how Apple has increased their bezel sizes in all their products since 2001 (ibook->macbook, Ti powerbook-> macbook pro, iPhone 2G-> iPhone 3G(S)), while other companies reduce bezel size in laptops and smart phones? What's up with that? There must be somebody high up in the company with a fetish for old-fashioned digital photo frames...
 
I'm just not convinced that Apple will throw a THIRD screen resolution into the mix to further confound App Store developers this year. They already have the iPad to contend with. Resolution-independent apps are a brand-new and untested thing. I expect Apple to let the iPad sink in for a year, then perhaps roll out a higher-rez iPhone in 2011. I realize that will put them technically "behind" the competition on screen quality, but they have so much momentum otherwise that they won't hurt too much from it.

But the developers won't be required to modify their apps for the new resolution. The apps could run at the old resolution just as the old apps can run on the iPad. Applications are big business, and I'm sure many companies will welcome the extra resolution. They have incentives to modify their apps--they're getting money from them and are competing with other applications. I don't see why Apple has to defer the upgrade and make every developer wait just so that the slow ones can decide when they are ready.
 
back on topic.. you're the one that took it personally

Lets look at your reasoning

because the Ipad has a larger screen the next iphone will have a larger screen

This is completely unfound, unpopular to the masses, would add no additional functional benefit , would cut down on battery life and portability

so yes you're reasoning was poor

The OP has a valid point. A while back, I was also wondering myself if Apple was going to be restricted to the screen size/resolution that they originally chose for the iPhone forever because of all the applications that had already been created for that particular specification. But then they introduced the iPad and stated that they were able to 'pixel-double' the apps and make them run full-screen. The iPhone doesn't have to be larger to fit a larger screen; as others have stated, there's a lot of space by the ear piece and home button.
 
A 4" screen would be nice. Phones just can't afford to have bigger and bigger screens. It won't be portable one day and you won't be able to hold it to your ear. I guess we're going back to the brick-phone times. :D
 
I'm just not convinced that Apple will throw a THIRD screen resolution into the mix to further confound App Store developers this year. They already have the iPad to contend with. Resolution-independent apps are a brand-new and untested thing. I expect Apple to let the iPad sink in for a year, then perhaps roll out a higher-rez iPhone in 2011. I realize that will put them technically "behind" the competition on screen quality, but they have so much momentum otherwise that they won't hurt too much from it.

It would not be a big deal to increase the screen resulition to closer to the 800ishx400ish mark and keep the 3.5" screen. The phone can easily scale the apps up to the larger screen size since it does no real damage to distortions because everything is in the exact same ratio. For designing not hard either because it keeps the same scale. Design for a scale and it should not cause a problem.
 
It would not be a big deal to increase the screen resulition to closer to the 800ishx400ish mark and keep the 3.5" screen. The phone can easily scale the apps up to the larger screen size since it does no real damage to distortions because everything is in the exact same ratio. For designing not hard either because it keeps the same scale. Design for a scale and it should not cause a problem.

+1. If the iPad can scale iPhone apps to fit its screen, i don't see how a bigger iPhone screen will affect apps.
 
id love to see a 3.8" led front and have all apps use every piece of the screen , like the new tvs coming out! There is no boeder on them.:D
 
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