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ItHurtsWhenIP

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'Merica!
Apple is insane for charging $600-1200 for a tablet. Like...it's laughable. Samsung changes or at least changed models every year leaving their predecessor in the dirt with no further support. Every release was flinging poo at a wall and seeing what stuck. I don't even know who else makes a decent tablet nowadays.

What incentive is there to upgrade when they never introduce new features or bring prices down enough to warrant the upgrade? They charge a maximum while trying to upgrade the minimum they can get away with and it caught up. Sure, fanboys and those in the higher income brackets will always splurge on "luxury" gadgets, but normal people buy one and use it for as long as it still boots up, not upgrade it every year or two like a phone.

When my Tab Pro 8.4 was unsupported after less than a year because they switched to Tab S models, I rooted it and swore off Samsung (and basically tablets) for good. I still use it occasionally and it's plenty fast for media consumption. I refuse to believe any new tablet can do anything it does any better. It's expensive enough to upgrade phones every two years, the hell with upgrading a tablet they want laptop money for.
 

Shanghaichica

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Apple is insane for charging $600-1200 for a tablet. Like...it's laughable. Samsung changes or at least changed models every year leaving their predecessor in the dirt with no further support. Every release was flinging poo at a wall and seeing what stuck. I don't even know who else makes a decent tablet nowadays.

What incentive is there to upgrade when they never introduce new features or bring prices down enough to warrant the upgrade? They charge a maximum while trying to upgrade the minimum they can get away with and it caught up. Sure, fanboys and those in the higher income brackets will always splurge on "luxury" gadgets, but normal people buy one and use it for as long as it still boots up, not upgrade it every year or two like a phone.

When my Tab Pro 8.4 was unsupported after less than a year because they switched to Tab S models, I rooted it and swore off Samsung (and basically tablets) for good. I still use it occasionally and it's plenty fast for media consumption. I refuse to believe any new tablet can do anything it does any better. It's expensive enough to upgrade phones every two years, the hell with upgrading a tablet they want laptop money for.
Apple charge a lot for their iPads but you get years of software support and excellent after sales care.
 

5105973

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I was intrigued by android tablets for years and my husband does own a couple of them but other than his older Nexus one that we could still upgrade to Marsmallow and still looks and works beautifully, most of the ones we passed over didn't have the nice displays or design and build quality of our iPads. They just didn't seem to build anything with the same wow factor as top of the line Android phones. When they did, they wouldn't support them past a year, as others on this thread have pointed out.

But I don't think tablets will die, either. They will just hybridize with more desktop OS functions and add ons that can make them function like laptops. I just got a hand me down Microsoft Surface 4 yesterday and I love it. It's bulkier than my iPad but can do more and has a bit more luck rendering problematic web pages (like Sansung's home page) than my iPad mini 4 does. I do think there is a risk plain tablets that can't morph physically into something more useful or more portable will end up consigned to mere ebook readers or media playback devices like Kindles.
 
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Michael Goff

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Apple is insane for charging $600-1200 for a tablet. Like...it's laughable. Samsung changes or at least changed models every year leaving their predecessor in the dirt with no further support. Every release was flinging poo at a wall and seeing what stuck. I don't even know who else makes a decent tablet nowadays.

What incentive is there to upgrade when they never introduce new features or bring prices down enough to warrant the upgrade? They charge a maximum while trying to upgrade the minimum they can get away with and it caught up. Sure, fanboys and those in the higher income brackets will always splurge on "luxury" gadgets, but normal people buy one and use it for as long as it still boots up, not upgrade it every year or two like a phone.

When my Tab Pro 8.4 was unsupported after less than a year because they switched to Tab S models, I rooted it and swore off Samsung (and basically tablets) for good. I still use it occasionally and it's plenty fast for media consumption. I refuse to believe any new tablet can do anything it does any better. It's expensive enough to upgrade phones every two years, the hell with upgrading a tablet they want laptop money for.

The iPad 2 got three years of support. The iPad Air 2 is likely to get longer than that. That's why Apple can change a premium, they support their tablets for a pretty good amount of time. The only company that does better is Microsoft, but that's because their tablets are pretty much laptops in tablet form.
 
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I have seen bendable screens since 2011 CES just like I saw augmented reality for Sekai Camera in 2008. When Samsung officially announced YOUM in 2013, they showed the features of the Galaxy Note edge released in late-2014 before going dual edge with the S6 edge last year. Edge phones basically have flexible screens.

We can wait 3-5+ years before we see the concept come to fruition. Foldable screens could change the game for future tablets, phablets, exercise bands, and smart watches. Google should just offer a Chromebook and Android tablet hybrid. I want to see 2 in 1 hybrids but have the detachable tablet is foldable.

 

TheRealAlex

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There is pretty much another nail in the coffin for the declining tablet market and perhaps we will never ever see a successor to the Shield K1 tablet after all. :(

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/08/11/nvidia-shield-2-tablet-cancelled
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/11/rumored-follow-nvidia-shield-tablet-k1-cancelled

I am very very sad that that tablet market is dying and will pretty much be non existent and dead in about 5 years time just like the netbooks. :( :(

I really love tablets especially the iPads and definitely prefer using tablets as my computer then a laptop but I don't want to think that I am going have to use a laptop again in 5 years time because I really really hate using laptops, tablets are perfect for me!!

The tablet market is pretty much DEAD!! :(

So people What do you think about tablets like the iPads and Pixel C?? Do you still like and use tablets?? And Do you think tablets are dying and will be non existent and dead in about 5 years just like the netbooks?? I really hope not but it is looking that way at the moment with the tablets sales/shipments and growth declining badly!! :( :(

R.I.P NVIDIA SHIELD TABLET! :(



#1. Probably an NVIDIA deal with NINTENDO since the New Nintendo NX will be some type of Gaming Tablet with Controllers powered by NVIDIA chips with a home TV docking station when home.
#2. There NO mobile games which require the power Unlike my iPad Pro 9.7 which has a Smart Connector, Quad Speakers and a smart stylus Apple Pen those are new features that no tablet can match. vs a $299 Shield 2 which a $450 tablet can do 90% of what an expensive tablet can do.
#3. Look for tablets to Separate feature wise, Some can do things others Can not.
 
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gotluck

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Apple is insane for charging $600-1200 for a tablet. Like...it's laughable. Samsung changes or at least changed models every year leaving their predecessor in the dirt with no further support. Every release was flinging poo at a wall and seeing what stuck. I don't even know who else makes a decent tablet nowadays.

What incentive is there to upgrade when they never introduce new features or bring prices down enough to warrant the upgrade? They charge a maximum while trying to upgrade the minimum they can get away with and it caught up. Sure, fanboys and those in the higher income brackets will always splurge on "luxury" gadgets, but normal people buy one and use it for as long as it still boots up, not upgrade it every year or two like a phone.

When my Tab Pro 8.4 was unsupported after less than a year because they switched to Tab S models, I rooted it and swore off Samsung (and basically tablets) for good. I still use it occasionally and it's plenty fast for media consumption. I refuse to believe any new tablet can do anything it does any better. It's expensive enough to upgrade phones every two years, the hell with upgrading a tablet they want laptop money for.

There are good sales on new iPads in USA. Especially if you don't care about latest gen. Less reason to upgrade means all the more reason to buy on sale. believe iPad air2s are sub 300 for 16gig wifi recently, maybe it was $350 can't remember.

I'm still on air gen 1, and use it everyday. I will probably upgrade when the next mini with force touch has a good sale.

Agreed wrt Samsung tablet support, I will never buy a Samsung tab because of it. Will consider Nexus/pixel though for sure.
 
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The Game 161

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i think i may give the tab S3 a go for the smaller verison depending on what it brings. my ipad pro 12.9 will be my main tablet for quite a long time. won't need upgrading and costs too much to upgrade alot.
 
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tbayrgs

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They may not abandon it, to be sure, but sales of iPads are anemic

While iPad sales certainly aren't growing, I wouldn't call 10 million units a quarter or 40+ million a year, generating revenue likely in the $15-20 billion range anemic. I bet an awful lot of companies wish their sales were that anemic. ;)
 

Shanghaichica

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i think i may give the tab S3 a go for the smaller verison depending on what it brings. my ipad pro 12.9 will be my main tablet for quite a long time. won't need upgrading and costs too much to upgrade alot.
I wish they would go back to 16:9 for the tab 3. The iPad is great at 4:3 but android tablets used to be great for watching videos and Rubbish for everything else. Now that they are going to 4:3 they don't have any real advantages.
 

nStyle

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Laptop is still pretty much better for everything - even lounging. I use my 13" rMBP in bed, on the couch, outside, wherever. It's faster, bigger screen, more functional, has a permanent "stand" and keyboard attached (and not finicky), so it just makes sense 90% of the time. Granted, you have to have your knees propped up in bed but I'm not that lazy :)
 

viskon

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With the success of the Note 7,I'm hoping Samsung bring back the Note Tablet. I've been dabbling in the stock market lately and the s-pen on the larger screen (I've got a Note 10.1 2012) makes it so much easier to annotate trend lines, supports and resistances.
 
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They may not abandon it, to be sure, but sales of iPads are anemic

Im surprised to hear this from you.

Tablets will be here for a long time. Just not going to see people upgrading from year to year.

I dont know what the fuss is over foldable displays. Its of zero interest to me.
 
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willmtaylor

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Why??
ipad sales have been shrinking for years, Cook knows this and he's been struggling to find a way to turn the decreasing sales.
Here be those pesky facts:
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That Q3 amounts to $4.9 billion in Q3 2016.

Less than 2013? Sure.
"Anemic?" IMHO, not exactly.

And just for some perspective:
  • Apple's iPad Revenue - $4.9 billion (iPad revenue alone)
  • Facebook's entire Revenue - $6.4 billion
 
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bufffilm

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Why??
ipad sales have been shrinking for years, Cook knows this and he's been struggling to find a way to turn the decreasing sales.

It has been shrinking, but revenue the last quarter has gone up due to the Pro 9.7 higher price tag (over the air2).
 
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maflynn

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Here be those pesky facts:
I know what you mean, here's more pesky facts:
iPad Declines Yet Again Amid Worst Tablet Quarter Since 2012

so yes, Anemic in comparison to what Apple has done, and expect.

It has been shrinking, but revenue the last quarter has gone up due to the Pro 9.7 higher price tag (over the air2).
I'm talking over all sales, and I understand the iPad is very profitable, but the sales are not somethign that Apple is happy about as its continuing to slide.
 

Ffosse

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The only decent tablets are iPads, the occasional Sony and perhaps one other.

Android is pretty much crap on almost all tablets.
 
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bufffilm

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I know what you mean, here's more pesky facts:
iPad Declines Yet Again Amid Worst Tablet Quarter Since 2012

so yes, Anemic in comparison to what Apple has done, and expect.


I'm talking over all sales, and I understand the iPad is very profitable, but the sales are not somethign that Apple is happy about as its continuing to slide.

I agree that the market will continue to shrink overall, but the iPad will do decently.

The real problem is with lack of software support /iOS features from Apple's side.
 
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ShaunAFC3

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I don't even know who else makes a decent tablet nowadays.

Apple make very top quality tablets which is the iPad and Samsung with there high end Tab S series tablets!! :) :D
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i think i may give the tab S3 a go for the smaller verison depending on what it brings.

I am in the same boat as you, I think I might try the new Tab S3 8.0 the smaller version. :)

My current Android tablet is the Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 which I still use occasionally mainly when I have my iPad Air 2 in repairs.

But my main tablet is the iPad Air 2 which definitely won't be replaced by the Tab S3 if I get it.

But if I do get the Tab S3 the smaller version(8.0) it will most probably be a back up to my iPad Air 2 when that breaks/goes something wrong and it will be used when I am out and about of the house like in college at breaks and on the bus and in the car.

So my IPad Air 2 will still be my main tablet that will be used in the house and on holidays mainly haha! :)
 
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