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NVIDIA trying to win back Macs?? Is it possible?

This is credible?

  • Oh yeah -mr. kool aid's voice-

    Votes: 9 24.3%

  • MAYYYYBEEEEE.....iffy.

    Votes: 13 35.1%

  • Naw....delusional.

    Votes: 15 40.5%
  • Total voters
    37
Apple and nVidia working together. A couple of Pascal 1080s in the 7,1 with solid drivers and enough power/cooling to run at full throttle. Why does something so apparently simple sound like pure fantasy? WTF?

A company with Apple's resources should be able to make iPhones, chew gum and make state of the art Macs at the same time. As the cell phone hardware profit machine slows down, wouldn't it be nice to have a computer division that keeps chugging along making consistent, albeit lower, margins? The myopia is mind boggling.
 
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Blair Paulsen said:
Apple and nVidia working together. A couple of Pascal 1080s in the 7,1 with solid drivers and enough power/cooling to run at full throttle. Why does something so apparently simple sound like pure fantasy? WTF?

A company with Apple's resources should be able to make iPhones, chew gum and make state of the art Macs at the same time. As the cell phone hardware profit machine slows down, wouldn't it be nice to have a computer division that keeps chugging along making consistent, albeit lower, margins? The myopia is mind boggling.
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It's not courage enough. It's discourage according Apple's standard.
 
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
Companies that compete against each other in various sectors and sometimes sue each other won't always work together, especially if the latter company has issues producing quality drivers that don't crash apps.
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I know you probably still have me on ignore, but you do realize that most/all of the reported issues have been fixed in the latest drivers, right?

Here's what I think is happening: Adobe makes changes on their side (e.g. enable an entirely new Metal back end). They do not test the web drivers, nor do they test with Maxwell cards. So, they release stuff that causes problems for people using web drivers. Eventually NVIDIA hears about those problems, and then updates their drivers with a fix. Would it be better if Adobe and NVIDIA worked more closely so that these issues could be avoided? Sure. However, I'm not entirely sure what NVIDIA can do purely on their side with no assistance from Adobe.

Similar thing for that third-party FCPX addon that someone was complaining about. The developer of that obviously isn't testing with the web driver or a Maxwell card, so something breaks. Eventually NVIDIA hears about it, and releases a fix for the problem. That seems like a pretty reasonable process for "beta support" which you keep harping on about.
 
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Just out of curiosity, does Sierra support maxwell/pascal cards at all on the stock drivers?
 
MacGamver said:
Just out of curiosity, does Sierra support maxwell/pascal cards at all on the stock drivers?
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No. You have to install Nvidia Web Drivers to have beta support for Maxwell GPUs and no support for Pascal at all.
 
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
No, in fact Apple has stripped the Maxwell out of the newest Nvidia drivers they have.
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Wow. I totally understand Apple not supporting hardware they never sold, but going out of their way to remove improved compatibility seems actively hostile.

I guess it doesn't really matter to me. With the end of slots and bays in Macs, I'm on my last Mac. It will be a Windows PC for me some day. Also you and others keep pointing out how everything is faster there anyway.
 
ActionableMango said:
Wow. I totally understand Apple not supporting hardware they never sold, but going out of their way to remove improved compatibility seems actively hostile.

I guess it doesn't really matter to me. With the end of slots and bays in Macs, I'm on my last Mac. It will be a Windows PC for me some day. Also you and others keep pointing out how everything is faster there anyway.
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I've been an Apple/Mac guy forever, but I've been liking their decisions less and less every year. The thing that got them into big trouble and near extinction in the past was stubborn insistence on proprietary nonsense in lieu of INDUSTRY STANDARDS. I might just build a Hackintosh when I need to replace my cMP.
 
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Hmmmm...

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jeff7117 said:
1080ti. Should be awesome on a windows machine. And as for the mac, oh wait, we still don't have drivers for the 10 series cards...
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Also awesome on a Linux machine.

Apple OSX - not so much. Actually, not at all.

With aggressive pricing, Nvidia can destroy Vega long before it even ships with the 1080Ti announcement. (...and the 980Ti was by far the "bang for the buck" in the Maxwell line)

(And, in spite of the glowing posts from ATI fans, Vega and Zen are still vaporware. Nothing shipping, a never-ending series of "latest steppings" to fix the killer bugs in the previous chips. When will hyper-threading work on Zen?)
 
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It will be big, but nothing to do with Mac Pro:

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/100819-nvidia-teasing-something-big-ces-keynote/
The official Nvidia line about what will be revealed and discussed at the pre CES keynote is "the industry's most exciting tech unveilings in artificial intelligence (AI), self-driving cars, and gaming". Scroll down that page further and you will see Nvidia will have a presence at the Automotive Innovation outdoor area. Furthermore, it will have a representative on the Artificial Intelligence: Real Business Opportunities discussion panel.
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AidenShaw said:
Also awesome on a Linux machine.

Apple OSX - not so much. Actually, not at all.

With aggressive pricing, Nvidia can destroy Vega long before it even ships with the 1080Ti announcement. (...and the 980Ti was by far the "bang for the buck" in the Maxwell line)

(And, in spite of the glowing posts from ATI fans, Vega and Zen are still vaporware. Nothing shipping, a never-ending series of "latest steppings" to fix the killer bugs in the previous chips. When will hyper-threading work on Zen?)
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Doh man there are several hardware tests of Zen, hyperthreading and overlooking already published online in the last month. It doesn't help your arguments if you aren't aware of them. The product line is now called Ryzen. The results are showing pretty good value/performance ratio and there have been 5Ghz overlock turbo on the single core. With a final mobo we will get more results soon.

I'm an Intel man all day, but put it this way...why would you want to pay $4G for an 8 core Intel Mac Pro when you can pay much less for the AMD version?
 
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
Doh man there are several hardware tests of Zen, hyperthreading and overlooking already published online in the last month. It doesn't help your arguments if you aren't aware of them. The product line is now called Ryzen. The results are showing pretty good value/performance ratio and there have been 5Ghz overlock turbo on the single core. With a final mobo we will get more results soon.

I'm an Intel man all day, but put it this way...why would you want to pay $4G for an 8 core Intel Mac Pro when you can pay much less for the AMD version?
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CPUs have nothing to do with Nvidia.

Lets wait and see what Nvidia will show. The better products end users get, the better for market.
 
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