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fiatlux

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I was recently quoted $487 for an AngelShark board, it isn't a particularly economical mod.
That's a much better deal than what some charge on eBay for it (749€!) but still does not make much sense compared to SSDs in an external TB enclosure.
 

vb7200

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Jul 21, 2014
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I think Apple made abundantly clear that the future of the Mac is Apple Silicon. They totally ignored the Mac Pro during the keynote today (when they showed "all Macs" it was not there) and prematurely axed macOS support for Macs sold new less than 3 years ago. So I've decided the 6,1 will be my last Intel Mac. It really sucks for the people who spent big bucks on a 7,1. I bet macOS will totally drop Intel support in just a few years.

However, with Apple Silicon following a much faster development pace I think it would be a waste to spend big bucks on a 1st gen M1 Mac also. It would probably be smart to go for a low-end Studio until the high-end M2 chips arrive.
I would be extremely mad if I spent 50 grand or whatever a maxed out 7,1 is only for it to be dropped after 6 years.
 

loby

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Jul 1, 2010
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My 6,1 is pretty sluggish on 12.6. I don't know if it's the software update, the CPU card they've replaced twice now, or something else Apple did to it. I sent my advisor an email yesterday and it looks like I'm being ignored now. Apple hates the 6,1.
After about Ten years now with 6,1, Apple wants everyone to “move on”.
It became a “thorn in their side” and now the thorn has been removed…

The Mac Studio replaces it currently and the next M Mac Pro will probably be so overwhelming in speed (and cost) that the 6,1 will literally be a “trash can” in comparison now.

But..I still like mine and will use it until it dies. It is stuck on macOs Monterey, but had a good run in OS’s.

I am not sure what is “the best” OS for mac pro 6,1 to “go out into the pasture” on now as far as for best speed and performance, but macOS Monterey seems “decent” to me…
 

mattspace

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The Mac Studio replaces it currently and the next M Mac Pro will probably be so overwhelming in speed (and cost) that the 6,1 will literally be a “trash can” in comparison now.

By "overwhelming" speed, you mean the performance of a $1500 GPU, as opposed to the Mac Studio, which offers the performance of a ~$600-800GPU?
 

loby

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By "overwhelming" speed, you mean the performance of a $1500 GPU, as opposed to the Mac Studio, which offers the performance of a ~$600-800GPU?
My “thought” is Apple has to “Wow” the masses with the next Mac Pro. They skipped (as rumored) releasing it in July or showcasing it with a high end M1-M2 configuration, so they might be waiting for a big power and speed system release to make the Mac Studio look like just an updated Mac mini.

And..with an eye watering, selling your soul cost to pay for it…
 

avro707

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Dec 13, 2010
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After about Ten years now with 6,1, Apple wants everyone to “move on”.
It became a “thorn in their side” and now the thorn has been removed…

The Mac Studio replaces it currently and the next M Mac Pro will probably be so overwhelming in speed (and cost) that the 6,1 will literally be a “trash can” in comparison now.

But..I still like mine and will use it until it dies. It is stuck on macOs Monterey, but had a good run in OS’s.

I am not sure what is “the best” OS for mac pro 6,1 to “go out into the pasture” on now as far as for best speed and performance, but macOS Monterey seems “decent” to me…
You are stuck on the currently available MacOS, so that's still okay considering the age of the machine. People are still using even older 4,1 and 5,1 Mac Pros which are also "stuck" on Monterey, or at one stage looking like being stuck on Big Sur even.

Monterey works fine on my 6,1 - which is the top spec model.

I couldn't wait for Apple to make up its mind on what the next Mac Pro would be and I wanted windows compatibility, so I went for the 7,1 - it is a great computer.

Unfortunately the guy on here running around saying that they are unwanted, going cheap, etc, he was totally wrong, they are still expensive second hand so I ended up spending a lot of money buying a brand new 7,1 - and it has met the expectations.

It actually runs Windows 11 faster than MacOS.
 
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TobiasT

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I couldn't wait for Apple to make up its mind on what the next Mac Pro would be and I wanted windows compatibility, so I went for the 7,1 - it is a great computer.

It is going to be very very painful when Apple releases the Apple-Silicon MP. You bought a Mac that is already dead for Apple. I hope you bought it dirty cheap.
 

loby

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You are stuck on the currently available MacOS, so that's still okay considering the age of the machine. People are still using even older 4,1 and 5,1 Mac Pros which are also "stuck" on Monterey, or at one stage looking like being stuck on Big Sur even.

Monterey works fine on my 6,1 - which is the top spec model.

I couldn't wait for Apple to make up its mind on what the next Mac Pro would be and I wanted windows compatibility, so I went for the 7,1 - it is a great computer.

Unfortunately the guy on here running around saying that they are unwanted, going cheap, etc, he was totally wrong, they are still expensive second hand so I ended up spending a lot of money buying a brand new 7,1 - and it has met the expectations.

It actually runs Windows 11 faster than MacOS.
It is very popular on these forums to say that Intel Macs are "trash" etc., but I have found that not to be true. Yes, I prefer Apple Silicon, but Intel Macs have their place, especially if you have to use Windows for anything. For some applications and usage, Intel Mac do better than Apple Silicone (like maybe gaming) and in some specialized industries.

Mac Pro 7,1 is an excellent Mac.

Users who "don't" have one usually are the ones who say it is not good or a waste of money etc. I don't expect Apple to just drop support for it and will (I think) continue to sell it even after the Apple M series Mac Pro comes out, at least until sales numbers tell them to stop. Would I buy one? No...but if I did...I would not regret it.

The next Mac Pro "might" not be as modular or upgradable as Mac Pro 7,1. Apple might be "rethinking" the Mac Pro again and something else might come out that is not like Mac Pro 7,1, but instead a whole new concept. Remember..Apple has accurate sales data now and "does" collect usage data from their Macs...(not like Windows "phone home" setup, but they still get info.). So we will just have to see.

Being "stuck" on Monterey is not that bad really. Mac Pro 6,1 runs decent on Monterey. We will still have two more years of updates, so my Mac Pro 6,1 has (had) a good run (for me at least, since 2016). I also found that Macs generally run Windows much better than PCs respectively. My application for Windows apps has decreased dramatically these last few years, so I look forward to an Apple Silicon only world.

But if I had a Mac Pro 7,1, I would be happy with that two. :)
 

Kimmo

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I guess I could understand Apple knee-capping the Mac Pro 5,1 and 6,1 machines if there was an Apple Silicon Mac Pro available for purchase.

Knee-capping my trusty, old Mac Pro while I'm patiently waiting for the Apple Silicon version is more than a little bit annoying.

Annoying good customers isn't a good business practice.

Tim Cook's public email is tcook@apple.com.
 

avro707

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It is going to be very very painful when Apple releases the Apple-Silicon MP. You bought a Mac that is already dead for Apple. I hope you bought it dirty cheap.
No, I didn't - I spent over $15,000 for a brand new one because it was absolutely necessary at the time and fits my requirements. When it is needed for work you don't get a choice. The alternative was a workstation PC.

The Apple Silicon rumoured Mac Pro does not meet my requirements and I will not be buying one no matter how many times you try to spread the pro-Apple Silicon word.

How many Mac Pro models do you have, or none at all?
 
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MisterAndrew

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No, I didn't - I spent over $15,000 for a brand new one because it was absolutely necessary at the time and fits my requirements. When it is needed for work you don't get a choice. The alternative was a workstation PC.

The Apple Silicon rumoured Mac Pro does not meet my requirements and I will not be buying one no matter how many times you try to spread the pro-Apple Silicon word.

How many Mac Pro models do you have, or none at all?
They claimed to have at least one Mac Pro model in 2019 (a 6,1). #5 Looking through their posts they have trash talked the 7,1 since it was released.
 
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