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aleni

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what!? no firewire? no user replaceable battery? and 1 usb port???? no purchase!!!!!!
 

aleni

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Thanks for your infinite wisdom, useless of course but we thank you for contributing to the wrong thread.

i own a macbook air and i was just being sarcastic to people who were whining the macbook air when it was born. and looking at this thread seems a lot of people love the air. and that includes me. :D

cheers mate! :D
 

shokunin

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Jun 7, 2005
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I kinda figured I would get a reply like that and that would be the case.... I just love OSX over windows, but for basic needs - I quess netbook is the way to go..

Can anyone suggest one? most I have seen had reviews about being super slow or breaking easy... No one local to me sells them, so I would have to order online; and I am one who would rather play or see something before I buy.

Are there any touch/tablet style?

If I had too (which I really would not want to), I would maybe consider something running vista so that I could make use of it like a journal for taking notes while I am out (just scribble on the screen). this is not a priority, just handy. Or if it could run the livescribe desktop - then I would just get a journal for my pulse pen and upload my pen to the netbook.

I'd probably go with the Lenovo IdeaPad S10. The IdeaPad even has an expresscard slot, although in the US it only ships with a 3-cell battery, while in other countries a 6 cell is offered. As a previous owner of a MBA, I don't think they are rugged enough to just "throw it in your bag". The hinges can be broken rather easily and I'd rather not have to worry about a $1500+ notebook. Besides, the footprint is rather large compared to a netbook. The netbooks are smaller and the keyboards need getting used to. The MBA won't have that problem, great screen, great keyboard, but expensive.

Most netbooks can be made in to Hackintoshes depending on your level of willingness to swap some parts (Wifi Card on MSI Wind) and your comfort of navigating through terminal. MSI Wind, Dell Mini 9, and Lenovo IdeaPad S10 seen quite popular. I'll probably hold out and see if someone makes a reasonably priced netbook using the Atom 330 dual core instead of the single-cores used today.
 

AAPLaday

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The macbook air is a glimpse of what the all laptops will be like in the future. With usb drives becoming larger and cheaper by the month i cant wait till we get rid of the ageing CD.
 

aleni

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Alright!

Mines in Anchorage AK now! Expected AZ delivery date of 11/3/08.

Sweet!

OMG! you lucky! please run 2 instances of the "yes dev null" thing, and watch youtube for a hour and report back here.

hope they fix the damn heat issues.
 

Maven1975

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Aug 24, 2008
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I will run everything and post back with the results. I have rescheduled my appointments for Monday so I can get everything up and running.

I am upgrading from a 1.8 SSD Ver. 1, to the 1.86 SSD Ver. 2. This will be very interesting. The thought of running Half Life 2 on the Air makes my pants tingle. :D
 

lechuga

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Oct 29, 2008
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Pardon the ignorance, but what is this yes dev null thing? and how do you run it?

kthx

Same here. What is this issue all of you are talking about? I've ignored the AIR until now.. (which btw, says 'Prepared for shipment')..

Is this a heating problem you guys are talking about? Any forums you might want to point us to?
 

aleni

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Pardon the ignorance, but what is this yes dev null thing? and how do you run it?

kthx

i forgot the command so i just said the "yes dev null thing".

just now i searched the forum and found the correct command.

you run terminal, and then type yes > /dev /null and enter, and then you open new tab in the terminal, and type that again and enter.

those commands will use 100% cpu and make the system works hard so it will get hot.

that command is often used for testing purposes of the macbook air.. if it can run for hours without the machine slowing down then it's good and doesn't have the heat problem unlike the majority of us have.
 

aleni

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I will run everything and post back with the results. I have rescheduled my appointments for Monday so I can get everything up and running.

I am upgrading from a 1.8 SSD Ver. 1, to the 1.86 SSD Ver. 2. This will be very interesting. The thought of running Half Life 2 on the Air makes my pants tingle. :D

sweet! or better try playing half-life 2 for a hour or two, and please please please it will not get overheat and starts slowing down. i just can pray, but i believe that apple has fixed the heat issue in this second revision since they use the 45nm processor which uses only 17 watts compared to the previous custom made santa-rosa chip which uses 20 watts.

does the 3 watts difference makes so much? i don't know, anyone can explain with statistic for watts vs temp of these chips will be much appreciated.

thanks..
 

shokunin

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Jun 7, 2005
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sweet! or better try playing half-life 2 for a hour or two, and please please please it will not get overheat and starts slowing down. i just can pray, but i believe that apple has fixed the heat issue in this second revision since they use the 45nm processor which uses only 17 watts compared to the previous custom made santa-rosa chip which uses 20 watts.

does the 3 watts difference makes so much? i don't know, anyone can explain with statistic for watts vs temp of these chips will be much appreciated.

thanks..

The 17w and 20w are typically TDP and maximum power consumption. And yes, 3w can make quite a difference. What is not provided is the thermal profile. At 20% utilization the older 65nm chip could be at 7watts, but the new chip at 3w, and so on. So 3w doesn't seem like a big deal, I suspect much like the desktop chips that moved from 65nm to 45nm that the power savings and heat dissipation was quite a bit lower, even at idle. However, the bump up in FSB (800 vs 1066) usually comes with more heat. Maybe two steps forward, two steps back...

I'd be more interested in how the new nVidia integrated graphics and Snow Leopard improvements performance over Rev A's X3100 graphics.
 

aleni

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thanks for the helpful explanation, but i'm more concerned about the heat rather than the computing improvement since the current generation of MBA has heat issue that makes the computer not running on its full capacity.

i'm afraid the bumped up FSB might actually adds heat even with the lower 45nm cpu, it's still give the heat just like the current MBA, so if there is the same heat exists in the next gen MBA plus the more capable graphic which is adding more heat than the previous under powered X3100 (in a logical way of thinking that the less-powered X3100 chip must be cooler in comparison with the new much powerful 9400M). then i'm afraid we're doomed! same heat like the current MBA plus more heat from 9400M!.

unless NVIDIA is making a great manufacturing process which makes the 9400M much more powerful than the X3100 but lower in temperature than the intel one.

oh boy, all i can do is pray.
 
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