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Fravin

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Probably going to grab a Nikon Z50 with the dual lens kit. There's a decent 50mm and 250mm lens with it which is one more lens that I had with the D3100. The price is reasonable. It may fill a hole in my heart.

Take a look at Fujifilm's offerings. Their cameras are awesome an the lens aren't pricy as Nikon ones, and offers jaw dropping image quality.
 

squawk7000

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For what it is worth, my use is a hybrid of the phone and the big camera.

often if I’m out for a walk or in town, I will see something and grab a shot with the iphone.
Other times I have an image in mind, but not sure it will work and so scout it out and prototype it with the iPhone. that lets me review my idea to see if it works and what sort of lens I would use. Then revisit with the big camera.

Other times i will take the big camera and a couple of lenses and make a day of it.

probably a strange way of working but that’s me.
 

Fravin

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Other times I have an image in mind, but not sure it will work and so scout it out and prototype it with the iPhone. that lets me review my idea to see if it works and what sort of lens I would use. Then revisit with the big camera.


That works for me too. I like to shoot landscapes. And I prefer to walk through trails in cloudy days looking for spots to shoot on sunny days. And I use the iPhone to keep records of the spots I choose testing how it would be in my camera.

Just for information, my set is a Fujifilm XT3 + Laowa 9mm f2.8 + Fuji 18mm f1.4 + Fuji 35mm f1.4 + Fuji 50mm f1 and Fuji 70-300.
And this is what I like to shoot:

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Clix Pix

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For what it is worth, my use is a hybrid of the phone and the big camera.

often if I’m out for a walk or in town, I will see something and grab a shot with the iphone.
Other times I have an image in mind, but not sure it will work and so scout it out and prototype it with the iPhone. that lets me review my idea to see if it works and what sort of lens I would use. Then revisit with the big camera.

Other times i will take the big camera and a couple of lenses and make a day of it.

probably a strange way of working but that’s me.

I do this, too! My iPhone is always with me, whereas the dedicated cameras are not, and if I'm out and spot something intriguing I'll pull out the iPhone and take a shot or two. At home, sometimes I'll get an idea that I think could be an interesting photo, so I'll first test things out with the iPhone to see if the idea is feasible in the first place. There have been times when I haven't even bothered to move on to the larger camera, either because I liked what I saw with the iPhone or because the iPhone quickly showed me that this idea just wasn't going to work out.

My favorite thing to do is to just go out and not have anything specific in mind, just see what I find out there in the neighborhood and around the lake. Other times I'll pack up the camera and two or three lenses and head out somewhere for a few hours of shooting.

I love the shooting piece of this; not so fond of the post-processing end of things!
 

Pandyone

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Sep 30, 2021
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It really was exceptional considering it was introduced 12 years ago now!

Technology is constantly evolving, but there are generally marginal improvements and fine-tuning when it comes to cameras, especially when it comes to amateur/hobby equipment. I am often amazed when I look back at almost 10 year old mobile pictures, I would still consider them good. And some of my DSLR photos from 10+ years are awesome.

One comment really hit home and that was for the joy of it and I think that might have actually sold it for me at the end.

This is the way to think about it, just enjoy the technology and use it for the best.
 

nastysailboat

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May 7, 2021
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Thing I found with the D3100 was lots of light, so take photos on a sunny day. The camera was quite frankly completely under-reviewed. My father, an ex-professional photographer, was absolutely shocked that it was knocking on the door of his full frame DSLR.

Couple more from it

Clacton beach in Essex (horrible place but you can make it look nice with some B&W :) )

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More Kew Gardens ...

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It really was exceptional considering it was introduced 12 years ago now!
Man. I’m gonna have to brake mine out next week and get some shots. These are great maybe I just didn’t give it enough of a chance. I’m more a video guy than a photographer these day. What kinda glass are you using on them?
 
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Danfango

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Take a look at Fujifilm's offerings. Their cameras are awesome an the lens aren't pricy as Nikon ones, and offers jaw dropping image quality.

Looked at that but I need the weather sealing
Man. I’m gonna have to brake mine out next week and get some shots. These are great maybe I just didn’t give it enough of a chance. I’m more a video guy than a photographer these day. What kinda glass are you using on them?
was using the provided cheap ass 50mm lens. Nothing more. I was broke when I bought it ?
 

Darmok N Jalad

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Sep 26, 2017
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Tanagra (not really)
Looked at that but I need the weather sealing

was using the provided cheap ass 50mm lens. Nothing more. I was broke when I bought it ?
OM/Olympus has arguably the best weathersealing out there, at least so I’ve heard from various photographers in forums that take adventure trips where water is involved. Dump water on them if you’d like, they don’t seem to mind. Some Fuji’s are WR, but I hear mixed results on it from those same adventurous types. I think one guy said he’ll kayak with his EM1, and it will be sitting in the bottom of the kayak basically sitting in a puddle, and he doesn’t think anything of it.
 

OldMacs4Me

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May 4, 2018
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OM/Olympus has arguably the best weathersealing out there, at least so I’ve heard from various photographers in forums that take adventure trips where water is involved. Dump water on them if you’d like, they don’t seem to mind. Some Fuji’s are WR, but I hear mixed results on it from those same adventurous types. I think one guy said he’ll kayak with his EM1, and it will be sitting in the bottom of the kayak basically sitting in a puddle, and he doesn’t think anything of it.
I think Olympus might be a great choice for the OP as he expressed concern about weight, and many Oly's are decidedly lighter than full frame.
 
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OneSon

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OM/Olympus has arguably the best weathersealing out there, at least so I’ve heard from various photographers in forums that take adventure trips where water is involved. Dump water on them if you’d like, they don’t seem to mind. Some Fuji’s are WR, but I hear mixed results on it from those same adventurous types. I think one guy said he’ll kayak with his EM1, and it will be sitting in the bottom of the kayak basically sitting in a puddle, and he doesn’t think anything of it.
Agree. I use an Olympus OM-D and it's a wonderful little camera. The weather resistant bodies are the EM5 and EM1 range. The EM10 is NOT.
 

mollyc

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i have two z cameras and they are a joy to use. they are also weather sealed but i don’t know about the z50 in that regard.
 
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ian87w

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Thanks all for the suggestions. I have a spreadsheet of cameras going now.

I initially went for the Nikon in mind because there’s a service centre near me so if it goes wrong I can go and be a Karen:)
Cool. Most Nikon cameras use Sony sensors anyway, so imo it's probably great. :D
Personally, I would put more budget into the lenses rather than the body, ie a less expensive body for better lenses.
 
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r.harris1

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Cool. Most Nikon cameras use Sony sensors anyway, so imo it's probably great. :D
Personally, I would put more budget into the lenses rather than the body, ie a less expensive body for better lenses.
Made generally to a Nikon design of course, whether Nikon is using Sony or the former Tower or Aptina fabs, which they've used a lot too. And Sony uses Nikon steppers to make at least some of their sensors. Gotta love the incestuous world of camera making :D

It is fun to go look at photonstophots.net at the DR responses of cameras that use Sony's 3.76 pixel pitch sensors as the basis for their systems: Phase One IQ4 150, Fuji GFX 100, Sony A7R IV, Fuji XT3. With the exception of the Phase camera, the responses are "similarly shaped" but you get a sense of the engineering that different manufacturers put into what happens both before and after the light is collected on the silicon, Phase again being more noticeable.

But yes, use that cash for lenses where you can if you need to make those choices!
 

Darmok N Jalad

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Sep 26, 2017
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Thanks all for the suggestions. I have a spreadsheet of cameras going now.

I initially went for the Nikon in mind because there’s a service centre near me so if it goes wrong I can go and be a Karen:)
If you have questions on Olympus/OM or M43, just let me know. I’ve tried quite a few of their offerings. You’ll get good advice here on most any brand, and it’s hard to go wrong these days, especially if your needs aren’t too demanding for things like high burst rates and crazy-accurate CAF.
 
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Hughmac

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If you buy a mirrorless camera such as the Z 50 remember to invest in a spare battery at the same time, as you will only get about 300 shots per charge as opposed to your D3100.
Also, the Z 50 has basic weather proofing rather than the full sealing of the Z6/Z7, and the kit lenses are not sealed. Common sense prevails as you can probably use the camera in drizzle but not heavy rain.

Cheers :)

Hugh
 

citysnaps

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I went the other direction from using dSLRs and mirrorless cams to now (for the last five years or so) shooting only with my phone. It's very liberating.
 
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Danfango

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I went the other direction from using dSLRs and mirrorless cams to now (for the last five years or so) shooting only with my phone. It's very liberating.

I think that's why I'm still on the fence as well.

I do a lot of outdoor photography and it's not much fun lugging a camera 10 miles out into the middle of nowhere on foot in the pissing rain. I did that many years ago and it was unpleasant to say the least. The liberation comes also from not having to deal with rats nests of proprietary chargers and SD cards all the time. I take a photo on the phone and it's on my mac when I get home ready for futzing with.
 
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Danfango

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I’m pretty shocked how iPhone 13 Pro is handling textures. It’s awesome how a tiny sensor can do the job so nicely. Tia a look. No filters, no editions…

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Yes the 13 pro sensor is quite amazing for the size of it.

I futzed with the contrast and saturation on this a bit, just in Photos app on the ipad, but it shows what it's capable of:

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