Nor, do they want to. But even at the high price points, Dell, Lenovo etc sell more higher priced machines than apple as well. The market saturation for apple is here at this point. Anyone who was going to switch, has. Besides here, where its 90 percent apple fanboys(girls, people..I use that term loosely), there are more people leaving apple's platform than joining it. Sales of the M1 stuff is up because it's apple users just wanting the latest and greatest from apple. Nothing more.
Some minor anecdotal evidence as to why Mac stuff is up. I recently had two friends buy the new M1 laptops just because the price went down a smidget with the chip switch. These are lower middle class guys and this price drop; even though rather insignificant when you add in the needed accessories, was enough to sway them.
I just purchased a new Dell 2 in 1 for my work today. I paid less for it than a new m1 including the pen and got much more included. Like the ability to add 64gb of ram, 4tb of storage plus an included USB a, SD card reader headphone jack and more. It has the i7 1185g7 chip which is no slouch as well. Overall, much better device for the money.
I kind of wonder how many people now have extra justification for it if they use their own devices from home for work, and perhaps how many received some extra money to put towards it (from their work or stimulus, etc) that might make it more appealing, plus saving money on travel, commuting, etc. The additional fanfare around the M1 release certainly can't hurt.
Oh trust me, I hate the M1 switch as thats the Death Knell of alot of software I use. Yes, alot is locked behind 32 Bit doors and I'm still on Mojave which makes Windows suddenly look a million times better. I am eyeing the market for a good "Macbook Equivalent", I really dig some of the beefy Thinkpads.
I was close to getting a new Macbook pro. But the way apple is going about business and the fact my iPhone is ten times as "buggy" as my cheap Samsung android device is all that I need to know. The apple reality distortion field with various things now is just to much. I ditched everything I owned apple and moved on. You know what? It's miles better.
I think the iPad/iPad Air fills the lower-mid end, because most people buying $500 laptops are just using it for basic web browsing which the iPad can do perfectly.
I was under the impression that Dell, HP and Lenovo each all outsell Apple in the computer market. But I agree, Apple will never fully compete for market share as long as it remains a "luxury" or at least a "premium" brand manufacturer.
Considering the only OEM using Apple's SoCs is Apple AND considering that the Windows PC market has largely run independent of Apple (even during the years in which Apple used the same processors in their computers), the two will probably continue to do their own thing. Which is to say that the PC market will continue to be dominated by x86-64 systems with AMD and Intel inside and Apple will continue to make Macs with whatever CPU/SoCs they see fit until it's time to change that to something else yet again. We'll probably see an increased interest in ARM64 spurred by Apple Silicon being way ahead of the next best ARM SoC, but it will be a good while before that manifests in the form of a Windows for ARM64 machine that is compelling enough to cause users to switch and for developers to pivot and/or create versions of their software that run natively on either architecture.
I do think Arm is going to start gaining traction on the windows side in quite short order (even more so looking at NVIDIA's latest intentions). I don't see x86 catching up on the important power consumption/ cool running metric, so I think it will eventually disappear from the consumer part of the market (though probably linger on in enterprise). How quickly that happens might revolve around how enthusiastically Intel embraces RISC V, and AMD Arm as much as how good the Arm chips that Microsoft, AMD, Qualcomm and Google are working on are.
Again, that's all dependent on developers and their willingness to embrace ARM64 when developing Windows applications. The only reason why there isn't greater traction on Windows 10 for ARM64 is that Windows app developers are largely sticking with x86 and x86-64. Hell, many of them are still dragging their feet on moving to the latter.
It depends. You are probably thinking of the U.S. market. All over the world, people have different needs and budgets. Here in Brazil, for instance, a $500 laptop costs around $1,000 due to heavy taxes, which is something most people cannot afford. You would be impressed by how many people and companies buy $300-500 laptops to do all their work because it is all that they can afford. Apple is clearly out of this market as it offers nothing suitable for these people.
It’s a classic chicken and egg though, the developers aren’t building natively for Arm yet because not only is the Windows on Arm market underdeveloped, but there’s literally only a handful of notable devices yet anyway. Once they start building the hardware the developers will be attracted to the market, which is where players like NVIDIA will really be kingmakers, if they start pushing Arm hard in the gaming market (and frankly it’s perfect there as a power sipping CPU leaves loads of TDP for their power hungry GPUs) adoption is likely to pick up quite quickly
Yes, I agree. It seems to me that ARM may become a popular architecture for Windows devices as well. For the time being, there are very few Windows ARM devices. But just one year ago there was no Mac running on ARM.
I think it'll probably be a bit more than that. Microsoft needs to incentivize developers too. Baking in their version of Rosetta 2 is one thing (although, as far as I understand, x86-64 translation to ARM64 on Windows 10 for ARM64, while a noticeable improvement from 32-bit x86 to ARM64, still has a long way to go compared to how smooth Rosetta 2 seems to be on average). But, they also need to make it easier for developers to develop for both architectures simultaneously as then there will be no reason not to. As it stands right now, you're totally right in that there is a chicken and egg problem. Microsoft isn't incentivizing developers to develop for ARM64 (and certainly no one else has ARM64 hardware that comes close to the M1's CPU performance that is capable of running Windows 10 for ARM64, let alone Windows 11 for ARM64). It'll be a while before any of this is resolved enough. But even then, Microsoft won't sunset x86-64 until the rest of the market starts moving away from it (which will likely not happen for AT LEAST the next decade, given how slowly things change on the Windows platform [not as much due to Microsoft as much as due to Microsoft having to appease businesses and long-standing indie developers who are capable of putting their foot down and insisting on things not changing due to being 80% of the market]).
I know, it’s pathetic. Android phones are incredible values by contrast.
