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ChatGPT/Open AI used all our data to be come smart, and now we have to pay to use it.
 
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ChatGPT/Open AI used all our data to be come smart, and now we have to pay to use it.

Yeah....
I mean it would be like a human, reading books, watching video's and going to lessons and learning to be clever based upon other people's previous work.
And then, after a few years of them learning, expecting people to pay them for what they are a person can offer.

Those greedy humans who studied for years on other people's work, should offer their services for free ;)
 
I upgraded once I saw this post, o1 pro is not great at Swift but if it can write my tests quicker for me than o1 did I'm down, not sure if its worth it yet, for me it'll be related to the limit, if I can use it effectively everyday, which comes down to my prompts and its capabilities without capping on limit it'll be worth it, if its a fair amount of back and forth chewing up quota I'll cancel.
 
Reminds me of some of those ridiculous priced health apps with a monthly subscription for like 300 Euro, knowing that it's aimed at health insurances covering it. One of those was like a "calm the Tinnitus" apps.

I know many companies actually block access to ChatGPT, even the website over privacy concerns and researchers? Haha they can hardly get coffee expenses reimbursed from what I hear (but hey, University is free)
 
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Why are the version numbers so weird with these people?

4o
o1

No rhyme or reason.
Yes, very unintuitive unless you’re already in the know.

I’d assume that this is some sort of convoluted way to give users a vague grasp of which version is superior while also making sure they don’t complain too much if the differences between each product aren’t immediately obvious.

To be fair, LLMs are very weird sometimes and not exactly consistent even if you pay to get the best. So I sort of get why they do this.
 
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o1 is powerful, but $200 a month is waaay to expensive for regiular(ish) use.

Guess it's aimed at big corp consultants, nice way to inflate already outrageous billed amounts.
 
Why are the version numbers so weird with these people?

4o
o1

No rhyme or reason.

I took a look at their o1 marketing page and there was an explanation… it was along the lines of

“This is such a ground breaking next gen model that will be the future benchmark of AI that we are resetting the clock, and going back from 4 to day 0”

Like Tim Cook releasing iPhone 17 Pro and saying it’s so groundbreaking and the features are so next gen we are calling it the iPhone and starting again

Although I don’t think we ever saw iPhone (1), 2, 3?
 
$200 and still no folder groups that Chrome extensions provide for free.

Anyway, what I got from their blog and pricing data is...

Not Worth Its:
  1. Improved reasoning and accuracy, but doesn’t represent a transformative leap. Researchers need dramatic differences in capabilities to significantly advance their work.
  2. OpenAI claims a 34% error reduction. For most general research, the improvements might feel marginal.
  3. The models are trained on the same corpus of data. Improved reasoning or minor accuracy gains won't change the fundamental limitations of the underlying data, such as gaps in knowledge or biases.
  4. The "pro mode" feature increases computation for more accurate answers to hard questions. For most research this is overkill.
  5. The potential for longer generation times could also hinder real-time workflows.
  6. Even with o1, OpenAI doesn’t offer internal access to model layers, weights, or neuron activations, which are critical for researchers in mechanistic interpretability or advanced model analysis. Researchers looking for customization or explainability will find greater value in open-source models.
    (Understandable. I'd actually pay $500 for this.)

Maybes:
  1. If your research involves complex reasoning tasks, like proving mathematical theorems, coding complex algorithms, or analyzing case law, o1’s reasoning improvements might make a noticeable difference.
  2. The 75% error reduction on coding competition-style problems could be particularly valuable for researchers in programming-heavy fields.
    (My field so it's tempting. Can easily determine if it's 75%)
 
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Unlimited access is good. But at $200 no way I will subscribe to this. Maybe after some time there will be a significant price reduction.
 
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I'm paying $25 (inc. Norwegian VAT) each month for the _regular_ paid option, and - the way I've been using it the last couple of months, that's been well worth it.

Now paying $200 - or rather $250 - per month, well that's not something I could afford (or rather something I simply can't justify).

On the upside, I noticed I got the new o1 version (up from the o1-preview), yesterday. So that's (potentially) good.

The 4o version with Canvas is still in beta though. (And weirdly only available through a browser, not the ChatGPT app.) But based on my experience with that, it still has a long way to go before it's even remotely reliable.
 
This whole ai thing is getting out of control, I wouldn’t pay a penny for it
 
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