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NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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Damn, I had no idea that Oracle owned Sun Microsystems, and therefore Java!:eek:

So is their gripe that Google merely used java?

Is this just patent trolling?:confused:
 

goMac

macrumors 604
Apr 15, 2004
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1,694
Damn, I had no idea that Oracle owned Sun Microsystems, and therefore Java!:eek:

So is their gripe that Google merely used java?

Is this just patent trolling?:confused:

Likely that because Google implemented their own Java clone, that they infringed patents.

Android does not actually use "normal" Java. Google wrote their own Java like system.
 

Rodimus Prime

macrumors G4
Oct 9, 2006
10,136
4
honestly I had though Java had gotten kicked open source but guess I was wrong.

I knew one of the fears of when Oracle bought out Sun and got Java that it would get destroyed in all the patent crap and what not.

Btw you link does not work.
 

kiljoy616

macrumors 68000
Apr 17, 2008
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USA
Damn, I had no idea that Oracle owned Sun Microsystems, and therefore Java!:eek:

So is their gripe that Google merely used java?

Is this just patent trolling?:confused:

Companies Trolling each other, never, now could that be.

Next quarter may be a good quarter for Oracle.
 

Jaro65

macrumors 68040
Mar 27, 2009
3,830
943
Seattle, WA
Damn, I had no idea that Oracle owned Sun Microsystems, and therefore Java!:eek:

So is their gripe that Google merely used java?

Is this just patent trolling?:confused:

I wouldn't consider this a patent trolling. Oracle spent some pretty decent cash on Sun and as such are entitled to Sun's intellectual property.


Oracle sucks soooo bad. Must need some revenue. Seems like all their licensing income would be enough...guess not.

Not sure what you mean. I don't like Oracle, but they sure've been quite successful.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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I wouldn't consider this a patent trolling. Oracle spent some pretty decent cash on Sun and as such are entitled to Sun's intellectual property.
I was asking if there was merit to this or if it was just patent trolling, not making a statement.
 

jp102235

macrumors regular
Apr 20, 2010
126
0
western us
payback is a bitch

This sounds like corporate politics - wonder if this is under encouragement from apple - do apple/oracle share board members?

j
 

binarymelon

macrumors member
Jul 27, 2007
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Are there any details on the patent violations? There's no way this is simply for using Java. Is this a MS JVM type issue?
 

sciwizam

macrumors regular
Jul 10, 2010
181
0
I wonder how Eric Schmidt feels about this.

From Eric Schmidt's wiki

He joined Sun Microsystems in 1983, led its Java development efforts and rose to become Chief Technology Officer.
 

Pentad

macrumors 6502a
Nov 26, 2003
986
99
Indiana
The problem is that if Oracle wins, everybody who uses Java looses....

I teach basic IP law and this is not good. Software patents are a very, very bad thing.

I have no love for Google or Oracle but once something like this sets a precedence its very bad..
 

Bytor65

macrumors 6502a
Feb 10, 2010
853
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Canada
WTF.

The big deal about Java was how open it was. But that was when Sun was independent.

This really does suck for the whole industry if Oracle is going to start trying to close down java.
 

Warbrain

macrumors 603
Jun 28, 2004
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Chicago, IL
The problem is that if Oracle wins, everybody who uses Java looses....

I teach basic IP law and this is not good. Software patents are a very, very bad thing.

I have no love for Google or Oracle but once something like this sets a precedence its very bad..

Well, license it and you're fine. It's just bad that Sun let the usage go pretty much free for a while (from what it seems) and now you have Oracle who doesn't care who it attacks.
 

darkplanets

macrumors 6502a
Nov 6, 2009
853
1
One of the reasons I liked Sun better; they played nicer with open source groups near the end. I was never a huge Oracle fan, especially after the takeover of their rival of sorts, and the subsequent bastardization of their products like ZFS.

But hey, they gotta make money somehow. Since most of Java is under GNU, its probably the JVM or something in order to extract a licensing fee.
 
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