Ordering nMP today... should I bother?

[linuxcooldude]

By the time Haswell-EP ships, the nMP design will be a year and a half old since introduction (June 2013), and close to a year old since shipping (Dec 2013).

Apologize for Apple all you want - while the "rest of us" buy Haswell-EPs from the other vendors.

A year and a half? Oh the horror. If it not even out yet, why are we talking about this? Its already using the latest processor and its only been shipping for 5 months. It still takes a while once Haswell's released until enough quantities to make it readily available.

Isn't Apple engineering amazing? They used newer parts to make a newer computer.

Another pointless post.

But it's not hard to update the platform when new tech arrives. The Mac Pro languished with USB 2.0 and no T-Bolt for ages, and skipped Sandy-Bridge completely.

But we are talking about the 2013 Mac Pro.

 

[VirtualRain]

Ironic, since the Mac Tube GPUs are a generation behind the times.

The fact is that both AMD and Nvidia GPUs are getting long in the tooth and a next-gen product from both camps is overdue. The transition to sub 28nm process has proved challenging and just now we're starting to get reports of next-gen parts (e.g. Pascal).

The GPUs in the nMP are using the latest GPU technology available.

If you had CUDA GPUs, you'd be better off. But Apple decided "no CUDA for you"!

As I said in my other response to you, there are good reasons for Apple embracing OpenCL and not CUDA. And the door is likely wide open for future Nvidia GPUs in the Mac Pro if Nvidia embraces OpenCL.

 

[sigmadog]

I'm always amused by the "it's not the latest X in the Mac Pro" argument, mainly because for most users like me, having the absolute latest tech comes in a distant second to having a system that smokes our 5–8 year old computers.

I suppose Apple makes choices on its components in order to move development along. Sticking with proven (i.e. slightly "older") tech is probably a safer bet, especially when radically redesigning a whole system like the nMP.

Getting the fastest, most powerful system possible at any given moment would be lovely, but not very realistic for those of us without the desire or time to build our own system. I'm content to accept most of the choices made in the components of the new Mac Pro, as it is clearly a superior machine to what I currently own, and it will likely keep me satisfied for a long time (when I finally purchase one).

 

[Riwam]

...you mean: and when it is finally delivered to you!

I'm content to accept most of the choices made in the components of the new Mac Pro, as it is clearly a superior machine to what I currently own, and it will likely keep me satisfied for a long time (when I finally purchase one).[/QUOTE]

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"When I finally purchase one" ...and it is finely delivered to you!

 

[AidenShaw]

But we are talking about the 2013 Mac Pro.

... and whether Apple will upgrade it this fall with new generation parts.

The fact is that both AMD and Nvidia GPUs are getting long in the tooth and a next-gen product from both camps is overdue. The transition to sub 28nm process has proved challenging and just now we're starting to get reports of next-gen parts (e.g. Pascal).

The next generation is Maxwell, which is expected soon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Maxwell

 

[linuxcooldude]

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[VirtualRain]

... and whether Apple will upgrade it this fall with new generation parts.




The next generation is Maxwell, which is expected soon:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Maxwell

Right... Pascal is now after Maxwell (instead of Volta). But notice how old Kepler is at this point in time. It launched 2-years ago, two months after AMDs Southern Islands GCN. So, as I said both are long overdue.

At any rate, the GPUs in the new Mac Pro are as current as they possibly can be so saying that Apple is equipping the nMP with GPUs that are a generation old is simply false.

Frankly, I'm not sure what your motivation is for spreading false crap like that? Certainly you know better. We all know your disposition to the nMP, but with some of your false spin type comments the last couple days you're loosing what little credibility you have left here.

 

[sigmadog]

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"When I finally purchase one" ...and it is finely delivered to you!

Well, there is that!

 

[AidenShaw]

At any rate, the GPUs in the new Mac Pro are as current as they possibly can be so saying that Apple is equipping the nMP with GPUs that are a generation old is simply false.

You are right. They're underclocked and less capable than the flagship FirePro cards, but they are the same generation silicon.

 

[koban4max]

This is my birthday gift to myself this year. I was going for an nMP with 2 Thunderbolt displays but after reading the threads, it doesn't look like there is much information regarding shipping times for those who've ordered recently. Many of the ones who ordered back in January still have yet to be made whole.

If I were to order one today, would I be expecting a 3-month wait also? Or should I just wait for them to be finally sold in store? Your thoughts please. I'm not dying to get it now, I already have a beast with 4 Titan's tiding me over

you should wait till problems with nMP have been resolved...

 

[vhp3]

you should wait till problems with nMP have been resolved...

What problems? I've owned mine since early January, and no problems here. It's fast as heck and super reliable. You won't be sorry, but hating the wait.

 

[koban4max]

What problems? I've owned mine since early January, and no problems here. It's fast as heck and super reliable. You won't be sorry, but hating the wait.

well now...that's the problem ain't it?
another problem would instant shut down reported by another macrumor members.

 

[snouter]

Perfect nMP here, so far as I can tell. No whine, no noise, no shutdowns.

I've rendered 3d over night at 100% cpu, edited and compressed video, sweetened audio and done some coding. All good.

 

[Riwam]

Read posts of other users and you'll find out!

Perfect nMP here, so far as I can tell. No whine, no noise, no shutdowns.

I've rendered 3d over night at 100% cpu, edited and compressed video, sweetened audio and done some coding. All good.

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Good for you that your computer works as it should.
Read posts of other people and other threads and you'll soon find out that other users DO EXPERIENCE different problems, flickering displays, computers shutting down by themselves or not waking up, noises which should not be heard and so on...

As with every new machine, the new MacPro shows in a certain number of computers (only Apple knows how many and they won't say it) "youth" problems of different kind.

Users report having had to replace their machine, in some cases even twice!
No reason not to believe them or think they had no reason to take all the trouble involved in being forced to replace all their data...

Therefore if you belong to the lucky owners of a good working nMP do not ignore your fellow users who were not as lucky as you are!


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What problems? I've owned mine since early January, and no problems here. It's fast as heck and super reliable. You won't be sorry, but hating the wait.

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Besides the "waiting" problem, other users in different threads report technical problems of different nature.
You are lucky not to suffer from any of them but others were not as lucky as you.

 

[DVNIEL]

Thanks for everyone's opinion. I was a little disappointed that the ship times slipped to 5-6 weeks but I went ahead and ordered it.

Hopefully the ship time won't slip any further.

 

[Roller]

Thanks for everyone's opinion. I was a little disappointed that the ship times slipped to 5-6 weeks but I went ahead and ordered it.

Hopefully the ship time won't slip any further.

If the shipping time is long enough, you'll be celebrating your next birthday.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Thanks for everyone's opinion. I was a little disappointed that the ship times slipped to 5-6 weeks but I went ahead and ordered it.

Hopefully the ship time won't slip any further.

Once it starts shipping you can get as excited as other.

 

[DVNIEL]

Once it starts shipping you can get as excited as other.



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Unfortunately this is what I'll be looking at for the next 6 weeks...

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Unfortunately this is what I'll be looking at for the next 6 weeks...

Well that's not nearly as exciting.