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Ahhh might be a deal breaker here... I am an aspiring film maker (I know I'm only 17 but its a passion) and I will be using FCS very often. The MBP that is the refurb has a glossy screen which doesnt really express the natural colors that I would want when editing a film.

If there is anyone that is a film maker as well and has a glossy screen that can tell me that the screen is fine for film editing please do so because this deal is VERY tempting.

I use FCP2 for editing broadcast quality shows and documentaries. I have a 2.2 SR Glossy. For the most part it's fine and most of the editing I do on it are for on location rough cuts. The real post is done at the office either on a Mac Pro (not mine, so I hope the new MPs come out soon) or on the MBP w/ an external monitor.
 
Do they really not check for education discount? I'm going to college next year so i figure its not that bad if I use it. I would be using it anyway... why not now?

Also... final tally. GLOSSY or MATTE!?!?!?!?
 
The 17" is way too big for me personally. The whole pont of a notebook is to be portable and compact, and for me 17" crosses the line for portability. It definitely is a great deal and thanks for bringing it to my attention, but a 17" isn't for me.
 
risk is relative, isn't it?

My refurbed MBP was 3 weeks old when I received it, according to coconutIdentityCard. It's a 2.4, so it might have been returned due to buyer's remorse. In any case, they're checked so thoroughly that the real risk may be getting a new machine that hasn't been broken in yet.

I'd buy a refurbed iphone if I was going to get one of those things...
 
The risk is getting a particularly beat up laptop thats been circling in and out of the refurb warehouse that more than just the original owner has returned. Another risk is that when the original owner had it and say the hard drive went bad in a month, they just replaced the hard drive and left the underlying problem of a faulty power supply or logic board. A risk would be that you would have to spend hours on tech support and play the shipping game with applecare. When you assess the worst possible situation its much riskier than being able to just run to the store and be done with it all by returning. Its about the same risk you take when you buy a new one, however this ones been already declared unfit once for someone. Id prefer to risk my luck on an unused one than an already fixed one. Same with cars. But it all boils down to what you can afford. If you take that 450 and divide out your hours of (potential) hassle hopefully you can still justify your purchase. Not me my time is more valueable to me.

Apple have stated that they have a strict refurbishment process for hardware to be resold at a discount, which of course would make sense because selling faulty machines costs everybody time and money -- including Apple. And my experience with refurbished products has been positive, along with many others here at MR.

It is my belief that most of what you've just written is complete nonsense, if only because what is bad for the consumer is bad for Apple. It's in their best interest to ensure every machine they sell, new or used, actually work. Hence the strict refurbishment process.
 
Apple have stated that they have a strict refurbishment process for hardware to be resold at a discount, which of course would make sense because selling faulty machines costs everybody time and money -- including Apple. And my experience with refurbished products has been positive, along with many others here at MR.

It is my belief that most of what you've just written is complete nonsense, if only because what is bad for the consumer is bad for Apple. It's in their best interest to ensure every machine they sell, new or used, actually work. Hence the strict refurbishment process.




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It is my belief that most of what you've just written is complete nonsense, if only because what is bad for the consumer is bad for Apple. It's in their best interest to ensure every machine they sell, new or used, actually work. Hence the strict refurbishment process.

Well I would have settled with even the slightest indication of a possible agreement. But it seems that "complete nonsense" seems to rule that out. Thats cool, it really is I didnt want to force you to agree I was just putting out my opinion on refurbs. As far as the "strict processes" you are describing, hey look around about 1/4 of the posts in this forum are about how apples quality controll has gone straight to hell. I dont hold too much stock in it anymore. I know buying a refurb isnt like just buying useless junk off ebay. Im just saying I wouldnt do it because I feel that its got a higher potential for issue than a new one. If you can agree to that then my points been made. You might say that its very slight and I may say that its more than slight but the underlying fact remains.

and mr +1 that goes for you too, hopefully you too can go back to 0
 
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