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"El Capitan" doesn't introduce any change in the Ivekiddy UI, not a single one was quoted.
They managed to act as if their noses were bleeding the whole keynote through.
So far for Apple Feedback :D
 
Then you did not look close enough. It clearly stated that OS X is getting a different system font which is in line with the San Francisco font rumour. Other than that there weren't any big overhauls of the system so it's not a surprise that El Capitan still has "Ivekiddy UI".
 
I love Dark Mode, but yeah it doesn't seem finished to me. I would have loved to seen dark mode applied to dialog to windows. It is very inconsistent. (Something I just live with)
 
someone with the beta can confirm/dismiss that aren't changes in the dark mode?
 
Dark mode aside, the widely reported system-wide font switch from Helvetica Neue to San Francisco - I don't see any sign of it...
Complete the keynote? I was back to sleep so I didn't follow it at that time.
Seems that, this keynote is the most unexpected, yet least surprised keynote apple has ever released.
 
I would really like a system wide dark theme... but I didn't really expect to see it in OSX 10.11
I'm hoping OSX 10.12 (or maybe late 10.11 - but unlikely) will receive full dark theme after the performance tweaking in El Cap.
 
Well, I'm hoping they add to it thought the betas. Remember that dark mode didn't include Spotlight or the volume/brightness indicators at first.

Though I want it for App UIs, it really needs to be there for the Control-Click menu because the white menu with the black menubar and dock looks really out of place.
 
someone with the beta can confirm/dismiss that aren't changes in the dark mode?
Basically no change.
Well, I'm hoping they add to it thought the betas. Remember that dark mode didn't include Spotlight or the volume/brightness indicators at first.

Though I want it for App UIs, it really needs to be there for the Control-Click menu because the white menu with the black menubar and dock looks really out of place.
Somehow I doubt this would be something they silently add without announcing it at WWDC. However, darkened context menus are a good idea and there's a chance we may see those appear sometime.
 
Basically no change.

Somehow I doubt this would be something they silently add without announcing it at WWDC. However, darkened context menus are a good idea and there's a chance we may see those appear sometime.

I kind of agree, but there were a lot of note worthy features that didn't get mentioned because of severe time restraints (like a new system font - which is a biggie). My gut tells me they would have at lasted mentioned it, but if it wasn't ready they may still add it in a beta and give it a proper announcement at the September/October event when it's released.
 
I love Dark Mode, but yeah it doesn't seem finished to me. I would have loved to seen dark mode applied to dialog to windows. It is very inconsistent. (Something I just live with)
Agreed. Safari, for example, should have a space gray type look to match the menu.
 
I like dark mode not just aesthetically, but it help increase contrast and usability in some places (white menubar translucency on a dark background leads to black text on a murky grey background.).

I'd like to see it implemented for app UIs like in Finder and Safari.

Me too. Have you ever used the dark themes in Visual Studio? It's really, really nice. My issues in the past focused on screen quality and lack of clarity but the retina screens make dark themes incredibly pleasing to use. I'd really like to see more use of it. I actually wish Apple would bring configurable dark themes for individual stock apps on the iPhone - calendar, notes, contacts and the like are far too white.
 
I still think we will have a more extended dark mode at the end of the developers preview, perhaps not system wide but for certain programs ("apps") like Safari.
Fingers crossed!
 
Dark mode aside, the widely reported system-wide font switch from Helvetica Neue to San Francisco - I don't see any sign of it...

If you take a close look at the screenshots, you'll notice the "G" is not helvetica (visible on the menubar). Both fonts are very similar, but San Fransisco seems much more appropriate as a system font (spacing, thickness and some subtle differences in certain letters - hard to see on those screenshots that's for sure), which will make navigating the Finder a more pleasing experience.
 
The current Yosemite implementation of dark mode for just the menu bar and dock seems incomplete and doesn't match the rest of the UI very well. Does anyone think 10.11 will come with a system-wide dark mode, and if so what apps will it be compatible with?
ye what is the point of DM if its not across the board, late at night I just dont want to see white unless its a font..... duh.
 
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I would love a full dark mode UI in OS X, but quite frankly I just don't ever think we'll get it from Apple (which means it's never going to happen, period). Back when you could easily theme OS X (ShapeShifter), and MacOS before that, I tried a bunch of dark themes, and none of them stuck around very long.

The problem with dark themes is that they're hard. You really have to think about things a lot. There are a ton of tiny little details you have to deal with that simply don't exist with a lighter theme.

And at the end of the day, all the work that goes into creating a dark mode/theme gets killed when companies like MS and Adobe create their own UI for their apps... so they look totally out of place with the rest of the system while you're using them—which, let's face it, is much more time than you spend in the Finder, Mail, Safari, Contacts, etc...
 
shapeshifter was great; having black translucent dropdown menus (and i had another app for customized contextual menus)...was great. my friends ooh'd and aww'd over the look of my screen...
 
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