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OS X 10.8.2 lag fix on Retina MacBook Pro
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Have only been using it for a little bit but I do feel that Mission Control and switching between spaces is smoother on Retina while on Intel HD 4000 in scaled resolution.
No difference on my Mac either. The maximizing contacts animation is just as laggy, not to mention certain web pages that are pure pain - like http://www.pitchfork.com and http://www.aftenposten.no
Hoping for a standalone update for the Retina Mac very soon.
Hoping for a standalone update for the Retina Mac very soon.
I have 10.8.2 and the EFI update installed on my 2012 Air. I haven't tested everything, but Safari is significantly smoother on sites like theverge and afterposten. They were rather choppy before, even after a fresh reboot. Now, they are almost completely smooth, except for a little judder.
Contacts and the App Store are still chunky as hell, but why care how choppy a maximize animation is on these apps?
* Note that I have only clicktoflash installed in Safari. Maybe people with poor Safari performance have certain extensions installed?
Contacts and the App Store are still chunky as hell, but why care how choppy a maximize animation is on these apps?
* Note that I have only clicktoflash installed in Safari. Maybe people with poor Safari performance have certain extensions installed?
No! It's not the hardware. Stop blaming the hardware for the software issues that Apple can't deal with.
It is definitely better but not perfect. Scrolling in Safari is slightly better. Scrolling in heavy sites is still laggy. Mission control with lots of apps open again is still laggy but the improvement is noticeable.
This is where I'm at. I've definitely noticed an improvement in Mission Control. It still get's a little choppy when I have a lot of windows up (Discrete graphics work fine though) but overall is much better.
And when I say a lot, I mean 10+. Which is stretching the usability of Mission Control for me anyway.
It's pretty obvious that this isn't specific to the retina pro. Anyone who claims otherwise should test other MacBooks, because it is immediately obvious.
can everyone in this thread please confirm the following:
if you had Mac OS X Lion before, it was fine/smooth?
it has been an issue since Mountain lion.
now the last thing i ask of people with retina macbook pros:
does the lagg decrease alot when you change your dock option to be on the
left or right side of the screen (so it becomes a 2D Dock)
??
when i do this, on my 2011 macbook pro, i see alot of improvement on the lag. its practically gone, im convinced the UI lagg is partly to blame with the new dock (in reference to mission control and swiping. i don't know about Safari)
the reason i suspect this is because my lag issue was quite worse on my 1080p external monitor, which i can only assume is to do with the fact its pushing more pixels than my built in lcd on the laptop.
the 10.8.2 update has improved things, but its still not like Lion.
its also a factor that when my GPU is on the intel one, the problem is at its worse.
for me the problem is completely gone when i have the dock on Auto-Hide, so it isn't visible while swiping.
if you had Mac OS X Lion before, it was fine/smooth?
it has been an issue since Mountain lion.
now the last thing i ask of people with retina macbook pros:
does the lagg decrease alot when you change your dock option to be on the
left or right side of the screen (so it becomes a 2D Dock)
??
when i do this, on my 2011 macbook pro, i see alot of improvement on the lag. its practically gone, im convinced the UI lagg is partly to blame with the new dock (in reference to mission control and swiping. i don't know about Safari)
the reason i suspect this is because my lag issue was quite worse on my 1080p external monitor, which i can only assume is to do with the fact its pushing more pixels than my built in lcd on the laptop.
the 10.8.2 update has improved things, but its still not like Lion.
its also a factor that when my GPU is on the intel one, the problem is at its worse.
for me the problem is completely gone when i have the dock on Auto-Hide, so it isn't visible while swiping.
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Both GPU's can handle refreshing millions of pixels. They can't handle the scaling software.
Try running your rMBP at full resolution and look for the lag. There probably won't be any or at least minimal lag.
I think you misunderstand me. I don't even have a rMBP. I was stating what other experts have been reporting. Anandtech is a well respected source for CPU and GPU reviews. They stated the hardware limitations. I was just pointing them out. Other publications have stated the same. I am just the messenger
Crapple
You're exactly right. And it pisses me off that Apple released it as is and still hasn't fixed the issue 3 months later. It cost me a hell of a lot of money and productivity.
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I think you misunderstand this thread.
Yes, OS X has graphics problems and struggles here and there on all macs.
But on the retina it's way way way worse. That's why it's such a big deal and why we're all depressed and suicidal ( jk ).
You're exactly right. And it pisses me off that Apple released it as is and still hasn't fixed the issue 3 months later. It cost me a hell of a lot of money and productivity.
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I think you misunderstand me. I don't even have a rMBP. I was stating what other experts have been reporting. Anandtech is a well respected source for CPU and GPU reviews. They stated the hardware limitations. I was just pointing them out. Other publications have stated the same. I am just the messenger
I think you misunderstand this thread.
Yes, OS X has graphics problems and struggles here and there on all macs.
But on the retina it's way way way worse. That's why it's such a big deal and why we're all depressed and suicidal ( jk ).
No it wasn't fine at all. I was really surprised when I saw how the rMBPs were in the Apple store (running Lion). They delivered a much WORSE experience than any mac I have seen in a long time. Including my late 2010 macbook Air.
I still bought one (2.6, 512GB, 16GB) because I was prepared to sacrifice the aesthetic smoothness for the overall quality and power of the machine.
Mine came with Lion. It was laggy. I upgraded to ML. I was still laggy and I didn't notice an improvement or deterioration. After upgrading to 10.8.2 there is a DEFINITE improvement, but it is still laggy.
No. I have experimented with both. No obvious difference. Complex websites remain very choppy in Safari. As is Mission Control with lots of Windows open.
I use a 1920x1200 external monitor. When this is connected, the lag is COMPLETELY gone. All lagging scenarios with the retina screen are perfectly smooth with the external monitor. Note that the external monitor only runs with the dGPU. If you try to enable the iGPU with the external monitor, your machine will crash.
Lion was no better than 10.8.1 with my rMBP.
This makes no difference with my rMBP
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Installed both updates, and definitely impressed. Swiping between full screen apps is now much more fluid and there is no visible choppiness. yay . I was so tired of the stupid lag and choppiness
. I was so tired of the stupid lag and choppiness
finding mission control much much faster, still slow when I force hd4000 though - but im pretty satisfied with the improvement.
However, I found lag before the 10.8.2 update to be really inconsistant. I could never work out what apps open would cause it, so it might return.
However, I found lag before the 10.8.2 update to be really inconsistant. I could never work out what apps open would cause it, so it might return.
After installing all the updates, it is definitely a lot better. Not perfect, and it will still stutter once in a while, but a lot better.
Benchmarks also confirm it: 10.8.0 gave a score of 88 on the UI test, with 10.8.2 and EFI update I am getting 220 on the same test.
Running like 1920x1200 fwiw.
Benchmarks also confirm it: 10.8.0 gave a score of 88 on the UI test, with 10.8.2 and EFI update I am getting 220 on the same test.
Running like 1920x1200 fwiw.
Yes, it worked with facebook. When i put the dock in 2D, facebook scrolls much smoother!
Stumbled upon this. If anyone wants to try it, this may help. Type this into terminal to get the 2D dock at the bottom of the screen:
defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES
killall Dock
NO at the end restores it. Those who want to fiddle with the system, /Library/CoreServices/Finder.app -> show contents and then somewhere you'll find PNGs to customize your dock
Maybe I'm just not seeing it but I found with the latest update for Mountain Lion that most of the UI lag that I noticed originally is gone. I think Apple has done a terrific job of optimizing OSX for the Retina display. Obviously it will get better with future releases of the rMBP but as of right now my machine is running very well.