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n8mac

macrumors 6502
Jun 25, 2006
441
52
Ohio
On the other hand, it IS true that Apple shipped a number of defective computers in 2014. The affected systems were found to have the nut behind the keyboard a little loose. It sounds like you may have one of the affected models.

I didn't get this when I first read it, but good job sir. One of the funniest things I have read on MR in a long time :D
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
8,784
215
UK
I wouldn't go as far as to say its a toy (OS X actually has plenty of powerful features that Apple has brushed under the rug away from view of the user), but the latest version certainly has that look about it.
 

VI™

macrumors 6502a
Aug 27, 2010
636
1
Shepherdsturd, WV
I know it's hard for hardcore apple fanatics to hear this, but this OS plus apple policies has really made me mad. I was fooled to invest in a rMBP as my desktop computer, but I was completely wrong. I don't know where to start with, with defective internet browsers that doesn't even work even on most popular websites?(safari, chrome, and , firefox), defective video players?, defective laptop that doesn't have a ethernet port( for making it awesome)? This OS even messes all of your files with hidden files that you can never have access to them but it's apparent in windows. Don't By Mac, except for having a multi gesture trackpad( That actually is good for nothing) It is full of cons and It's just a piece of toy compared to windows. Don't be fooled.

umadbro?

How were you fooled into buying a rMBP? Did someone sell you magic beans? I can web browse and play video with no problem. Sounds like user error. Windows hides files as well, you just have to know how to access them and if you don't know what you're doing, I'm guessing it can seem impossible. I Byed a Mac and have no regrets, but then again, I'm proficient with computers and learned how to use one by reading and research. In fact, the only two things I really use Windows for is playing games and MS Office, so Windows could be considered more of a toy. I'm glad I wasn't fooled.

Don't think I've ever been on a website that didn't work on my Mac. Perhaps we use different sites, or maybe you are new to Macs and haven't taken the time to learn a new system?

https://www.apple.com/uk/support/macbookpro/new_user/

I have. I have to bootcamp in to Windows 7 and use IE for certain school based browser tests through their web pages. It's really annoying, but it's happened before even though that's about the only time I've ever had to do it.
 

gnasher729

Suspended
Nov 25, 2005
17,980
5,566
This OS even messes all of your files with hidden files that you can never have access to them but it's apparent in windows.

Just recently there was a poster here asking for help because a friend (if we believe him) deleted some of the hidden files and now his computer didn't start anymore.

You either know how to look for the system files, or you better don't touch them. Complaining that they are hidden is a sign of someone who just knows enough to be dangerous.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
Clearly the OP fails to grasp the Unix underpinnings of the operating system, including the file system attributes and why they are hidden in OSX but Windows they are not.

ITs like viewing an NTFS volume in OSX, what as marked as hidden in windows is shown in OS X.

Additionally, the security is superior hence the lack security updates on every month, and the memory management is better.

I support Windows desktops and servers and I like the OS, but OS X does have clear advantages. If the OP is unaware of them, then he's drawing an incorrect conclusion.

The bottom line is, that he's not happy with it, then he's more then welcome to install Windows on his Mac. That's great thing about Macs, you can run OS X, or Windows (or any other OS)
 

keysofanxiety

macrumors G3
Nov 23, 2011
9,539
25,302
I know it's hard for hardcore apple fanatics to hear this, but this OS plus apple policies has really made me mad. I was fooled to invest in a rMBP as my desktop computer, but I was completely wrong. I don't know where to start with, with defective internet browsers that doesn't even work even on most popular websites?(safari, chrome, and , firefox), defective video players?, defective laptop that doesn't have a ethernet port( for making it awesome)? This OS even messes all of your files with hidden files that you can never have access to them but it's apparent in windows. Don't By Mac, except for having a multi gesture trackpad( That actually is good for nothing) It is full of cons and It's just a piece of toy compared to windows. Don't be fooled.

Hi OP, I've reviewed your concerns in some detail and this is definitely a known issue -- working in technical support, I encounter it all the time.

It's a liveware problem.

Regrettably there isn't any immediate resolution as Apple haven't released a bug fix for liveware problems, so the best thing to do would be to sell your Mac and go back to Windows. :)
 

G4er?

macrumors 6502a
Jan 6, 2009
639
30
Temple, TX
wait why did you buy it even though it has no ethernet port?

Daughter is in college. In the dorm there always seems to be issue with the wireless going out. Thankfully her dorm also had Ethernet jacks in the rooms. She would likely not buy a newer Macbook Pro than the one she has because of that.
 

Good User

macrumors member
Original poster
Jul 23, 2014
57
1
Java not installed ?

No, As keysofanxiety told, It should be a liveware problem, It's very frustrating, for example an online chess site that has sounds after each player's move plays sounds for 10 days, then suddenly without any reason it stops from playing any sounds for 10 days then it automatically become correct in the middle of a game, or in the yahoo answers in 9 times out of ten It won't show hidden answers by clicking on it but sometimes it will, or about 1 out of 3 times I play a video the saturated bright glow appears instead of a bright picture in the video, I also have experienced freezing on some apps, I NEVER EVER experienced any of these frustrating bugs on windows 7. I hope they fix it ASAP.
 

Huntn

macrumors Core
May 5, 2008
23,977
27,056
The Misty Mountains
I know it's hard for hardcore apple fanatics to hear this, but this OS plus apple policies has really made me mad. I was fooled to invest in a rMBP as my desktop computer, but I was completely wrong. I don't know where to start with, with defective internet browsers that doesn't even work even on most popular websites?(safari, chrome, and , firefox), defective video players?, defective laptop that doesn't have a ethernet port( for making it awesome)? This OS even messes all of your files with hidden files that you can never have access to them but it's apparent in windows. Don't By Mac, except for having a multi gesture trackpad( That actually is good for nothing) It is full of cons and It's just a piece of toy compared to windows. Don't be fooled.

Your describing something alien to me and I've used OSX since the start.
 

Blackstick

macrumors 65816
Aug 11, 2014
1,342
6,378
OH
I support 700 Macs and well over 3000 Windows PCs at work. I will say in enterprise environments, Macs take a bit of creative thinking to work correctly. It's never an issue with major web sites or modern cloud services, it comes down to Macs being quirky with old, windows-centric business software that offers a web interface but this ancient interface expects IE 8 (looking at you, Altiris). Generally, to get the site to even load, I spoof the Chrome user agent to IE8 and they're seemingly compliant, but not always- sometimes they want their ActiveX trash. Sometimes Internet Explorer 9 on a VM just agrees better. Apps like Citrix's GoToAssist Corporate, it supports macs as clients but you have to run the host app from Windows (no biggie with a VM).

At home, my Macs are of course, just fine thank you much.

Especially in mid-sized businesses that run 10+ year old enterprise finance/accounting/telephony software because they "just work", and they cost a ton when they came online in the early 2000s and are now fully paid off-- well, there's never going to be a Mac or web version. Just gotta wait for the infrastructure replacement which can take time.

Or an ancient large format printer that only behaves correctly with two falling-apart apps in Windows XP... These are the use-cases where Apple isn't a strong player, because honestly, that's not their niche.

If you're a home user, solo operator, or run your business, or it doesn't have a 30 year history on Windows, Macs are gonna be a fine choice. If you're in much of corporate America, you might get a Mac, but you'll probably have Windows interaction.

I have a very heavy mac background, but I have zero issues with Windows 7 and even 8.1 (classic shell plz).
 
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