OSX 10.10.1 - need run parallels 9/10 for virtual OSX 10.6.8

[joecool99]

Perhaps you do not "get out much!" hahahaha

That being said, I am going to focus, for now, on the OP's request for a solution to his problem and not get involved in side-issues, especially ones that tend to distract him from his goal and/or confuse the issues for him.

In the meantime, the important information that I await from the OP is clarification on:

1) The name of the PowerPC software that the OP needs to run with Rosetta;

2) The reason why the OP thinks he needs to virtualize Snow Leopard client in favor of Snow Leopard Server.

1) this: http://provue.com/Downloads/index.html - old 5.5 version
2) simply because i don't want to run server (why buy a truck if i want a small car)

 

[dyt1983]

because all i need to run is old special application, so why on earth would i run server edition?

i looked at the tutorial, seems all it does is actually "faking" client as server.
i could probably do it, but it's too much fuss.

what about VM from oracle? will that run client 10.6 natively?

1) this: http://provue.com/Downloads/index.html - old 5.5 version
2) simply because i don't want to run server (why buy a truck if i want a small car)

SIMPLE ANSWERS:

As of right now, VMWare, Parallels or VirtualBox WILL NOT allow easy installation of Snow Leopard into a VM.

If it is too much "fuss" to do the steps to install Snow Leopard (not Server), and you don't want to install Snow Leopard Server, then you will just have to do without Snow Leopard.

PS: SLS works perfectly as a client and doesn't run server services until you start them up. I do not recommend VirtualBox for virtualization of Mac OSX, the performance is not good.

 

[joecool99]

ok. if SLS is the only way...
can it run rosetta ?

 

[MichaelLAX]

SIMPLE ANSWERS:

As of right now, VMWare, Parallels or VirtualBox WILL NOT allow easy installation of Snow Leopard Server into a VM.

With all due respect, this answer is just FLAT WRONG! While I do not have much experience with VMWare and VirtualBox, it is absolutely easy to install Snow Leopard Server into Parallels and I personally offer a tutorial for Parallels 8 (that I am about to update to Parallels 10) entitled:

Installing Snow Leopard Server into Parallels 8 for DUMMIES!

It is substantially the same to install into Parallels 10, with some minor changes for installing Parallels Tools.

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1) this: http://provue.com/Downloads/index.html - old 5.5 version
2) simply because i don't want to run server (why buy a truck if i want a small car)

I have substantially experience with Panorama and its predecessor, OverVue, from Provue Development.

You are not buying a truck nor do you want a small car. You want to run a PowerPC application in order to save the substantial upgrade cost from Provue for the Intel version of that same application.

If that is your choice, then installing Snow Leopard (client or server) into Parallels will give you access to the Rosetta that you need to continue to run Panorama v5.5.

However, the Server version of Snow Leopard is much easier to install, maintain and run AND will give you the ability to continue to use Panorama 5.5 in Yosemite.

Let me know, on this thread, if you have any more questions, or need any more assistance.

 

[MichaelLAX]

You are the only person I've seen anywhere who claims this is a "myth."
If Apple permitted non-server OSes earlier than 10.7 to be virtualized, VMWare and Parallels would allow it as well. The EULAs for the older desktop OSes do not specifically grant virtualization rights while the server versions do. The nature of software licenses is that the only rights granted to a user are those stated in the EULA.

Now that the OP's problem has been properly identified and solved, let me return to your comment:

Someone had to the the first person to educate you to the truth about the Snow Leopard EULA and virtualization, and I am happy to be that first person!

You say: "If Apple permitted non-server OSes earlier than 10.7 to be virtualized, VMWare and Parallels would allow it as well." -- that statement is what is generally called a "non-sequitur" and as such does not require any further reply on my part.

I view the rest of your statement as an invitation to engage you in a debate about this topic. Since you are seemingly unaware that this myth has been debunked, I must also assume that you have missed the substantial debates that occurred in the past on this forum, the Apple Support Forum and the Parallels Support Forum.

I really see no reason to get reengaged in those debates this late in the game. If that intellectual exercise interests you, the earlier ones are easily found through the "search" function.

Most importantly, as I noted earlier, Apple has made the debate largely moot by their decision to substantially reduce the price of Snow Leopard Server by 95% to the currently same price as Snow Leopard client -- $20!

 

[joecool99]

thanks for replies - i'll go with 10.6 server.

 

[dyt1983]

With all due respect, this answer is just FLAT WRONG!

You're right, that was a typo. Snow Leopard Client. However, if you just read the sentence following that, you would have realized the correct intent and it was obviously a typo.

 

[MichaelLAX]

You're right, that was a typo. Snow Leopard Client. However, if you just read the sentence following that, you would have realized the correct intent and it was obviously a typo.

If you check the definition of "typo" you will see that using the word "Server" instead of the word "client" is HARDLY a typo! In the context of what you were telling the OP, it was a clear error that would only serve to confuse him!

The addition of a second sentence could never correct the misconception caused by the error in your first sentence.

The second sentence, as originally written before you have now edited it and corrected it, was also misleading, but I did not see the need to "pile on" after pointing out the first error.

When someone points out an error in one of my posts, rather than chide him, I often thank him; especially when the error causes the OP to have the exact opposite information he needs!

 

[dyt1983]

If you check the definition of "typo" you will see that using the word "Server" instead of the word "client" is HARDLY a typo! In the context of what you were telling the OP, it was a clear error that would only serve to confuse him!

The addition of a second sentence could never correct the misconception caused by the error in your first sentence.

The second sentence, as originally written before you have now edited it and corrected it, was also misleading, but I did not see the need to "pile on" after pointing out the first error.

Contrary to your allegation, the second sentence was not corrected. The only edit I made to the whole post was to correct the word "server" to "client" in the first sentence. In general usage, it could be considered a typo because it contradicted what was written after that. Apparently the OP did understand, and if you were unable to, it's OK because I was clearly not trying to address you (I've actively tried to avoid that, but felt this time I had to acknowledge the correction).

p.s. If you're such a stickler for a definition, please stop with the "Urban Myth" label for the mistaken belief that many have about Snow Leopard Client virtualization and the EULA. It's not a "common Urban Myth" by the strict definition. It's just a widespread mistaken belief.

When someone points out an error in one of my posts, rather than chide him, I often thank him; especially when the error causes the OP to have the exact opposite information he needs!

I bet those posts are also much longer than they need to be!

 

[redheeler]

thanks for replies - i'll go with 10.6 server.

Fair enough, if you don't mind spending an extra $20 it will be the easiest and most hastle-free way to go.

 

[MichaelLAX]

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Let me know when you have finished adding new substantive material to your post...

In the meantime: "A myth is as good as a mile!" #

 

[MichaelLAX]

p.s. If you're such a stickler for a definition, please stop with the "Urban Myth" label for the mistaken belief that many have about Snow Leopard Client virtualization and the EULA. It's not a "common Urban Myth" by the strict definition. It's just a widespread mistaken belief.!

The Online Merriam-Webster dictionary defines "myth" as: an idea or story that is believed by many people but that is not true.

I like to call it an "Urban Myth" as a play on the phrase "urban legend!"

So, in other words; it is a belief that is widespread and mistaken!

Nice to know you correctly believe that it is a "mistaken" belief!