Pages keeps falling over

[kirbyrun]

iWorks support have responded and asked if they can get in touch for more information. Of course I said they could.

Excellent! I love that team!

 

[splifingate]

FWIW, I opened it on my Studio 64/2, and it's quite fluid.

btw, that's some really nice work . . . your dedication to detail seasons my appreciation with a large dash of envy

 

[polyphenol]

FWIW, I opened it on my Studio 64/2, and it's quite fluid.

btw, that's some really nice work . . . your dedication to detail seasons my appreciation with a large dash of envy

Thank you!

I've had the basic information in Word documents for a few years now. Gathering it all together took a LOT of effort.

But switching to Pages has been interesting with much to appreciate. And not so hard as the original creation. But changing from A4 to A5 meant a lot of rethinklng. However, it is much more viewable on smaller devices.

Some of this is the information many need. And you simply cannot expect people who are ill, possible suffering what we call "brain fog", along with multiple physical symptoms, to work their way round the internet finding it. Still less as many are towards the computer illiterate end of the scale.

 

[splifingate]

Thank you!

I've had the basic information in Word documents for a few years now. Gathering it all together took a LOT of effort.

Aye; no surprise there, really!

I still use Word, on occasion; but those days are numbered. I just don't really need it anymore.

But switching to Pages has been interesting with much to appreciate. And not so hard as the original creation. But changing from A4 to A5 meant a lot of rethinklng. However, it is much more viewable on smaller devices.

Curious: A5 is half of A4 . . . how was it a difficult time-intensive process?

Some of this is the information many need. And you simply cannot expect people who are ill, possible suffering what we call "brain fog", along with multiple physical symptoms, to work their way round the internet finding it. Still less as many are towards the computer illiterate end of the scale.

Thyroid can be derived from basidiomycetes?!? I never woulda thunk it 🤷‍♂️

 

[polyphenol]

Aye; no surprise there, really!

I still use Word, on occasion; but those days are numbered. I just don't really need it anymore.



Curious: A5 is half of A4 . . . how was it a difficult time-intensive process?



Thyroid can be derived from basidiomycetes?!? I never woulda thunk it 🤷‍♂️

Two reasons I find it difficult to get away from Word: Familiarity and a significant number of documents complex enough to make conversion to anything else less than satisfactory.

Yes, A5 is half A4, but I had to rethink the layout completely. Also - as I was doing it, I tried to make products align with pages, make headers more obvious/visible when scrolling or using Table of Contents on a small screen, etc. And revised overall organisation (i.e. number of documents and contents of each one).

I look at thyroid as being ultimately derived from the need for extremely primitive organisms to avoid poisoning by iodine. That need has been there since the first microorganisms came into being. Some form of iodine binding was an answer. And that bound iodine then very slowly developed into something that could be exploited. Whether as a way of moving iodine around cells, and later multicellular organisms, without damaging themselves, using iodine to kill invasive organisms, or acting as a messenger, or supporting some chemical reactions and synthesis.

Thus pre-thyroid iodine pathways have existed pretty much throughout life - across all kingdoms. Some of them result in compounds that are similar to actual mammalian thyroid hormones, or are precursors of them. And the genetic makeup that handles iodine and thyroid is incredibly well conserved.

 

[splifingate]

Two reasons I find it difficult to get away from Word: Familiarity and a significant number of documents complex enough to make conversion to anything else less than satisfactory.

Yes, A5 is half A4, but I had to rethink the layout completely. Also - as I was doing it, I tried to make products align with pages, make headers more obvious/visible when scrolling or using Table of Contents on a small screen, etc. And revised overall organisation (i.e. number of documents and contents of each one).

I infer from this that you are exporting to (responsive-HTML-intended) mobile devices?

Have you achieved more satisfactory performance and operation, since your initial post?

I look at thyroid as being ultimately derived from the need for extremely primitive organisms to avoid poisoning by iodine. That need has been there since the first microorganisms came into being. Some form of iodine binding was an answer. And that bound iodine then very slowly developed into something that could be exploited. Whether as a way of moving iodine around cells, and later multicellular organisms, without damaging themselves, using iodine to kill invasive organisms, or acting as a messenger, or supporting some chemical reactions and synthesis.

This!

Thank you for sharing

Thus pre-thyroid iodine pathways have existed pretty much throughout life - across all kingdoms. Some of them result in compounds that are similar to actual mammalian thyroid hormones, or are precursors of them. And the genetic makeup that handles iodine and thyroid is incredibly well conserved.

[OT]

I read someone's blog--somewhere in the past few years--where they (they, who say things) asserted that their health greatly benefited from switching from the supposedly-pure salts of the Himalayas back to regular-ole iodide-infused salts.

I, myself, am not a regular user of salts in any of my cooking. I do, however, employ any form of basidio is said cooking.

oops!@ . . . I just now realised that helvella crispa is an ascomycete 🧐

Well, you've certainly got me obsessing on the "Learning More" path, polyphenol!

 

[polyphenol]

I infer from this that you are exporting to (responsive-HTML-intended) mobile devices?

Have you achieved more satisfactory performance and operation, since your initial post?



This!

Thank you for sharing



[OT]

I read someone's blog--somewhere in the past few years--where they (they, who say things) asserted that their health greatly benefited from switching from the supposedly-pure salts of the Himalayas back to regular-ole iodide-infused salts.

I, myself, am not a regular user of salts in any of my cooking. I do, however, employ any form of basidio is said cooking.

oops!@ . . . I just now realised that helvella crispa is an ascomycete 🧐

Well, you've certainly got me obsessing on the "Learning More" path, polyphenol!

I simply provide a link to a PDF! Then they do as they wish. I know a large proportion use smart phones (I think around 80% of activity on a thyroid forum is from such devices) but no idea how many also have tablets, laptops, desktops.

I have considered other options like EPUB but am not convinced it is worth it. My first attempts testing EPUB resulted in a total mess. Somewhat better now I am using Pages rather than some third-party conversion from Word/PDF.

Pages is still falling over. Three times yesterday. And I am as sure as I can be that it is related to mouse wheel scrolling. (That doesn't, of course, preclude other scrolling also causing it.)

Sent lots of info to Apple. And obsessively save now!

Salt in UK is almost never iodised! But imported factory-produced foods from Germany and Poland often used iodised salt. The big problem is that iodine itself is a complex topic. There seems to be a difference in tolerance depending on whether the individual has always had a reasonable amount or grew up with low to deficient iodine.

High iodine intake is associated with increased levels of thyroid autoimmune disease. And low iodine intake is associated with poor levels of thyroid hormone, sometimes goitre, etc.

But despite research, there still seems little good science on which to base changes to iodine intake except towards the extremes.

 

[splifingate]

Pages is still falling over. Three times yesterday. And I am as sure as I can be that it is related to mouse wheel scrolling. (That doesn't, of course, preclude other scrolling also causing it.)

Sent lots of info to Apple. And obsessively save now!

I exclusively use a touch-/track-pad (of the Official Apple Variety), and your document in Pages is entirely functional.

 

[splifingate]

But despite research, there still seems little good science on which to base changes to iodine intake except towards the extremes.

Yeah; we are amidst the blue-birds, in such territory!

My first experience post-Monterey is with Sonoma on the Mac Studio M2-Max.

This was the default installation.

I have noticed (here @MR (and elsewhere)) more complaints/problems with transitional installations (e.g., 'Monterey -> Ventura -> Sonoma'; or, 'Ventura -> Sonoma').

Is it within your capacity/perview to initialise a new install of Sonoma?

I used to 'upgrade' my systems back in the day, but--as I have come to find--having all "My Precious" stuff in iCloud relegates Migration to as moot a point as a moot point can be

There are only so many hours in a day; and--of course--these things, suggestively, are supposed to "just work"....

 

[eRondeau]

Any modifications to your Mac or MacOS? OCLP specifically? I've got a Late-2012 27" iMac w/ 3.4GHz Quad-Core i7 running OCLP Ventura that crashes whenever I try to insert a picture into Pages (or any iWork app). Otherwise it's a very stable system.

 

[polyphenol]

Any modifications to your Mac or MacOS? OCLP specifically? I've got a Late-2012 27" iMac w/ 3.4GHz Quad-Core i7 running OCLP Ventura that crashes whenever I try to insert a picture into Pages (or any iWork app). Otherwise it's a very stable system.

I'm not aware of having done anything "odd" or special. I think both arrived as Monterey and updated in the usual fashion to Ventura and Sonoma. Nothing else looks at all questionable or odd.

But it is definitely a question that needed to be asked.

 

[polyphenol]

Yeah; we are amidst the blue-birds, in such territory!

My first experience post-Monterey is with Sonoma on the Mac Studio M2-Max.

This was the default installation.

I have noticed (here @MR (and elsewhere)) more complaints/problems with transitional installations (e.g., 'Monterey -> Ventura -> Sonoma'; or, 'Ventura -> Sonoma').

Is it within your capacity/perview to initialise a new install of Sonoma?

I used to 'upgrade' my systems back in the day, but--as I have come to find--having all "My Precious" stuff in iCloud relegates Migration to as moot a point as a moot point can be

There are only so many hours in a day; and--of course--these things, suggestively, are supposed to "just work"....

From where I am, with iWorks team investigating, I'll see what they come up with.

I'm a relatively new convert to macOS so not keen on doing things like new installs. I just don't feel confident and am all too aware how easy it is to miss things when trying to do so.

 

[splifingate]

From where I am, with iWorks team investigating, I'll see what they come up with.

I bet it will be something good!

I'm a relatively new convert to macOS so not keen on doing things like new installs. I just don't feel confident and am all too aware how easy it is to miss things when trying to do so.

Oh, that's entirely understandable (even the case for those who have done-so many a time).

I realise that these are (in a lot of ways) "Support" forums, but I do see a lot of folks having unintended difficulties and problems.

Received one of the first 2006 Mac Pro's shipped, progressed to a 2012 Mac Pro, added a 2015 MBP, and just started using an M2 Mac Studio.

All these systems initially (and for looong periods of time) performed perfectly *knock on wooden table*

I hope your experience going further is better

 

[polyphenol]

Just adding an update.

I'm still getting the issue - Pages 14.2 on Sequoia. But happens much less often.

I suspect that some background process is doing something (such as repaginating and updating Table of Contents) at the same time as I am scrolling - and a clash of some sort is resulting.

Every crash is reported to Apple...