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At $150 MSO is steep for personal use. Ironically during my career, Apple Works and Pages filled the bill. :(
Perhaps, but if you're looking at features that only are in Office (or in other words absent in the competition), wouldn't it be normal to expect to pay for them? The subscription option at 9.99 a month or the personal use which is 70 dollars for the year might be a solution.

Regardless if its personal use, if you need the features to make your life easier, wouldn't it be worth it?
 
Perhaps, but if you're looking at features that only are in Office (or in other words absent in the competition), wouldn't it be normal to expect to pay for them? The subscription option at 9.99 a month or the personal use which is 70 dollars for the year might be a solution.

Regardless if its personal use, if you need the features to make your life easier, wouldn't it be worth it?

Ultimately, yes. :)
 
I have to say give MS Office another look. Its is the gold standard when it comes to Office apps. All the others strive to be like it but none have been able to set themselves apart.

After looking at Office it seems to require a subscription? If so, no frick'n way. :) Bookmarks or a function similar to Pages v4.0 bookmakrs seem to be my primary requirement at this point. It would also be nice to pull up multiple views of different pages in the same document. Also eradicated in Pages v5.0.

Yes I'm back to actively seeking a Pages v4.0 alternative. I just downloaded the latest Libre Office version, had issues installing it and although I got it sorted out through a terminal command, free, you get what you pay for!, crossed my mind, but I'm casual enough I'll never pay for a subscription for such a product.
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OpenOffice - specifically the Writer component might do the trick.

These free suites seem troublesome to some degree. See my description above of my latest LibreOffice install.
 
Yes I'm back to actively seeking a Pages v4.0 alternative. I just downloaded the latest Libre Office version, had issues installing it and although I got it sorted out through a terminal command, free, you get what you pay for!, crossed my mind, but I'm casual enough I'll never pay for a subscription for such a product.
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These free suites seem troublesome to some degree. See my description above of my latest LibreOffice install.
What version of OSX did you attempt to install it on?
 
What version of OSX did you attempt to install it on?
MacOS v10.10.5

Here's what I ended up doing to fix the issue.

Downloaded v 5.2.1 and it would not open properly. The issue was on initial startup the application would hang on first run verification. Went to this link (https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/ques...3-stuck-on-verifying-mac-os-x-yosemite-10105/) I looked it up but I'm not exactly sure what this terminal command did.

If verifying application on first start after download and installation is stuck forever, got to Terminal and enter:
xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/LibreOffice.app
 
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After some comparison, I've decided to go with Nisus Writer Pro as a Pages replacement. So far so good! I've started with a post in a Nisus Thread about text size editing. :)

After using Nisus Writer Pro for a year, I'm very happy with it as a Pages replacement for word processing. However, it does not replace the Pages 09 Page Layout feature, and I still find myself going back to Pages 09 for that purpose. I suppose eventually Pages 09 will stop working, so I'm soliciting a replacement for a low cost replacement to fulfill the page layout feature of Pages. Any helpful suggestions appreciated!

Thanks! :)
 
After using Nisus Writer Pro for a year, I'm very happy with it as a Pages replacement for word processing. However, it does not replace the Pages 09 Page Layout feature, and I still find myself going back to Pages 09 for that purpose. I suppose eventually Pages 09 will stop working, so I'm soliciting a replacement for a low cost replacement to fulfill the page layout feature of Pages. Any helpful suggestions appreciated!

Thanks! :)
If it can't replace Pages 09 then why go with that over the latest version of Pages or LibreOffice Writer?
 
I have used very many of the Mac word processing and DTP programs in existence.
Conclusion: if you want a good WP program that also is a good DTP program, Pages is by far the best choice.
Word and the various **Office programs do work, but they are a good deal more difficult to use than Pages.
Also, InDesign, iStudio Publisher, iCalamus and all, are excellent DTP programs but, again, are difficult to use as WP programs.
Pages '09 is very good, but the current version has gotten pretty close, at least on Sierra 10.12.6.
Good luck.
 
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I guess their emphasis is on iOS centric?
I hope their ROI of iOS will insure us a rock solid macOS for a very long time. Their strategy is a discussion on it's own... I wish their primary target audience would be just a little more like me.
if you want a good WP program that also is a good DTP program, Pages is by far the best choice.
I think pages is not a serious attempt to be a DTP application. Too many features are missing. For home use layout needs it's o.k., but I wouldn't call it a good DTP program, but an easy one. Maybe that's where the problem is. DTP software needs some special knowledge, like most other pro grade applications do.
Thank you for pointing to iStudio Publisher and iCalamus. I'll try them out, but respectively wait/hope for Affinity Publisher to get released. Did you also try Swift Publisher (more like Pages) and VivaDesigner (more like InDesign)?
 
I have used very many of the Mac word processing and DTP programs in existence.
Conclusion: if you want a good WP program that also is a good DTP program, Pages is by far the best choice.
Word and the various **Office programs do work, but they are a good deal more difficult to use than Pages.
Also, InDesign, iStudio Publisher, iCalamus and all, are excellent DTP programs but, again, are difficult to use as WP programs.
Pages '09 is very good, but the current version has gotten pretty close, at least on Sierra 10.12.6.
Good luck.

I hope their ROI of iOS will insure us a rock solid macOS for a very long time. Their strategy is a discussion on it's own... I wish their primary target audience would be just a little more like me.

I think pages is not a serious attempt to be a DTP application. Too many features are missing. For home use layout needs it's o.k., but I wouldn't call it a good DTP program, but an easy one. Maybe that's where the problem is. DTP software needs some special knowledge, like most other pro grade applications do.
Thank you for pointing to iStudio Publisher and iCalamus. I'll try them out, but respectively wait/hope for Affinity Publisher to get released. Did you also try Swift Publisher (more like Pages) and VivaDesigner (more like InDesign)?

Pages (the 09 version) used to be quite competent for my layout purposes and the new version sucks in comparison. Unless I'm not seeing the Inspector, and it's hidden somewhere, they really dumbed it down.
 
Buy an external hard drive and back up your current system to it. If Apple "breaks" '09, boot into that when you want to work with DTP side of the great Pages '09. Meanwhile, you can keep your main system up to date. Hard drives are cheap. Just do it.

IMO, Pages '09 was a simple DTP masterpiece. So of course it had to be set aside and replaced by something without many of those masterpiece features. iPhone rules all.
 
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I have used very many of the Mac word processing and DTP programs in existence.
Conclusion: if you want a good WP program that also is a good DTP program, Pages is by far the best choice.
Word and the various **Office programs do work, but they are a good deal more difficult to use than Pages.
Also, InDesign, iStudio Publisher, iCalamus and all, are excellent DTP programs but, again, are difficult to use as WP programs.
Pages '09 is very good, but the current version has gotten pretty close, at least on Sierra 10.12.6.
Good luck.
Maybe I just don't understand the latest version of Oage Where is the equivalent of the many paged Inspector window?
Have you looked at View>>Inspector

Gulp... will report back.
 
Looks like borrowed time ended with MOJAVE. Word to anyone...dont upgrade past High Sierra! :/

Also trying to figure out how to recover inaccessible docs now
 
The importance of bookmarks to me, is that when working with a long document, I depend on the bookmark window to quickly jump/navigate around the document.

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I'm not a bookmarks user, but I see that in the latest Pages (version 8.0) bookmarks are supported in addition to a table of contents. Either can be used to navigate the document. Applies to document only, not page layout.
 
I'm not a bookmarks user, but I see that in the latest Pages (version 8.0) bookmarks are supported in addition to a table of contents. Either can be used to navigate the document. Applies to document only, not page layout.
This is good to know! It’s just sad that Pages is less than AppleWorks, and if I’m remembering this correctly, Pages was dumbed down from its initial version, although I’m fuzzy now if the original Pages had bookmarks.
 
This is good to know! It’s just sad that Pages is less than AppleWorks, and if I’m remembering this correctly, Pages was dumbed down from its initial version, although I’m fuzzy now if the original Pages had bookmarks.
The last great version of Pages (iWork '09, v.4.3) does indeed have bookmarks. When Apple introduced iWork for iOS, they "dumbed down" the OSX version so that there would be operational parity between the two versions. Since then, they've been slowly re-adding those features (and adding new features exclusive to these new versions) but latest version of iWork still does not include all of the past functionality found in iWork '09.
 
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The last great version of Pages (iWork '09, v.4.3) does indeed have bookmarks. When Apple introduced iWork for iOS, they "dumbed down" the OSX version so that there would be operational parity between the two versions. Since then, they've been slowly re-adding those features (and adding new features exclusive to these new versions) but latest version of iWork still does not include all of the past functionality found in iWork '09.
I’ve been using Nisus Writer Pro for a couple of years now and am happy with it, although I still miss what AppleWorks had, and I occasionally revert to Pages, when I need page layout.

AppleWorks was a killer app! I created a 20 page, half page template, that served me well for creating compact half page sized notes, that went into small binders that I used when flying as a pilot and brought on the road for my studies.
 
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