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Panthe Pics! (7B85)
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Windows (NT anyways) does the resizing in an inferior way. It doesn't seem to treat a window like it is on its own layer, like OS X. If one of my Windows apps locks up, it leaves a big grey block where the window was, and I can't get rid of it - OS X doesn't do that. I much prefer the OS X method.
I most definitely prefer the quartz method of resizing windows, much better than XP.
As for the speed, the reason is three fold, and this is based off my research, so it may not be 100% correct (but I'm a developer, so at least I know most of it is).
- GCC 3.3 - It has a new method of arranging the instructions for a PPC processor (G3, G4, G5) which has brought about a massive performance boost (bigger than from 2.9.5 to 3.1 in my testing). This should only become better as time progresses and Apple keeps adding optimizations to the compiler.
- Quartz - From my research Apple spent a considerable amount (read 20%) of all the OS teams resources on making quartz faster and less of a memory hog. They have improved the window buffering time, the drawing to the screen time and lowered the GPU requirements when handling windows. Window resizing is faster (most definitely in the Finder) but not 'that' fast as to write home about it. Its most definitely an improvement over 10.1 speeds, but not as much as 10.2. (This is from testing on a GeForce 4MX and GeForce 4 Go). Quartz also seems to handle separate drawing threads better, in that a user interface element in Jaguar could drag down the entire interface if it was needing to be redrawn a lot, now that seems to be improved and negated.
- Memory Management - As far as I can tell, the handling of the cache and RAM has improved drastically. Mac OS X now keeps a handy 12-20mb of RAM free for instantaneous tasks when its nearing the max amount of RAM which has the advantage of improving the perceived performance of the interface markeably as the machine gets bogged down. Also, applications that are not being used are handled much better in the cache allowing the applications you are using to perform to their full potential. Overall everything is snappier from these improvements.
I think this is a good example as to what all these changes have done...on my PowerBook 867, iTunes 4 in Jaguar uses are 12-14% CPU based on my normal work usage (EQ and sound enhancement on). In Panther, it uses 7-9%, a drastic increase in performance with little to no code changes.
I hope this assists everyone.
Mat
As for the speed, the reason is three fold, and this is based off my research, so it may not be 100% correct (but I'm a developer, so at least I know most of it is).
- GCC 3.3 - It has a new method of arranging the instructions for a PPC processor (G3, G4, G5) which has brought about a massive performance boost (bigger than from 2.9.5 to 3.1 in my testing). This should only become better as time progresses and Apple keeps adding optimizations to the compiler.
- Quartz - From my research Apple spent a considerable amount (read 20%) of all the OS teams resources on making quartz faster and less of a memory hog. They have improved the window buffering time, the drawing to the screen time and lowered the GPU requirements when handling windows. Window resizing is faster (most definitely in the Finder) but not 'that' fast as to write home about it. Its most definitely an improvement over 10.1 speeds, but not as much as 10.2. (This is from testing on a GeForce 4MX and GeForce 4 Go). Quartz also seems to handle separate drawing threads better, in that a user interface element in Jaguar could drag down the entire interface if it was needing to be redrawn a lot, now that seems to be improved and negated.
- Memory Management - As far as I can tell, the handling of the cache and RAM has improved drastically. Mac OS X now keeps a handy 12-20mb of RAM free for instantaneous tasks when its nearing the max amount of RAM which has the advantage of improving the perceived performance of the interface markeably as the machine gets bogged down. Also, applications that are not being used are handled much better in the cache allowing the applications you are using to perform to their full potential. Overall everything is snappier from these improvements.
I think this is a good example as to what all these changes have done...on my PowerBook 867, iTunes 4 in Jaguar uses are 12-14% CPU based on my normal work usage (EQ and sound enhancement on). In Panther, it uses 7-9%, a drastic increase in performance with little to no code changes.
I hope this assists everyone.
Mat
here you are:http://www.macsnaps.com/snaps/desktop/1065566503.jpg
Image hyperlinked so people dont have to wait forever to load the thread.
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here is exposé
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Hey G5orBust, does exposé support dual monitors? (i dunno if you know, I just wanted to ask....)
On a dual 867 G4 with 7B80 and 512MB of ram speed is "OS-9ish", but I'm not at all certain it's as fast as OS9 (in UI responsiveness. If you count the lags in OS9 due to poor multitasking, it's a good deal faster for most real world uses).
As for why it's faster:
New compiler (as stated above, although I would hardly describe the speed increase in GCC3.3 as "drastic"), more optimized code (its a lot better about figuring out which parts of a window actually have to be redrawn when something changes, for example. Text handling was especially heavily optimized), a mysterious technology called "2d on Quartz Extreme" (note: this is NOT the same as Quartz Extreme), and assorted other things (massively better PDF code sped up Preview a TON for example).
As for why it's faster:
New compiler (as stated above, although I would hardly describe the speed increase in GCC3.3 as "drastic"), more optimized code (its a lot better about figuring out which parts of a window actually have to be redrawn when something changes, for example. Text handling was especially heavily optimized), a mysterious technology called "2d on Quartz Extreme" (note: this is NOT the same as Quartz Extreme), and assorted other things (massively better PDF code sped up Preview a TON for example).
As much as I want to walk downstaris to grab my 90lb CRT monitor to test....
But, yes, I believe it does support dual monitors. Im not exactly sure where I heard that, though, so dont, necessarily, take my word as truth.
Ill try and find you a definite answer soon.
...But if you go to Spymac.com, you see a different theme (w/o stripes)...
http://www.spymac.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56158&papass=&sort=1&thecat=998
Is there a way to change the theme??
http://www.spymac.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56158&papass=&sort=1&thecat=998
Is there a way to change the theme??
Thanks G5orbust.
Dr. No asks an interesting question. Is Panther themeable? I never trusted Duality or any of those other themers (low level mods just plain scare the crap out of me....), but if Panther came with a way to Theme certain aspects of it, that, IMHO, would be awesome.
then again, I'm sure we would have seen or heard about it on the earlier developer builds...
Dr. No asks an interesting question. Is Panther themeable? I never trusted Duality or any of those other themers (low level mods just plain scare the crap out of me....), but if Panther came with a way to Theme certain aspects of it, that, IMHO, would be awesome.
then again, I'm sure we would have seen or heard about it on the earlier developer builds...
