You should blame bad developers and programmers of those programs.
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You should blame bad developers and programmers of those programs.
You don't have the slightest clue pal. People use windows programs that are decades old. x86 runs them fine.
Like several other steps along the path to transitioning to dealing with Apple’s hyper visor framework as a foundation , VMWare is a bit behind the curve .
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While things have been a tad slower than we were hoping to see on the Windows on Mac computers with Apple silicon front, we haven’t been just resting. Instead, we used this time
to work with Arm, Inc. in certifying VMware Fusion 13 with the Arm System Ready certification program.
Arm System Ready is a certification program offered by Arm that ensures platform compatibility across physical and virtual hardware environments.
This means that an Operating System that is certified as System Ready will also be able to be ran in a Virtual Machine on VMware Fusion for Apple silicon, as well as
other System Ready certified hardware. Users can build applications and more that are destined for a physical device before even having one by using a virtual machine on
Apple silicon with Fusion. …”
Microsoft Now Officially Supports Windows on Mac computers with Apple silicon
Exciting news out of Redmond today as Microsoft has expressed commitment to fully support Windows on Arm in virtual machines on Apple hardware. After years of development and effort to make Fusion support Windows on Arm _without_ explicit support, and even in the face of ambiguity in several...
i think VMWare is slowed down a bit due to the overhead of coordinating with ARM VM running on other Os and other context ( on their own hypervisor)
the ARM system ready program says
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SystemReady VE is designed for the Windows, Linux, and BSD operating systems on Arm-based virtualization environments. SystemReady VE ensures standard firmware interfaces to deploy and maintain the OSs in virtual machines, reducing the cost of supporting multiple software versions. It also aims to support old operating systems to run on new virtual environments and vice versa, and targets generic off-the-shelf OSs.
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And yet, you have yet to name a single one you tried.
So the developers are to blame for not updating apps in decades. You just proved hans' point with that comment...
Hardly. It's more of a budget thing, new software and software rewrites are VERY expensive.
That's the main reason Windows is king of the corporate world, they save us money.
Not updating an app in decades seems to be more a case of abandoning the application rather than a budgetary thing. What Window "saves" in software and hardware costs is often made up by the costs of IT support, staffing, and service issues.
Pretty sure studies have shown that Macs are an order of magnitude less expensive to maintain. Granted macOS is missing a lot of the corporate features required, but Windows doesn’t actually save any organization any money in the long run.
That's not the way corporate stuff works, It stays until you can budget to replace it, or there comes a business reason to do it. If it's still used, it's not abanded in any way, there are even small changes to it all the time. Software for a lot corp types isn't a money making thing, it's a pure cost center.
That hasn't been the case for me, but that's not universal.
I disagree a whole bunch, but that's personal opinion. What isn't personal opinion is what it runs, or not, as the case may be. Mac's don't run the software we need, so they aren't even in the equation. I only use Mac's at home. Backwards compatibility means a lot...
Maybe it's just me, but why would anyone base their livelihood, business, job, etc. on software that is very very old - maybe decades old - which has not been updated, on technologies deprecated potentially, and as one person stated, has not been supported for years? What if there is a serious problem at a crucial time? Even if the answer is "not my choice, the employer's....", what employer, if it's explained properly would risk the liability of basing their business on this kind of software unless what it's being used for really doesn't;t matter to the business?
Without specifics on the apps concerned, this seems unbelievable, incredulous, sketchy, ill-informed, of poor judgment...can't figure out which.
Without specifics on the apps concerned, this seems unbelievable, incredulous, sketchy, ill-informed, of poor judgment...can't figure out which.
None of the above.
All I can say is you don't work in that setting, so you don't have any experience with it. It costs a lot of money where there isn't any budget to replace software that doesn't gain you a thing. Think of it as a ROI problem. If you use that type of ideal you'll understand perfectly why they, and I, keep running things indefinitely. You actually have to gain as much as you spend, and you don't do that just replacing old software with something that does the same thing.
And it very much matters to the business, but they don't make any more money with it, they just are able to keep their inventory, orders, AP's, reporting, payroll, whatever all in line. ERP software if you want to look it up, it's a whole category of business software that individuals never see. Like Quickbooks, only on steroids.
None of the above.
All I can say is you don't work in that setting, so you don't have any experience with it. It costs a lot of money where there isn't any budget to replace software that doesn't gain you a thing. Think of it as a ROI problem. If you use that type of ideal you'll understand perfectly why they, and I, keep running things indefinitely. You actually have to gain as much as you spend, and you don't do that just replacing old software with something that does the same thing.
And it very much matters to the business, but they don't make any more money with it, they just are able to keep their inventory, orders, AP's, reporting, payroll, whatever all in line. ERP software if you want to look it up, it's a whole category of business software that individuals never see. Like Quickbooks, only on steroids.
It could be that the businesses you've worked for are thinking on a shorter timeframe. This is pretty normal, but it's not necessarily optimal. It takes enormous effort and the right kind of culture to make these changes, and if that isn't there, then of course a bunch of middle managers aren't going to shake things up when there is no immediate benefit to doing so.
Risk mitigation- many companies do not think this way. Audits cite these kinds of practices. If it stops working tomorrow? No plan. Bad business practice.None of the above.
All I can say is you don't work in that setting, so you don't have any experience with it. It costs a lot of money where there isn't any budget to replace software that doesn't gain you a thing. Think of it as a ROI problem. If you use that type of ideal you'll understand perfectly why they, and I, keep running things indefinitely. You actually have to gain as much as you spend, and you don't do that just replacing old software with something that does the same thing.
And it very much matters to the business, but they don't make any more money with it, they just are able to keep their inventory, orders, AP's, reporting, payroll, whatever all in line. ERP software if you want to look it up, it's a whole category of business software that individuals never see. Like Quickbooks, only on steroids.
Who says we don't have a plan if it stops working? (we do)
And do remember we probably have the source and can fix it ourselves.
If it saves money, it's optimal, and it does save money. Remember this kind of thing is a cost, and only a cost. The company makes no money from it's IT. Spending more just to get newer stuff that does the same has no ROI.
And you really don't understand the scale money we're talking here. Big projects are in the millions. Smaller companies in the 10's of thousands to hundreds of thousands. This is not off the shelf software, it's purchased or locally developed software that has to be customized to the business segment and area.
I'm not saying this is bad news. I'm glad Microsoft is finally playing ball here. I'd be happier if VMware Fusion was also a partner, but I'm sure that's not too far behind.
But, the fact of the matter is that there are still some apps that won't run well or at all on the ARM64 version of Windows 11. If I were an IT department, I'd THOROUGHLY vet whether or not the user trying to load a VM, presumably one provisioned by department staff (either joined to Active Directory, Azure Active Directory and managed via Intune, or a hybrid deployment), could still do their work in that VM with no issues before I set out deploying it to Mac users.
Then again, it's EXTREMELY rare for a user to NEED either Mac-exclusive applications or applications where the Mac version is superior AND ALSO need to use a Windows-exclusive application. In cases where the apps work fine on both platforms, but there's need of a Windows-only application, it makes much more sense to just...dare I say it...issue that person a Windows computer instead.
But, the fact of the matter is that there are still some apps that won't run well or at all on the ARM64 version of Windows 11. If I were an IT department, I'd THOROUGHLY vet whether or not the user trying to load a VM, presumably one provisioned by department staff (either joined to Active Directory, Azure Active Directory and managed via Intune, or a hybrid deployment), could still do their work in that VM with no issues before I set out deploying it to Mac users.
Then again, it's EXTREMELY rare for a user to NEED either Mac-exclusive applications or applications where the Mac version is superior AND ALSO need to use a Windows-exclusive application. In cases where the apps work fine on both platforms, but there's need of a Windows-only application, it makes much more sense to just...dare I say it...issue that person a Windows computer instead.
Allways the same discussions......... for Decades now.
I am using what i want to and in addition what i have to so i use a Mac also cause it is a BSD Unix based System that gives me much less Problems when administrating Linux Server Farms and for just one task when Billing based on a MariaDB Data cause i do not whant to rewrite an very old VB6 Proggy i use Windows Arm in UTM with the MariaDB 32Bit connector/ODBC and made the VB6 Proggy run with just registering a dll.
And here we have the Case of an decades old Program still running on a VM inside the MBA M2 on UTM, hurray.
Well there is no Programmer left who could update this so i would have to Program this new, nope.
Not to forget the XAMPP / HeidiSQL / Office 2021 / WinSCP / Atom / and so on all running on the Win11 Arm VM fast and reliable.
Love it.
Also to aquire an MBA M2 was just the right time to enter AS cause everything is working now.
I am using what i want to and in addition what i have to so i use a Mac also cause it is a BSD Unix based System that gives me much less Problems when administrating Linux Server Farms and for just one task when Billing based on a MariaDB Data cause i do not whant to rewrite an very old VB6 Proggy i use Windows Arm in UTM with the MariaDB 32Bit connector/ODBC and made the VB6 Proggy run with just registering a dll.
And here we have the Case of an decades old Program still running on a VM inside the MBA M2 on UTM, hurray.
Well there is no Programmer left who could update this so i would have to Program this new, nope.
Not to forget the XAMPP / HeidiSQL / Office 2021 / WinSCP / Atom / and so on all running on the Win11 Arm VM fast and reliable.
Love it.
Also to aquire an MBA M2 was just the right time to enter AS cause everything is working now.
you nerds after to under most businesses are running cheaper Linux servers (no MS Server yearly tax) that last much longer and not replaced until server machines part fail!
Trust me mate I work in the field and most of the equipment is obsolete by design. For instance all passenger ships come with obsolete hardware right out of the shipyard. Even during the design stage the control hardware is obsolete. So yes you need those old laptops with a serial port and sometimes you still need Windows XP. I have even seen recently Windows 2000 on all computers.
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