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PC or imac?

No problem.

As much as I would love to have a 40" tv, I have been out of work for 6 months now and cannot afford it. I sold my MB to get into the new imac and that is all the money I have.

I guess I could buy the smaller imac and get a small HD TV, but I really like the 27".

Also, I have a crazy dog and watching tv is nuts, he won't stop barking unless I give him a rawhide to chew. He's goes through several a night and it is not good for him. I guess yu could say my lifes a mess right now.

I just wanted to explain where I am coming from.

I am too fussy to get a cheaper mac, I know I would regret it.
 
frocco said:
No problem.

As much as I would love to have a 40" tv, I have been out of work for 6 months now and cannot afford it. I sold my MB to get into the new imac and that is all the money I have.

I guess I could buy the smaller imac and get a small HD TV, but I really like the 27".

Also, I have a crazy dog and watching tv is nuts, he won't stop barking unless I give him a rawhide to chew. He's goes through several a night and it is not good for him. I guess yu could say my lifes a mess right now.

I just wanted to explain where I am coming from.

I am too fussy to get a cheaper mac, I know I would regret it.
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Go with the Mac. Splurge my friend! Sorry to hear about your situation, hope it improves for you soon.
 
yourashero said:
I feel like it's pretty true. Windows has always been a resource hog. Not sure about osx 9 but 10.4 seems to crush xp and vista in terms of speed and reliability. Look at Internet browsers. Safari vs. IE whatever they're on now. IE is the WORST browser created.

Although if you really truly know how to keep viruses off your computer and get a copy of XP black, you can save yourself some money... If money is what's important. If you like to download movies and browse the Internet carefree, get the mac. I'm not sure how it can fail you as long as you have the money.

For that guy that thinks it's fanboy talk. He must be happy with windows. And for the fanboy. He likes mac. Just pick what suits you best and you'll make one or the other work for you. I'd say go with the mac because that seems to be the way you're leaning or else you wouldn't Have come onto a mac forum trying to be talked into an HP.
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oh boy, don't believe everything you read.

That goes past ignorant...to negligence.!
 
archipellago said:
oh boy, don't believe everything you read.

That goes past ignorant...to negligence.!
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Ok. There's a small threat there, but which of the two do you have the better chance of carefree browsing and downloading? And if you say windows... Well my guess is that you worship the devil
 
Obviously Vista had its issues and that's why I switched to Mac, but XP SP3 and 7 are solid OS's. My primary computers are Mac's with Snow Leopard, but I run XP on a desktop and 7 on a laptop and they work just fine. I'm perfectly capable of going fanboy and espousing all the reasons why I think the Mac is superior, but increased speed and reliability are not among those reasons.
 
archipellago said:
your last para is just pure ignorance and fanboi waffle...
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Yeah, and I'm a little concerned with any user with "hamster" or "gerbil" in his screen name.

I'm with JMONFIRE use what YOU like,and don't worry about what others think.I have 2 PC's that haven't given me a bit of trouble,and I have 4 macs in my house that haven't given me any trouble either.I like tiger,leopard,XP,Vista (well sorta),and I love my new Dell that kicks ass with the 2.66 intel i7 core that was bought from the Dell outlet store(scratch & dent) for right at $800 OTD.This thing kicks ass and takes names when it comes to encoding video,and it didn't cost me $2000.

I think different,because I think for myself.:cool:
 
ipure said:
u'll need XCode and iphone SDK for iphone programming, i don't think windows can provide that.

also, macs won't equip bluray for a long time to come.
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As far as I know XCode is OSX only. The OP could have Windows on BootCamp and Mac OSX as their main OS. Solves everything!
 
yourashero said:
Ok. There's a small threat there, but which of the two do you have the better chance of carefree browsing and downloading? And if you say windows... Well my guess is that you worship the devil
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don't talk rubbish.

The threat is very real irrespective of the platform. I worship the devil but you downlod torrented movies?

hmm... you are clueless.

mac users are AT LEAST as much at risk as PC users, in my experience even more so because of the ridiculous and misleading ad campaigns Apple run.

Mac users have this misguided and ;simple' view that they are bullett proof on the web....'cos Apple says so..' they have a much more laissez faire approach to it all.

bottom line, if you act dumb on the web you'll get done whether you use Mac, Windows or any other platform.

Apple capitalise with their false messages only because of their miniscule market share and the lack of targeting they receive. They aren't inherently more secure at all.

my profession is fraud detection & deterrent.

you are ridiculous...
 
Me wonders why Windows fans come to a
Mac forum to hang out and cause problems.

I certainly would not waste my time hanging
out in a Windows forum attacking other
members there.

Pity.
 
archipellago said:
don't talk rubbish.

The threat is very real irrespective of the platform. I worship the devil but you downlod torrented movies?

hmm... you are clueless.

mac users are AT LEAST as much at risk as PC users, in my experience even more so because of the ridiculous and misleading ad campaigns Apple run.

Mac users have this misguided and ;simple' view that they are bullett proof on the web....'cos Apple says so..' they have a much more laissez faire approach to it all.

bottom line, if you act dumb on the web you'll get done whether you use Mac, Windows or any other platform.

Apple capitalise with their false messages only because of their miniscule market share and the lack of targeting they receive. They aren't inherently more secure at all.

my profession is fraud detection & deterrent.

you are ridiculous...
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it's hard to take anything you say seriously when the only real message you have in any of your posts is name calling. in a single post you have called another poster clueless, ridiculous and say they talk rubbish. before you go calling people out for being clueless, you might want to learn how to spell first...
 
NJRonbo said:
Me wonders why Windows fans come to a
Mac forum to hang out and cause problems.

I certainly would not waste my time hanging
out in a Windows forum attacking other
members there.

Pity.
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your naive mistake is that someone can only be a fan of one platform. only small-minded people think like this.
 
archipellago said:
don't talk rubbish.

The threat is very real irrespective of the platform. I worship the devil but you downlod torrented movies?

hmm... you are clueless.

mac users are AT LEAST as much at risk as PC users, in my experience even more so because of the ridiculous and misleading ad campaigns Apple run.

Mac users have this misguided and ;simple' view that they are bullett proof on the web....'cos Apple says so..' they have a much more laissez faire approach to it all.

bottom line, if you act dumb on the web you'll get done whether you use Mac, Windows or any other platform.

Apple capitalise with their false messages only because of their miniscule market share and the lack of targeting they receive. They aren't inherently more secure at all.

my profession is fraud detection & deterrent.

you are ridiculous...
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I have a hard time believing that you have a "profession" based on every single post that you've made. Bottom line is that you are obviously having a difficult time with this discussion.

I'll repeat. If you are leaning toward apple. Go that way. If you like windows, go that way. If you're an experienced user, a good PC will do you just fine. But if you give a beginner a pc and a mac, they'll have the PC destroyed in less than a year. That is a FACT.

Pop ups that come from your taskbar that ask you to update software, VIRUS. Programs that install themselves and don't let you do anything but pay for their software to remove it. SCAM. I'm not sure how Microsoft allows their products to be had so easily, but fora beginner, mom, grandparent, any casual user, my opinion is that they are at risk with a PC. That is from what I have personally seen.

But if you know what you're doing, like a "fraud deterrent professional" (my guess is LP at Hot Topic) then you will be FINE.

Get what you like.
 
the problem is we wont be able to settle this , i mean there will never be a winnner here as everybody recommends what he
likes most be it osx ,windows or linux
the good thing is the new iMac`s running osx snow leopard make the decision easy , as it offers bootcamp , so you can run windows on it for your games ,linux for whatever you may need it for and osx ,on the same computer , you can even run them side by side as i understand
with "prallells 5 "
so the choice is easy....... get a iMac
 
Only reason Mac OS doesn't get much virus is because way less people use it, not because it's more secure okay? And Mac has loads of problems too both software/hardcore just like pc, basically if you don't have applecare you are f'ked. So don't mislead OP by saying how mac is more robust than Pc, that's not the case.


Your wrong on the virus issue. UNIX is more secure. It's as simple as that.
Most large corporations rely on UNIX for their servers. Not Windows.

By your logic, the OS with the lowest amount of the OS pie should have the least amount of viruses. And it's not "Hardcore'.:confused: It's hardware. Maybe you wouldn't have as many viruses if you didn't look up "hardcore' porn sites. Where is your mind at?:rolleyes:

By your logic, Linux should have the least amount of viruses. Since they have less marketshare than Mac computers.

Well, that simply isn't the case. Linux has more viruses than Mac. Mac has not a single virus that is known to have infected macs on a wide scale. Not one. You mean to tell me of all the millions of Mac computers out there not a single virus in widespread use has made it's way onto a mac because there is less of them.

No it's because of the file system used. The UNIX file system.


Now with that being said. Windows 7, is very, very good. On par with OSX now, even better in some areas. WMC is better than front row. Way better.

Windows 7 dock is better than the OSX dock. Windows 7 is now just as easy to use as OSX. Fast as well. OSX still boots faster due to the bloatware on most PC's. Take off the bloat ware, and it gets close.

I just bought a HP touchsmart PC with a 23in HD widescreen. I got it for the family room. The imac for work because it's more secure. The screen is just as good as my new Imac 21.5 but a little bigger. Does one better than the imac in it has multi-touch, Blu-ray, TV tuner. Cost the same. With Windows 7 Pc's you get more for your money. But have to put up with viruses. As trojans, and adware can still get on a Mac.

For me it's a toss up. Windows 7 is that good. That is why I own both.

I don't see why it has to be a Windows or Mac debate with some people. There are advantages and disadvantages to both.
 
iMac.

I've been using Windows 7 on one of my laptops ever since the way early beta came out, up until the official release, which was released not too long ago.
And to me personally, mac seems like a much better choice.
one of the reasons being, Windows 7, unfortunately still has those crashes, however it's much faster than vista, and the UI is friendlier.

But getting a mac wold just have way more benefits.
Such as, you can run Windows 7 on it, while still being able to run OS X.
Oh and if this is your main computer that you will be using for everything, GO WITH MAC.
Because if something were to go wrong with your PC, you're basically screwed, and on the phone with HP's terrible customer care. Trust me, I had to learn the hard way, and they'll never pay for you to ship anything to them either. So, anything that goes wrong with your computer, is pretty much coming out of your pocket for the shipping, which isn't cheap. Unless you'd want to fix it yourself.

And Blu-Ray isn't really a big enough lack to get a PC to be honest with you.
You can always find 1080p video that you can playback on your 27" iMac.

Yeah, so pretty much there would be more benefits to getting a iMac than the HP, in my opinion.
 
archipellago said:
don't talk rubbish.

The threat is very real irrespective of the platform. I worship the devil but you downlod torrented movies?

hmm... you are clueless.

mac users are AT LEAST as much at risk as PC users, in my experience even more so because of the ridiculous and misleading ad campaigns Apple run.

Mac users have this misguided and ;simple' view that they are bullett proof on the web....'cos Apple says so..' they have a much more laissez faire approach to it all.

bottom line, if you act dumb on the web you'll get done whether you use Mac, Windows or any other platform.

Apple capitalise with their false messages only because of their miniscule market share and the lack of targeting they receive. They aren't inherently more secure at all.

my profession is fraud detection & deterrent.

you are ridiculous...
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lol right after my reply I saw this person's post and it made me smile a little.

Okay, just to make it clear, Apple never claim that they're at LESS risk, they say that PC viruses are no threat to them, which is true.

And it is a fact that there are way more PC viruses out there than Mac viruses. In my experience you'd actually have to try kinda hard to get a virus on your Mac.
Unlike a PC where the simple act of clicking on a link can infect your computer with some virus.

Now, I'm not saying that Macs are safer than PCs, it actually depends on how smart the user is on the web and with what they download.
 
virus trojans worms

i make it simple to understand if you park your car with all windows down and you leave the key in the lock while you go for a holiday , you cant make the car manufacturer responsible if someone took advantage of that

and there are only more viruses and trojans and worms out there which effect windows , as there are still a lot of people out there, who think they cant go online with a firewall ,because its blocking all the time content of sites when they surf the www and they get annoyed from the many popups from the firewall warning them , so they set the level low or switch it of completely
a lot of people have antivirus programs , but they cant be bothered to update them , and if it updates itself they stop it as its slowing down their computer when updating , but on the other hand the world is not big enough for the same users to complain about windows is virus and trojan and worm infected and microsoft should do something about it , as micrososft has better things to do then solving the problems only caused by the user ,they switch to linux or buy a mac and osx , but do they activate the firewall or install a antivirus program there , no safe systems dont need such things :)

but back to the issue pc or mac , its personal choice
i cant tell you what you have to buy ,its your money
i can only say with a iMac you get best of both worlds as you can install
osx and windows on it and you can even run the systems side by side on the same screen if you wish :)
 
frocco - I'd been debating almost the same thing. My choices were Linux based PC or Apple.

I'd got to the point where I had Microsoftphobia. You know that moment where the computer hesitates and immediately the anxiety builds.

Several months back when Chrome came out I tried it and had been using it ever since on the PC. The damn thing never stopped. IE was locking up and requiring re-boots at what seemed like several times per week.

I finally made a decision and that was I'd been screwed by Microsoft so many times that I'd had enough.

So my chpice was go to PC with Ubuntu, or Apple. Finally I went Apple for the following reasons.

1/ I was actually looking forward to learning Ubuntu and getting into sorting the PC and thought that the process would be fun. I saw the PC as providing more options going forward. It did mean that I would have to figure, sort and learn. The down side was the time it would take and i could see me losing days sorting things. I had planned to clean out one PC and run Ubuntu off that for the next few months while I learned it keeping XP running on the other.

2/ I spoke to many friends that had gone Apple in the last 3 years. They all had the same PC stories I had. But they raved about Apple like I raved about Chrome. It was a breath of fresh air. It just worked. Rave is an understatement for the continual comments I got.

3/ I tried iWorks in at the shop. And the word, excel and powerpoint equivalents just blew me away. All those little things that are annoying were gone.

I need to replace my PC now. In the weekend I ordered the iMac 27. I currently run a 27 inch screen and have been for 3 years. It feels good finally walking away from PC. The problem for me was never the PC but MS. From what I've seen so far the Apple software is just effortless.

MS don't get it. You can only lie to and abuse your customers for so long. I'll continue to run the PC's till the end of their lives in a diminished capacity till XP is no longer supported. Unless I have a go at Ubuntu.

Not only did all the people I know who went Apple rave about them they were adamant they'd never go PC again and urged me to make the leap. Having made the leap it feels good.

I ordered the duo but am really thinking I should have ordered the quad.
 
MacHamster68 said:
virus trojans worms

i make it simple to understand if you park your car with all windows down and you leave the key in the lock while you go for a holiday , you cant make the car manufacturer responsible if someone took advantage of that

and there are only more viruses and trojans and worms out there which effect windows , as there are still a lot of people out there, who think they cant go online with a firewall ,because its blocking all the time content of sites when they surf the www and they get annoyed from the many popups from the firewall warning them , so they set the level low or switch it of completely
a lot of people have antivirus programs , but they cant be bothered to update them , and if it updates itself they stop it as its slowing down their computer when updating , but on the other hand the world is not big enough for the same users to complain about windows is virus and trojan and worm infected and microsoft should do something about it , as micrososft has better things to do then solving the problems only caused by the user ,they switch to linux or buy a mac and osx , but do they activate the firewall or install a antivirus program there , no safe systems dont need such things :)

but back to the issue pc or mac , its personal choice
i cant tell you what you have to buy ,its your money
i can only say with a iMac you get best of both worlds as you can install
osx and windows on it and you can even run the systems side by side on the same screen if you wish :)
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I'm glad to hear that windows 7 is better. Especially because i'd like to wait for the next iMac and get a laptop in the meantime. Or I could go iMac now and sell it later. My parents got hosed on xp sp3 with a virus that wouldn't allow them to do anything. I couldn't delete the processes it had and removal programs and tutorials didn't work.

So when they got their iMac the first thing it did was setup their firewall for them. Best buy wanted $40 to do it. It took ten seconds.

I never understood windows always asking me if I wanted to allow process 327gjd73 to continue working. Hmmmm. I guess so? Or wait... Maybe no?

If windows 7 works better thoguh, that's great. It will keep apple In a competitive state if mind.
 
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