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lilins

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Apr 25, 2018
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Villeurbanne
Hi, i re open this topic. any good option for a good pcie RAID internal sas connector card to get my 4 sata connectors SATA 3 compatible? I also need the raid cause AppleRAID is causing me headache with High Sierra and updates :) thanks
 

JayKay514

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Feb 28, 2014
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Only if you have the 2006-2008 Mac Pro - you can disconnect the SATA cable where it connects to the controller near the front of the motherboard, and connect a PCIe SAS / SATA controller.

I believe (if you hunt on these forums) many people had success with Inateck controller cards, particularly if you needed the drives to be bootable. But, with this approach, you'll need to create an extension cable to connect the card to the motherboard connector, to take over the 4 bays. You may also need the PCIe power cable (connects to motherboard; usually used for graphics cards) to give it more power than it can draw from the PCIe slot normally.

On the 2009-2012 Mac Pros, this is impossible as the motherboard connection / controller is totally different.

What most people suggest there, if you *must* do it internally, is to use a mounting solution for the optical drive bays (you can mount up to 4 2.5" SSDs there with certain ones, I believe), and run SATA cables down through the machine to a controller card. This is really difficult because the space is *very* tight, there's not really any space designed to run cables easily, and it's also easy to accidentally detach a cable from a drive when installing the optical bay sled back into the Mac.

I would suggest two much simpler solutions.
  1. Mount your drives in an external SAS RAID enclosure. There are plenty of those on the market that are well-supported with Macs.
  2. Switch from SATA SSDs to fast PCIe SSDs. The Amfeltec card can mount up to 4 M.2 PCIe SSDs which gives you a stunning 5900Mb/+ throughput. Barefeats reviewed it here: http://barefeats.com/hard210.html
The latter is not a cheap solution, but it is the absolute fastest thing you can buy that goes inside a PCIe slot for now.
 

Mac_User 0101

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Oct 8, 2017
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I've been meaning to ask this question and this seems to be the most appropriate thread for it. If one had an adequate quad m.2 carrier such as the Amfletec Squid or Highpoint 7101A and used a m.2 slot fitted with an m key m.2 to mini SAS adapter (they are a dine a dozen); Could you take a mini SAS to x4 SATA cable and theoretically interface x4 SATA drives? If it does work, I understand you will only have the throughput of your carrier's single m.2 slot and none of the hardware RAID support that the RAID/SAS cards would provide. If it does work, the slot would provide around 1500-2000MB/s total throughput depending on your specific m.2 carrier with the added benefit of having 3 more m.2 slots available for m.2's all from a single PCIe x16 slot.

https://images.app.goo.gl/SNYR2cCf7s9dZ39g8
 
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VaZ

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Aug 31, 2012
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I've been meaning to ask this question and this seems to be the most appropriate thread for it. If one had an adequate quad m.2 carrier such as the Amfletec Squid or Highpoint 7101A and used a m.2 slot fitted with an m key m.2 to mini SAS adapter (they are a dine a dozen); Could you take a mini SAS to x4 SATA cable and theoretically interface x4 SATA drives? If it does work, I understand you will only have the throughput of your carrier's single m.2 slot and none of the hardware RAID support that the RAID/SAS cards would provide. If it does work, the slot would provide around 1500-2000MB/s total throughput depending on your specific m.2 carrier with the added benefit of having 3 more m.2 slots available for m.2's all from a single PCIe x16 slot.

https://images.app.goo.gl/SNYR2cCf7s9dZ39g8
That would be a good test. I would be interested in seeing that.
Now in 2020 i've seen HDD's @ 267MB/s Sustained speeds so upgrading from SATA II to SATA III makes a lot more sense these days. Especially with software RAID.
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tommy chen

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Oct 1, 2018
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yes, this WD gold are the good ones

this is where the hitachi technique is used - WD bought the hitachi
more than a decade ago, released it first as HGST, WD gold
and now again as WD ultrastar.

fast and the most reliable spinner available!

some of mine are from 2009 and I have sold about 800 units
to customers since then and haven't had a single failure,
except 2 that arrived defective (transport damage).

here the speed of a WD ultrastar 8TB on internal SATAII tray in a 2012 cMP:


8TB_intern.jpg




so, back to topic ; -)
 
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