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glenthompson

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That only gets deleted files back or recently changed files. Unless you pay for the extended history you are only protected for 30 days. Even then it's only for one year. I recently had to use a file I hadn't touched in over 2 years. It was fine but what if there was a problem and the problem happened over a year ago. DropBox would have been useless as a backup.
 

simonsi

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That only gets deleted files back or recently changed files. Unless you pay for the extended history you are only protected for 30 days. Even then it's only for one year. I recently had to use a file I hadn't touched in over 2 years. It was fine but what if there was a problem and the problem happened over a year ago. DropBox would have been useless as a backup.

No more useless than any other backup rotation that doesn't cover the required period of error detection. Unless you want to continuously fill up media. If you had specified such a period of error non-detection I would have advised otherwise but frankly ANY backup has a finite period of protection - even USB drives used in 1 year rotations will have a risk of not working when you come to restore if left long enough.

My point was that simply deleting and syncing isn't enough to lose a file on Dropbox as you might think.
 

JamesMay82

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No reason at all to avoid it like a plague. If you did a little research before you bought a Drobo(as I did), there will be no surprises. I've never had any issues (since 08) with Drobo enclosures or there more than helpful customer service.

In fact most of the problems with Drobo are user error. I've talked and read post where the user got tired of waiting for the Drobo to rebuild the array, and turned it off, as to start over. I've never done anything so stupid. When losing a drive on a Drobo, I replace it and forget it. The Drobo will do it's work in the background, as long as someone does not turn it off.

Okay my avoid like the plague comment is a bit exaggerated.

I did like the drobo and the security it delivers is great but I just found it very slow compared to other raid drives or standard hard drives (for obvious reasons).

I think it was more the start up times that use to annoy me more than anything. I was aware the rebuild times could take a long time but they always said you would have access to your data which you do but it was also quite sluggish to use during the rebuild.

I still have the Drobo 2nd gen but i don't use it as I've moved over to a Lacie 2 big raid.

I did think about updating to the 3rd gen enclosure so i could use the faster usb 3 but not sure how much better the unit is in terms of start up times and transfers? and I'm reluctant to try it.
 

phrehdd

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My Synology DS1515 is fast reliable and secure. We have forty two of them deployed at work without a single failure

I notice that the end of the sentence was missing... here are some options -

without a single failure so far.
without a single failure given we have had no on site disaster.
without a single failure given we have had no rootkit infestation.
without a single failure given we have had no fire sprinklers go off.
and the list grows ...

Yes, having just a little fun here but the point remains the same as a fail over is not a fail over until you pull the switch. BTW, rather ballsy to put a prosumer product in the work place.
 

LifeIsLikeABoxOfRocks

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Okay my avoid like the plague comment is a bit exaggerated.

I did like the drobo and the security it delivers is great but I just found it very slow compared to other raid drives or standard hard drives (for obvious reasons).

I think it was more the start up times that use to annoy me more than anything. I was aware the rebuild times could take a long time but they always said you would have access to your data which you do but it was also quite sluggish to use during the rebuild.

I still have the Drobo 2nd gen but i don't use it as I've moved over to a Lacie 2 big raid.

I did think about updating to the 3rd gen enclosure so i could use the faster usb 3 but not sure how much better the unit is in terms of start up times and transfers? and I'm reluctant to try it.


Start up is 46 seconds. I get consistent 200MBps+ read/write times. When I pulled a drive, as to test it, I replace the pulled drive after I erased it, and the Drobo(gen 3) took 20 minutes to get back to green status.

I guess you missed my post about B&H selling 3 rd gens for $199. Monday only.

Also I lot of the early problems were PSU related. I'm happy to see that Drobo is now using FSP group PSU(a big step up).

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-hh

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After 35 years in IT with many years of working with disaster recovery planning and testing I get very particular about my personal data...Your data so you can handle it like you want but don't dismiss well established best practices for data backup and data recovery

Exactly. Once one learns just what the minimum standards are at a professional level best practices level, one's personal choices tend to become more conservative.

For example, I'm presently running with a base 3 copy rotation, plus with two (2) full depth remote site backup sites.

Read some of the other forums and hear the horror stories of people losing all their digital pictures of the kids growing up just because they had inadequate backup. Look at the news in California and see the houses burned to the ground in the wildfires. What are the chances that they got their computers and backups out of the fire?

For home systems, two very cheap ways to put into effect a remote site backup system (without cloud) is to take a backup duplicate and (a) toss it into a desk drawer at work, (b) put it into your safety deposit box at your bank.

Granted, both of these rely on the perseverance of doing SneakerNet each backup cycle (weekly/monthly/etc), but particularly once your data backup requirements start to exceed 1TB, the prospects of needing to lay out $1200/year for cloud storage do become a distinct motivator ;-)

-hh
 

glenthompson

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For home systems, two very cheap ways to put into effect a remote site backup system (without cloud) is to take a backup duplicate and (a) toss it into a desk drawer at work, (b) put it into your safety deposit box at your bank.

Granted, both of these rely on the perseverance of doing SneakerNet each backup cycle (weekly/monthly/etc), but particularly once your data backup requirements start to exceed 1TB, the prospects of needing to lay out $1200/year for cloud storage do become a distinct motivator ;-)

-hh

I bought a CrashPlan Family subscription for 10 computers with unlimited space for $425 for 4 years. Got all our computers plus my brother since he can screw up anything electronic.
 
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