Nope, Capture One Pro. Apple took too long and delivered too little - and were obviously going to do so for months. C1 is SO good I've re-processed my entire 600GB library for its better RAW processing.
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Nope, Capture One Pro. Apple took too long and delivered too little - and were obviously going to do so for months. C1 is SO good I've re-processed my entire 600GB library for its better RAW processing.
Also, only one can be the "system library" which is the one that syncs with icloud.
OMG What a piece of crap...
I have been trying to make the conversion from iPhoto to photos.app. I am migrating an iPhoto library of about 1800 pictures. I started 22 hours ago. I currently have only 222 photos uploaded on an extremely fast internet connection. I have been on the phone several times with AppleCare. After four calls, over the last six or seven hours, I finally got to an individual who says this is normal behavior because everybody is having this trouble, and I should just wait for a few days to try again because everyone is trying to upload photos at the same time.
What an unbelievable fail if this is true.
Nice job apple.
I have been trying to make the conversion from iPhoto to photos.app. I am migrating an iPhoto library of about 1800 pictures. I started 22 hours ago. I currently have only 222 photos uploaded on an extremely fast internet connection. I have been on the phone several times with AppleCare. After four calls, over the last six or seven hours, I finally got to an individual who says this is normal behavior because everybody is having this trouble, and I should just wait for a few days to try again because everyone is trying to upload photos at the same time.
What an unbelievable fail if this is true.
Nice job apple.
Tried photos last night with my weekends photographs. Hated it, really tried but it was just impossible to get the edits right.
Just going to use it as a bridge to access my phone photos now and stick with Aperture till I'm feeling adventurous...
Just going to use it as a bridge to access my phone photos now and stick with Aperture till I'm feeling adventurous...
I moved to Lightroom some time ago, but I like the way the Photos app is presenting the photos. My workflow was to edit the raw files in Lightroom and then export the best photos as jpgs in a folder. Now I'm exporting the jpgs and put them into the new Photos app to sync them to my iPhone and iPad. So the Photos app just needs to present the photos (e.g. if I want to show them to friends) because Lightroom isn't the best option if you want to quickly show some photos around ;-)
The edit fuctions of the Photos app are good enought to handle the shoots taken with my iPhone but for ervything else I'll use Lightroom.
The edit fuctions of the Photos app are good enought to handle the shoots taken with my iPhone but for ervything else I'll use Lightroom.
Cmd-K (brings up keyword Manager)
Click "Edit Keywords"
If you don't have them already, create keywords "1 Star", "2 Star", "3 Star" etc.
If you don't have it already create a keyword "Flagged".
Select the "Flagged" keyword.
Click Shortcut
Enter /
Click OK
Now, if you have the Keyword Manager open, whenever you have a photo (or photos) selected, clicking "/" will flag or un-flag the photo(s).
You can search for flagged photos using the search tool, or create a smart album to find flagged photos.
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This sounds like iTunes Match all over again. I signed up for that and it was like a virus in my iTunes library. I basically had to trash my iTunes library file (goodbye, several years' worth of metadata) and reimport the library. I'm still finding songs that have been truncated. I know this is not exactly the same thing but I was burned by that experience and don't want to be watching half my collection uploaded, the connection to Apple hanging and being stuck between two things with no way back.
As much as I am ticked off by the problems I have been having doing the transition in terms of the upload, I have to admit that I have been using the new photo.app without the cloud and actually, kind a like it. It allows much more granular editing control, for one thing. It does seem to scroll quickly... The filters are not comprehensive, but can be a good starting place for editing. Now If I could just get it to work in the cloud like they said it would.....
Opened Photos and closed it, went no further. I have no issues with Lightroom so I see no need to change. Now if Adobe ever goes to a cloud only version, I'll look for something else but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Similar problem here. I have lots of blank spots in the library where photos used to be, photos interspaced with white spaces in place of missing photos. When I try to export the "Blank" it gives me a message "The file "picture_name.jpg" couldn't be opened because it does not exist."
Well, I have time machine and did a hard drive backup 1 1/2 months ago to an external drive. Now I have to figure out how to fix this. Not happy.
Edit: Looks like the missing photos are from about 1998-2007, I haven't looked through those photos in years and it's possible through the many upgrades of iPhoto and OS's that they just didn't carry over for some reason and I just never noticed so Photos may not be to blame. Time Machine can't seem find them so I'll have to search my external backup drive.
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Photos will indeed be here to stay....I do like the setup of Photos and indeed we all have to become more familiar with it.. Further improvements will be forthcoming. I also like the Pixelmator editor for further enhancement and hope they will create more plug ins ...ultimately, if Pixelmator gets involved (I am sure they will) it might become a nice substitute for Aperture.
More plugins? Where is the first one for Photos from anyone?
If Apple wanted to deliver a first class high end photo management and editing environment.....they had one years ago with Aperture. They let it die from neglect when they refocused on IOS devices instead of OS X devices. Does anyone seriously believe Apple will try to make Photos into something that can reasonably replace Aperture and compete with LR or C1P?
Of course not...
My 80yo mother is going to love Photos, to keep track of the grandkids and great grandkids...
is it not possible to merge libraries 'in the cloud'?
for example, open library 1, make it the system library, turn on iCloud photo library, wait for upload to complete and make sure everything matches up (compare numbers with iCloud.com etc.)
then open library 2, make it the system library, turn on ICPL, library 2 will be uploaded and the uploads from library 1 should be downloaded to give you 1 complete library.
delete local copy of library 1
any reason why this wouldn't work?
for example, open library 1, make it the system library, turn on iCloud photo library, wait for upload to complete and make sure everything matches up (compare numbers with iCloud.com etc.)
then open library 2, make it the system library, turn on ICPL, library 2 will be uploaded and the uploads from library 1 should be downloaded to give you 1 complete library.
delete local copy of library 1
any reason why this wouldn't work?
I took a little time out to try photos with a small (<5000 images) iPhoto library that I use professionally -- just as an asset management/organizer, basically. Small, but, I do have a couple of events there with 1000 images/8GB. I don't consider that a large number-- that is just one project/vacation sized.
I am very, very underwhelmed with Photos.
Yes, yes, I plan to ask Apple to fix it so it looks and acts like iPhoto/Aperture, but, I'm not hoping for much at this point. I really can't imagine what they were thinking. It is a pity, because iPhoto is perfect for modest users with less than 100K images who like the location/faces/events organization/indexing, with modest image processing needs. Automatic sharing of everything via the cloud is not a priority to me, and, I'm not sure it would work anyway with 100K images/1TB. I don't consider those big numbers.
I'm a professional, but, not a professional photographer, and, I consider my needs very modest compared to what a professional photographer would want. iPhoto worked for (some of) my needs. I can't see using Photos.
I am very, very underwhelmed with Photos.
Yes, yes, I plan to ask Apple to fix it so it looks and acts like iPhoto/Aperture, but, I'm not hoping for much at this point. I really can't imagine what they were thinking. It is a pity, because iPhoto is perfect for modest users with less than 100K images who like the location/faces/events organization/indexing, with modest image processing needs. Automatic sharing of everything via the cloud is not a priority to me, and, I'm not sure it would work anyway with 100K images/1TB. I don't consider those big numbers.
I'm a professional, but, not a professional photographer, and, I consider my needs very modest compared to what a professional photographer would want. iPhoto worked for (some of) my needs. I can't see using Photos.
Automator actions, geotags, and more advanced tricks for Photos for OS X
http://www.macworld.com/article/291...more-advanced-tricks-for-photos-for-os-x.html
http://www.macworld.com/article/291...more-advanced-tricks-for-photos-for-os-x.html
Photos and Outlook
I have found today that you cannot share to email from Photos if you use Outlook as your default email client. As soon as I disable outlook as my default client in the outlook preferences, I get Mail as a share option. If I reselect outlook to be my default mail client, the share option disappears. I choose to use Outlook as it keeps contacts, email and calendar in one place. This is very disappointing that Photos doesn't work in the same way my old Iphoto did. Has anyone else come across this and found a way around it.
Another thing is it no longer creates an event for photos you import from a device. You have to select all of the photos you want in a new event, create a new album and then drag the album into events. All in all, not a very good experience so far. Seems like a step backward at the moment.
I have found today that you cannot share to email from Photos if you use Outlook as your default email client. As soon as I disable outlook as my default client in the outlook preferences, I get Mail as a share option. If I reselect outlook to be my default mail client, the share option disappears. I choose to use Outlook as it keeps contacts, email and calendar in one place. This is very disappointing that Photos doesn't work in the same way my old Iphoto did. Has anyone else come across this and found a way around it.
Another thing is it no longer creates an event for photos you import from a device. You have to select all of the photos you want in a new event, create a new album and then drag the album into events. All in all, not a very good experience so far. Seems like a step backward at the moment.
Apple changed the way this works in 10.10 and Microsoft just hasn't gotten around to making a Sharing Extension for OS X. No Sharing Extension, no item in the sharing menu.
Like MCASN, I will stick with Aperture 3 for a while. Im not into Adobe LR I don't know if in the future Adobe will decide if LR will become LR CC? 
I used LR for years. Over a year ago I started playing with Aperture and like it very much. Using either LR or Aperture required plugins to do the full range of what I wanted. When I saw that Apple was officially killing Aperture I deleted my copy and stayed on LR. With Aperture dying I have yet to see another DAM beside LR that can do integrated round trips to plugins. That is a critical requirement for me. IT may not be for others.
So I am looking forward to LR 6 release on Tuesday. I hope performance has improved with the 64 bit only architecture and use of GPUs. I will still use the LR Library as my DAM. I will do most raw conversions using LR; however, when I think I can do better in DxO Optics, I will send the raw file there and get back a DNG. I will then finish the image as needed in Perfect Photo Suite.
I am really glad I was not a long term Aperture user. I would be one POed photographer right now. What a shame a third party company would not be allowed to purchase Aperture and continue the evolution.
So I am looking forward to LR 6 release on Tuesday. I hope performance has improved with the 64 bit only architecture and use of GPUs. I will still use the LR Library as my DAM. I will do most raw conversions using LR; however, when I think I can do better in DxO Optics, I will send the raw file there and get back a DNG. I will then finish the image as needed in Perfect Photo Suite.
I am really glad I was not a long term Aperture user. I would be one POed photographer right now. What a shame a third party company would not be allowed to purchase Aperture and continue the evolution.
I agree with most everything above. I plan to re-look at LightRoom again. It sounds like, from this description, that it can now import most of the metadata correctly that iPhoto has:
http://www.lightroomqueen.com/ready-move-aperture-iphoto/
except for Faces, which is (imperfectly, but better than nothing), just a tag. If LR would add faces, I would convert ASAP. (I still have everything in iPhoto databases because of its Mac-Mac portability right now.) I'm not sure if this is something that can be done with a plugin, because, you need a database of people and pointers to the photos and rectangles within each photo, as well as import workflow where the facial recognition itself can be processed.
The Places problem is also a big one. What I like about Photos is that the import workflow allows you to identify places beyond GPS (not always available or correct) and correct/add on the fly, as well as faces, and then split up into events.
This workflow works perfectly for people like me who use iPhoto professionally -- just not as a professional photographer. I am acquainted with 1000's of people through work, but, can't always keep track of who looks like what. iPhoto + Contacts integrates with contacts on the iPhone, and, it all works. And, the same works in my free time, when I go on vacation and mark which, I don't know, beautiful waterfall in Yellowstone that was among the thousands of waterfalls there. That is basically Photography 1A stuff -- "write down" where and when and how the photos were taken.
The problem with all the other tools mentioned in this and other threads is not that they don't work. e.g. I can always grab a jpg, move it to Windows, use Windows Pro Photo Tools to edit the EXIF etc data. But, I could easily spend five minutes on something that can be ten seconds in iPhoto as part of the import workflow. And, those data not necessarily accessible and visually presentable when you are giving a slideshow either. With iPhoto, the location where something was taken is instantly available when people ask a month or a year later. With iPhoto, I can show you on the map.