Viking,
You have a point, I did not go into a detailed description about the reasons I believe that Vista "sucks!" None of the three versions I have and have tried to live with, Home Premium, Bus, and (as much a geek as I am, I bought the numbered version) Ultimate (32/64).
I could start an entire thread on those reasons, but that isn't what this thread is about.
Ok then, funny how every single IT guy I know that supports Vista, uses Vista and has rolled it out on every company workstation loves it. Now mind you, I find issues with some things as well but Vista lays the smack down on XP. But hey, maybe my 50 plus workstations and laptops are just the lucky ones. But you're right, this thread isn't about Vista.
It's about your problems with a new iMac 24" that you picked up 3 days ago.
Have I stated there are problems with it or have I stated that I have concerns about heat, because heat to me is one issue, could be just me. Also, it's a valid issue, even if others don't mind if their PSU hits 190f.
That you can't get to do really, anything intensive, that doesn't shock the $8/hr. Apple Support folks with temperature readings...
Who said it can't do anything intensive? Are we reading the same thread?
Well, per them and I can only hope Apple educates them properly, I digress, per them 170f to 190f temps are well above average for the PSU however the other temps are inline with expectations.
WTF did you buy it for? To run benchmarks? Measure internal temps?
Forgive me for being shocked that the PSU can almost cook eggs, I never intended to be shocked by such a high temp but there it is, I didn't create it, I didn't make it up and I didn't buy it with the intent of hoping I could complain about it as for benchmarks I don't care about that for this machine and never stated I did.
Why would you be concerned with Windows apps when you have "Much MORE" than 5 PC's in the house?
What the hell are you even talking about? How am I concerned about Windows apps? What does the amount of computers have to do with a hot iMac or Windows applications? What drugs are you on?
Seriously dude, I wasn't trying to boast with having a couple of PCs in the house. Around these parts, that's almost embarrassing
Jokes aside, I have a need for what I do with my computers/workstations. I work from home with 2 fulltime and 3 P/T employees.
I have a computer business, so when I say I have more than a few or 5 or 10 its not to brag. I think anybody who has multiple computers has a need for them, if not, well, who cares.
All we do is video/photo/audio/print editing for media. When a guy gets the opportunity to work with ANY of the new Macs, whether or not they're from the iMac lineup or the Pro lineup, it's an absolute JOY when it comes to creative work. A far cry from the annoying world of Windows, IMHO. The ONE reason I will mention to you about my complete disdain for Vista and to a lesser extent, XP (Windows, period) is synergy.
Synergy, ok then. Let me know how that goes with HD, because that is so well supported by Apple. You have an obvious bias against Windows, I think if Microsoft came out with the perfect OS Apple fans would piss on it and say it sucks just because it doesn't have an Apple on it. I am at least open enough to buy both and use them without saying one or the other has to suck so I feel better about my choice. My complaints of heat do not mean I dislike Apple.
The way ALL components and Software for what I need WORKS! Bugs, hiccups with new releases, you bet. But...someone to call, in America, that answers the phone....in the same location for Logic, FCP, Itunes, and trying to get the Bluetooth to work...everything, from software to hardware. They support it. Whether or not you choose to use their software, or go to places the computers weren't designed to go, that's your choice.
I would hope you don't hold Microsoft responsible for bad applications unless of course they wrote them. All the software I buy for Windows works fine as well, but then we test everything that goes onto a Windows PC or a Mac PC.
Back to the topic. One of our iMacs is a two and a half year old, bone stock system for the kids. 3 of 'em. I don't think it has ever intentionally been turned off...Kool-Aid, Peanut Butter...long hairs from celery. I've found it all in and around that computer. It runs great. Wish I wouldn't have wasted my money on Apple Care for that one
Peace
J
I have a cheap Compaq text to speech box that has been on for 2 years with no reboot, I check resources once in awhile and its fine and runs Windows 2000 Pro, someday it will crash, I'm waiting for that day. I have my home brewed computer I built for my wife that runs XP, I can't remember the last time she rebooted or powered it down. We can piss into the wind about which is better but we both know neither one is, both have their Pros and Cons but the difference between me and Apple people is Apple people have this nutty need to slam Windows and talk about the mighty Apple like it's the end all be all and it simply just isn't.
If it were it wouldn't have needed to be saved by Microsoft back in 1997 and it would have a much higher market share. Is Apple gaining market share, yes, will it ever dominate, who knows but I do know this, I like Apple and Microsoft and as long as both create products I like I'll use both.
Now, try and read what I say, childishly put or not and stop reading into what I say. The iMac is a fine machine, who cares how many computers we have or why and you'll never see me write Apple or Leopard sucks but I do have the right to vent when they don't work as I feel it should.
190f for the PSU is down right nuts, I don't care if they designed it that way, its nuts and it isn't my fault for feeling it's nuts. Now, if my points aren't clear enough perhaps you should ignore this thread. Last, people slam Microsoft for being a monopoly and greedy, anybody who thinks Apple wouldn't love to monopolize the market or isn't just as greedy is smoking too much ganja (sp).
Good thinking. I just hope you don't get slapped with the restocking fee.
Best Buy doesn't have a restocking fee and I don't want to abuse their return policy however the policy states you should be satisfied and right now I'm not quite there.
