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I agree with you you Apple should put a stop to being able jailbreak iphones.
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Piracy Threatens App Store's Future
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a. people shouldn't steal the apps
b. apple should allow demo's so people could know which app is worth your hard earned money (i know some apps have the "lite" version)
c. only a small percentage of people that steal apps would actually pay for them if they didn't steal it so it's not 1 app stolen = 1 sale lost like they always calculate
b. apple should allow demo's so people could know which app is worth your hard earned money (i know some apps have the "lite" version)
c. only a small percentage of people that steal apps would actually pay for them if they didn't steal it so it's not 1 app stolen = 1 sale lost like they always calculate
Beejive also has an app that is constantly contacting their servers as part of its functionality so it's probably a lot easier to protect. A game isn't going to be doing that (and shouldn't) so it falls back in to apple's court to protect these...i think at least.
I agree, the piracy issue is big on the iPhone and that is unacceptable. I am in high school and one of the sole reasons people ask me to jailbreak their phone/ipod is so they can pirate (they don't say this to me, but it's obvious).
However, not all jailbreaks pirate. Maybe if Apple were more open, there would be no need for jailbreaking and if there was less jailbreaking then there would be much less pirating. Don't you think Apple is to blame here, at least a little bit?
Apple can try to prevent jailbreaking all they want but the real need here is for apple to be more open so not everyone will have to jailbreak.
However, not all jailbreaks pirate. Maybe if Apple were more open, there would be no need for jailbreaking and if there was less jailbreaking then there would be much less pirating. Don't you think Apple is to blame here, at least a little bit?
Apple can try to prevent jailbreaking all they want but the real need here is for apple to be more open so not everyone will have to jailbreak.
If you think that's the extent of the benefits of jailbreaking then you're far too ignorant to be arguing against it. Do a little research before attacking something.
so you are comparing breaking apple ToS and EULA to using the internet
My comment was meant to be asinine. Its just as dumb to lump all internet users into the pirate category as it is to do it to people who jailbreak their iphone.
So what do jailbroken phones do beyond customization?
I'm not looking for a cure to cancer - just functions and utilities that can rationalize the cost of thousands of dollars lost from stolen apps.
RipDev came up with a program called Kali.
If they, former jailbreaking gods, can make a program to protect developers apps, why hasn't another developer come up with something similar.
I jailbreak and buy my apps, so I couldn't care less what type of security is used.
If they, former jailbreaking gods, can make a program to protect developers apps, why hasn't another developer come up with something similar.
I jailbreak and buy my apps, so I couldn't care less what type of security is used.
It's also a huge stretch to say that every cracked app used was money lost or that every jailbreaker pirates apps.
I never said either of those.
I said jailbreaking enables piracy, and thus should be thwarted.
It's unfair for some of you people to blame apple for the piracy problems going on. Just because Apple hasn't implemented backgrounding apps or the like doesn't give people the reason and right to pirate apps.
On the topic about how pirates not buying the apps that they have stolen...
If you think about it correctly, it's obvious that pirates would not buy the apps they have stolen, much like a thief would not buy a BMW if they couldn't steal it. It doesn't make the car or app worth any less, though. When the product has been stolen, it is no different than the product being purchased, other than the fact that the developer/marker has not received their compensation for it.
If Pika lost $80,000 to piracy, Pika should still receive $80,000. Regardless if the pirates would have bought the product in real life.
On the topic about how pirates not buying the apps that they have stolen...
If you think about it correctly, it's obvious that pirates would not buy the apps they have stolen, much like a thief would not buy a BMW if they couldn't steal it. It doesn't make the car or app worth any less, though. When the product has been stolen, it is no different than the product being purchased, other than the fact that the developer/marker has not received their compensation for it.
If Pika lost $80,000 to piracy, Pika should still receive $80,000. Regardless if the pirates would have bought the product in real life.
Jailbreaking won't be stopped. Apple tries by releasing new software and even new hardware. It's only a matter of time before someone jailbreaks whatever Apple makes. Apple locks down each new software and then the jailbreaking community breaks it. Then it starts all over with each new software that is released. It's a never ending game of cat and mouse.
All operating systems enable piracy by default. Should every os be locked down? Would you really want your computer to be like the current iphone where most things are restricted? I'm sorry but if I'm shelling out this much money I want to use the phone to my liking. That means modifying files, look, feel, to any way I want... just like I do on my computer.
You can hack apps through your phone without even using your home network. They're creative. I think if every app had a trial version or lite version then a significant amount of apps would be less pirated.
Also, Pika what apps have you designed that you lost $80000 from? Isnt there a way to make your app non-crackable?
Piracy isn't Apple's fault - that's solely on the people who choose to steal other people's work.
Jailbreaking, however, is Apple's fault. People want to customize their devices and run legitimate applications that Apple deems unworthy of their App Store. We're talking useful apps such as SSH, Bluetooth (no file transfer for the iPhone is laughably stupid on Apple's part), Terminal, etc. Yet Apple wants to basically tell people how their iPhones and iPod Touches should look and behave. That's just not gonna jive with a lot of people, just as it wouldn't if they ever tried restricting the appearance of Macs and dictating what software can and can't be run on Macs. For those of us who pay for our apps and do not participate in piracy, jailbreaking is a godsend that allows us to have some level of control over the devices we paid for, and break free of Apple's iron grip over these same devices.
If you want to change things, then tell the developers to find ways to secure and protect their apps. Those of us who are doing absolutely nothing wrong with our jailbroken devices shouldn't lose the ability to customize just because a small percentage of users have no scruples.
I would bet on the percentage of iPhone/iPod touch users that bother to JB their phones to be in the vast minority. Sure, enthusiasts on forums like this are perhaps more likely to do it. But the average person on the street? Not so much..
Meaning piracy is highly unlikely to be as rife as the article makes out.
Besides, many apps are so cheap to buy, you'd have to be a seriously tight B@57@rd not to pay up.
And if the developer is making them too expensive, then I say it's their own fault if people pirate it.. Particularly if they are too lazy to protect the apps efficiently.
Im more concerned about con artists like the Mobile Chat clowns that were selling an app that didn't even nearly work. And next to no one got a refund for it either. Thats robbery right there.
Meaning piracy is highly unlikely to be as rife as the article makes out.
Besides, many apps are so cheap to buy, you'd have to be a seriously tight B@57@rd not to pay up.
And if the developer is making them too expensive, then I say it's their own fault if people pirate it.. Particularly if they are too lazy to protect the apps efficiently.
Im more concerned about con artists like the Mobile Chat clowns that were selling an app that didn't even nearly work. And next to no one got a refund for it either. Thats robbery right there.
It has. There isn't a single app in the store that hasn't been cracked already.
TomTom was cracked two hours after it hit the store.
You are absolutely correct. The authors of programs, however, can make things more difficult if they wish to spend the time and money. The question, of course, is if it is worth the money.
This is the best argument offered for piracy yet, but what are you saying still amounts to customization, which seems like a petty complaint to me (no offense), considering the amount of money at stake.
The newest version of Copilot NA hasn't been cracked and no not every app has been cracked.