anybody knows the fonts from elppa's business card designs?
would be great if someone could answer me
I'm not 100% sure but looks like DIN to me
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/fontfont/ff-din/
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Please Critque My Business Card
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I'm not 100% sure but looks like DIN to me
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/fontfont/ff-din/
I LOL'd
Anyways, I would increase the opacity of your bg image, deffinitely change the font. The text on the bottom is tough to read, so if you don't change the opacity, at least lighten that text so it can be read better.
Oh and I personally think, except in certain specific situations, drop shadow is lame. Try another layer style like outer/inner glow maybe?
no offense dude but this card looks really amateurish. not professional at all. but yeah you asked for constructive critics to make your card somewhat better, so here are my tips for you:
- drop the bg photo
because it is much too distracting to have two focus points. it's either data or image but seldomy both. that is why business exectuves have these boring business cards with plain text only ... you just see the plain data without any distractions.
- use other fonts
arial looks so boring in print. it really does ... everybody is using it and you certainly do not want to give the impression that you are nobody special. you are an artist, someone who has to see the subtileness in fonts and how they fit. if you want to try something more conservative, try the frutiger font. if you feel like retro take helvetica and play around a bit with character spacing etc... it just gives the whole thing a better identity.
- design it
you just have to figure out how the business card will affect people. perhaps somebody will just stick it in their briefcase and pull it out two months later and has absolutely no clue what it's all about. with a unique, professional design you definetly can make a big impression. people will like looking at your business card ... it kinda works like advertising - at best, ask a communication student about how to get the best effect out of it. they usually got (at least over here) better knowledge about how to market images than media designers.
- design a logo
this goes hand in hand with the point i just tried to explain. the purpose of a business card is that people remember you. but yeah, it's even better when people remember you in a positive way when looking at your card. a good logo should be created carefully ... perhaps with a good designer at hand.
- and last but not least
the card just does not say anything about you. if i would see this card i would (honestly) throw it away because there is simply no information on it. no name, no address and even the whole purpose of your business is missing. data you should include:
* your name - as a reference. because people need a personal reference to a company / photo dude whatever. it just gives a better impression of yourself. additionally they just need to know whom to call.
* your address - because people will perhaps send over stuff and won't want to take notes when they ask you about your address. give it to them beforehand. it's very important that your customer knows you welcome him.
* email and website - this should be obvious but please if you are planning on doing this professionally, get a unique url. no subdomain. like www.tylerzuck.com or something like this. looks more professional and gives a good impression.
* mobile number (obvious aswell)
you see, there's a little more to consider
greets.
I have been reading your critique of his business card, very valuable, so much so i have applied your critique to my card as well. Thanks so much for the plain common sense.
Cheffy Dave
My Take
For me a business card should:
1. Give a good, professional impression (even if you work out of your basement)
2. Give a sense of what your business is about (but don't have an essay about it on the card - had a client once that insisted on 2 columns of text that filled one side of the card explaining his business!!)
3. Give all the right contact info in a quick, clean, concise manner.
To that end, here is my take on the design of the OP's card ... simple and clean:
(of course choosing a good photo helps)
For me a business card should:
1. Give a good, professional impression (even if you work out of your basement)
2. Give a sense of what your business is about (but don't have an essay about it on the card - had a client once that insisted on 2 columns of text that filled one side of the card explaining his business!!)
3. Give all the right contact info in a quick, clean, concise manner.
To that end, here is my take on the design of the OP's card ... simple and clean:
(of course choosing a good photo helps)
I'm a boring professional, but here are my thoughts on the three designs I've seen.
-The original I'd proably toss as looking amatuerish - nothing better than the folks that hassle you when you walk into Disney World.
-ELPPA's I'd like at first, later be annoyed - it was really attractive and conveyed action sports photography, but it looks too square (a bit unusually shaped) and I'd be bothered that it didn't fit with my other business cards. But, I might be wrong, in which case it is my favorite.
-one3's was minimalist and nice. I just wonder, as someone else said, if it might be too expensive to print double sided if this is a side job. Of course, you are living in your mom's basement, so you are saving some money.
-The original I'd proably toss as looking amatuerish - nothing better than the folks that hassle you when you walk into Disney World.
-ELPPA's I'd like at first, later be annoyed - it was really attractive and conveyed action sports photography, but it looks too square (a bit unusually shaped) and I'd be bothered that it didn't fit with my other business cards. But, I might be wrong, in which case it is my favorite.
-one3's was minimalist and nice. I just wonder, as someone else said, if it might be too expensive to print double sided if this is a side job. Of course, you are living in your mom's basement, so you are saving some money.
-one3's was minimalist and nice. I just wonder, as someone else said, if it might be too expensive to print double sided if this is a side job. Of course, you are living in your mom's basement, so you are saving some money.
If you go with 4/4 Process color printing and aren't too picky about super-duper paper, there is for example a shop here in town that will charge about $120 for 1000 cards. .... Now if you go a bit more custom paper, B&W with Pantone you're looking at about $300-400 + for 1000
Dude, if you don't feel the need to make the card look professional then why are you even bothering to make one? Seriously, either make it look professional or don't bother, because what is the use of a card that looks fugly. And your card does look fugly, its just people around here are too polite to be that blunt about it. Interestingly enough, the fact you are a tech guy rather than an artist comes across loud and clear from that card.
Sorry to be so blunt, but you are wasting your time if you dont follow all the great advice being given to you. If I was you I would copy Elppa's or one3's designs, and use that as a basis for your card, because I'm not sure your own graphical design skills are up to the task of selling your photography skills.
Where did I say I did not want to make it look Profession?
Where did I say I was not going to take anyones advice?
For that matter, where did I claim that I think my own design is better than anyone elses, or even that I think my own design looks good AT ALL? I know I'm not in graphic design, and I know there are even people who could sleep walk a better card design with a pencil attached to their big toe.
I came here asking for advice for the sole reason that I don't like the look of my own card. But just because you don't like the look of the house you built, doesn't mean you have any clue how to actually build it right.
Thank you for being so brutally blunt without actually giving me any advice outside of what I'm already doing... Actually, I'm quite unsure what your posts serves, except to trash on a none technical artist attempting something new, and looking to learn here from some of the (usually) friendly MacRumors crowd.
I came here to learn, not because I think I can teach anyone here anything, or that what I showed is even worth looking at. Showing anything to the public, especially your very first work, is daunting enough as it is. Throw in the fact that the subject is art, and for some reason it becomes even harder to go out and ask someone to provide pointers due to responses just like yours. I appreciate all the advice and pointers others took the time out of their day to give.
Heaven forbid you ever approach me asking for programming pointers or anything I'm passionate about and decent at
anybody knows the fonts from elppa's business card designs?
would be great if someone could answer me
Same here, I quite like the look of that font and would love to know what it is.
EDIT:
Cheers, I think that could be the one, but he's used capital lettering.
Furthermore, does anyone know the font one3 has used? I think it's sexy.
I believe I already quoted the part of your post that I was referring to.
People offered you advice about making sure you come across like a pro (having a proper email address and such like) and then you went and told us that you don't need to look a pro because this is a hobby and not a business. To which I replied and said there's no point doing it unless you come across as professional. Maybe I'm dead wrong but I think regardless whether you make a living from this or not your card needs to come across as professional in every regard, from the email address through to the quality of the card its printed on, otherwise there's simply no point making one.
Truth be told I don't think you would disagree with any of that. I think you are just whining because I called your card fugly, and you know what.... I'm not a total *******, I dont set out to offend people, so I am sorry if my remark offended you. (But that doesnt mean your card was any less fugly
)As for me not offering you any advice, I think I did... copy the two great mock ups shown to you.
You mean the part where I said that I think some people misunderstood me my points (in 40 messages, is that possible?!), and where I said I was not starting an "Official Business" ?
What part of "Official Business" translates to "looking professional" ?
You then did not quote the entire page and a half of my post where I discuss the different help and what I liked.
If I am to actually be professional, I can't go gobbling up everything people throw at me. It has to appeal to me, else I would not feel comfortable representing myself with it.
That said, I pretty much wrote that I was tossing out my old design, and would try and work off the ideas people gave me here in this thread.
Except I said I was getting a proper email address, web site forwarding address, and was accepting most, if not all, of the ideas listed?
That is of course argumentative. Because what you assume is that having a poorly designed card with your info, is worse than no card and no info at all. In high class professional circles a bad card is perhaps something you don't see, so seeing one sets you apart. I was just in a shop yesterday and saw a stack of business cards. Found one for a photographer and, while a tad better than mine, was pretty bad. You don't actually need to outrun the bear, just the people you're with.
But, in practicality, and how I approach the rest of life, I agree with you. I'm a perfectionist in most of my life.
Truth be told I don't think you would disagree with any of that. I think you are just whining because I called your card fugly, and you know what.... I'm not a total *******, I dont set out to offend people, so I am sorry if my remark offended you. (But that doesnt mean your card was any less fugly
You can be a duche and still be speaking the truth
So now you're going to say that, my well put forth points and position are just me whining? I still have yet to actually defend my own card or design, but however have trashed on it myself a few times.
Yes, I noticed that. You chimed in and
1. Echoed everyone else's advice, and didn't even use your own words or perspectives, just "do what they say".
2. Misinterpreted my post, and even on reflection can only see me as being a whiner.
3. Used harsh language that is not needed, as that design has been thrown out ( wrote this), and offer no constructive criticism of your own.
You did not offend me. I've been around the internet block enough times that I can recognize posts like yours, and file it and you away into that special corner of my brain where I keep people like you. Until which time they decide to dig themselves out, if ever.
Good day. If you'd like to make a reply, I'd suggest messaging me, as not to distract from this thread any more, or distract anyone that searches and comes across the information.
~Tyler
You know, in the amount of time you spent quoting every sentence I wrote and giving a counter argument you could have already made a new business card
yes. it sets you apart as someone who sucks.
sorry, but your logic is ridiculous at best.
OK, let's keep the thread on topic and please not let's resort to personal attacks or comments about other people. It's just not constructive and isn't something we want to see anywhere, let alone here in the D&G forum.
I realise that anyone who calls for a crit on their work is putting a little of themselves on the line, so please let's respect that and try and be as helpful as possible.
And to those putting their work out there for appraisal and feedback, be prepared to have a thick skin because in the field, in all creative fields, you'll need it. Your work is not you.
If things continue to go south, I will lock the thread and look more closely at how things unfolded.
Thanks.
I realise that anyone who calls for a crit on their work is putting a little of themselves on the line, so please let's respect that and try and be as helpful as possible.
And to those putting their work out there for appraisal and feedback, be prepared to have a thick skin because in the field, in all creative fields, you'll need it. Your work is not you.
If things continue to go south, I will lock the thread and look more closely at how things unfolded.
Thanks.