Please run PugetBench for After Effects on Mac Studio

[shuto]

BTW did you make the character in your avatar? It's lovely.

Sadly no. It’s amazing character design isn’t it. Just really like it.

How have you been finding after effects on apple silicon so far? I have most the time when it feels like butter. No lag at all, the best I could ever wish for with after effects. But sometimes it slows down where menu buttons are laggy to click. And everything takes longer to process. It feels like the system just freezes up for micro seconds which feels odd. Have you experienced any of this?

And also hope red giant updates all their stuff soon. Gonna need those tools soon enough! The thing I have been missing the most today though is video copilot’s fx console. Find that so handy for adding effects quickly.

 

[JippaLippa]

And also hope red giant updates all their stuff soon. Gonna need those tools soon enough! The thing I have been missing the most today though is video copilot’s fx console. Find that so handy for adding effects quickly.

Can't share any details, I'm just saying...
You won't have to wait long 👀 (speaking of RG).
By the way VFX suite, and Magic Bullet are already apple silicon native, I think Universe too.

With regards to videocopilot, I sent an email asking for apple solicon compatibility and Andrew Kramer's brother himself (or someone with the same surname) told me they would 100% work on it after updating the tools for MFR.

Considering that's been taken care of ad AE Native is outside the beta...
I gess we'll see the dreaded update soon. (I too miss FX Console)

 

[shuto]

Can't share any details, I'm just saying...
You won't have to wait long 👀 (speaking of RG).
By the way VFX suite, and Magic Bullet are already apple silicon native, I think Universe too.

With regards to videocopilot, I sent an email asking for apple solicon compatibility and Andrew Kramer's brother himself (or someone with the same surname) told me they would 100% work on it after updating the tools for MFR.

Considering that's been taken care of ad AE Native is outside the beta...
I gess we'll see the dreaded update soon. (I too miss FX Console)

Well that's great news about red giant plugins and video copilot fx console, that's for that info

So you don't experience any mini lags / pauses when you work on apple silicon version of Ae? Maybe I'm just overthinking it and expecting too much from Ae. It just feels so good and crazy fluid to use when it seems to be in the zone, and other time feels very laggy.

It's very nice to see all 20 cores light up in after effects, feels very far aways from a few years back.

 

[JippaLippa]

So you don't experience any mini lags / pauses when you work on apple silicon version of Ae? Maybe I'm just overthinking it and expecting too much from Ae. It just feels so good and crazy fluid to use when it seems to be in the zone, and other time feels very laggy.

It's very nice to see all 20 cores light up in after effects, feels very far aways from a few years back.

I felt the random lags here and there, but I'm learning to appreciate what's offered to me.
While the M1 Ultra experience isn't the real-time compositing experience I expected (perhaps with poor judgement), but it's finally something I can work with.

Please remember that AE is very old school software, and it's pretty hard to optimize its performance...think how much it took for Multi-Frame-Rendering to become reality.
So I don't expect AE being optimize anytime soon.

That said, the apple silicon mac pro is expected this year, and I'm sure Adobe would want AE to shine on the new machine.

 

[shuto]

I felt the random lags here and there, but I'm learning to appreciate what's offered to me.
While the M1 Ultra experience isn't the real-time compositing experience I expected (perhaps with poor judgement), but it's finally something I can work with.

Please remember that AE is very old school software, and it's pretty hard to optimize its performance...think how much it took for Multi-Frame-Rendering to become reality.
So I don't expect AE being optimize anytime soon.

That said, the apple silicon mac pro is expected this year, and I'm sure Adobe would want AE to shine on the new machine.

I feel a bit similar to you with the odd lag here and there, it’s ok and I’m just expecting too much.

I think it’s just when after effects does work perfectly it’s so so good, I’m just missing it being like that.

Adobe software now works so well with apple silicon, it’s so great to see, and a great reason to be on Mac.

 

[JippaLippa]

I feel a bit similar to you with the odd lag here and there, it’s ok and I’m just expecting too much.

I think it’s just when after effects does work perfectly it’s so so good, I’m just missing it being like that.

Adobe software now works so well with apple silicon, it’s so great to see, and a great reason to be on Mac.

I remember when Adobe software used to run better on macOS (like 12 years ago), then things changed dramatically, and I feel adobe software (other than Photoshop, Lightroom and Illustrator) ran horribly on macOS, and I know what I'm talking about, considering I have been working exclusively on macOS since 2011 (I bought the amazing last gen alluminum mac pro, which I still have).

Here's the bad boi (in need of some cleaning, but it's only dust)
Unfortunately it doesn't work mechanically, but I find it amazing as decor.

 

[StudioMacs]

I started to use Illustrstor and Photoshop on System 8 in the ‘90s. Back then only hobbyists used Windows for any graphics work.

2011 is recent history.

 

[hugodrax]

Great, from what I'm seeing on PugetBench M1 Max 32-Core 64GB systems get anywhere from 950 to 1030, on the Beta.

The M1 Ultra 48-Core gets around 1100 all the time, and the 64-Core gets around 1300, on the beta.

Now I'm ever more tempted to send back my Ultra and get a Max, getting back 2300Euros, however I'd be missing the 128GB of Ram...
I'd also plan on learning other software (such as Blender), which takes more advantage from the Ultra.

Very hard decision...

If you are in a financial situation where 2300 euros is a pain point I would return it and get the Max. Unless you are getting bang for the buck with the current solution it would make no sense to keep it.

 

[JippaLippa]

If you are in a financial situation where 2300 euros is a pain point I would return it and get the Max. Unless you are getting bang for the buck with the current solution it would make no sense to keep it.

I have settled on keeping the M1 Ultra, as I tested personally that all the cores are used by the app.
That's all I wanted.
Any lag that remains is on Adobe's side.
I now made peace and I'm satisfied with my M1 Ultra.

 

[shuto]

I also have a 4,1 > 5,1 Mac Pro. Which functions now as a stand for the Mac Studio under my desk. I could slightly hear the Mac Studio when it was on my desk, but under its silent as it should be. I use the Mac Pro as a file server mainly these days, but can also be used for CPU rendering in C4D if needed. I plan to get a 10GbE card for it so I can access the files off it quicker to the Mac Studio.

After Effects was laggy again today. Definitely feels like something is up with it. When I quit and relaunch AE that fixes it and it’s back to butter smooth, so hopefully Adobe are continuing to refine it. Actually I should file a big report just incase other people are having issues too

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

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I also have a 4,1 > 5,1 Mac Pro. Which functions now as a stand for the Mac Studio under my desk. I could slightly hear the Mac Studio when it was on my desk, but under its silent as it should be. I use the Mac Pro as a file server mainly these days, but can also be used for CPU rendering in C4D if needed. I plan to get a 10GbE card for it so I can access the files off it quicker to the Mac Studio.

After Effects was laggy again today. Definitely feels like something is up with it. When I quit and relaunch AE that fixes it and it’s back to butter smooth, so hopefully Adobe are continuing to refine it. Actually I should file a big report just incase other people are having issues too

Nice stand for your Studio. I like it...

 

[shuto]

My 64GB M1 Ultra Mac Studio ran out of ram when doing a crazy high resolution render (9024px wide by 1344px high 1m30s render)

Sad times.

I was worried had made the wrong buying decision and should have got 128GB ram (but now I'm out of my return window and machines take 10 weeks to come). Maybe I should have, but thankfully a system restart and trying again fixed it, and it managed to render. Phewee!

 

[Crispe]

This might be that memory bug in macOS Monterey rather than a normal hit to the ceiling of your RAM?
I mean After Effects shouldn't really be overloading your RAM anyway as it's meant to offload to your media cache when it maxes out?

 

[StudioMacs]

This might be that memory bug in macOS Monterey rather than a normal hit to the ceiling of your RAM?
I mean After Effects shouldn't really be overloading your RAM anyway as it's meant to offload to your media cache when it maxes out?

I thought the Monterey memory leak issue had been fixed?

 

[Crispe]

I thought the Monterey memory leak issue had been fixed?

Hmm I thought so too, but that screenshot from Shuto is far more memory than they actually have (64gb). So it seems like the memory leak?

 

[galad]

There isn't only a single generic "memory leak" out there that needs to be fixed and then everyone will be happy.

 

[shuto]

Hmm I thought so too, but that screenshot from Shuto is far more memory than they actually have (64gb). So it seems like the memory leak?

I thought maybe the 100gb was talking about real ram and compressed ram together? Dunno tho.

But yeah that’s good thinking about it that after effects should be able to handle being full up with ram, and it’s more a software issue, than not having enough hardware to render this comp

 

[sn1p3r845]

I just ran it on my maxed out m1 ultra with 4tb SSD, got 1146. I just loaded it in between projects without restarting or closing other apps like resolve so it was as real-world as it gets for me.

 

[shuto]

video copilot pluggins for after effects are now M1 native!

fx console oh how I've missed you!

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