Please STOP !

[Washac]

I really wish Apple would stop releasing OS's it's just crazy how many they release. No sooner has one
got settled in they release another then another then another, it's no wonder companies do not produce
software for Macs they just do not know if it will be working under the next weeks release.

Apple, please STOP producing OS's its just not required to produce so many so fast, people condoning their
jobs I assume I see no other reason.

 

[HDFan]

There are a lot of reasons for OS releases/updates: security, new features, support of new devices, etc.

If you don't want to update just don't do it, it is that simple. This may create some security issues however.

 

[HappyMBAowner]

I kind of agree. If it's only for security purposes, they don't need to change the whole os. They could just integrate security features into the existing os. Changing stuff around every year is very very annoying.

 

[Ritsuka]

Each version has got three years of security updates, so it would be possible to stay on a mostly secure version for three years.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I am all for getting updates which patch holes and fix bugs.At least Apple is proactive in this area.

 

[svanstrom]

I really wish Apple would stop releasing OS's it's just crazy how many they release. No sooner has one
got settled in they release another then another then another, it's no wonder companies do not produce
software for Macs they just do not know if it will be working under the next weeks release.

Apple, please STOP producing OS's its just not required to produce so many so fast, people condoning their
jobs I assume I see no other reason.

First of all, are you a MacOS developer?

The context of that questions is this: If you're not a developer you haven't got a clue whether or not there's actually a lot of work in supporting what you think is something completely new.

And if you're a developer: Please share your personal problems with supporting these updates from Apple.

 

[satcomer]

I go back to Steve days when Steve old Next guys listened to users and took Leopard and slimmed and modernized some of code and released Snow Leopard! Good times because after Snow Microsoft in Server 2010 finally allowed 10.6 users onto Active Directory natively! Good times being a Mac user seeing this!

heck even my Government job went Mac Minis shifting cell phones of bad guys overseas (Don’t worry we weren’t allowed to do that to US/Canada/Mexico citizens without a warrant)!

 

[Superhai]

This is stupid claim. Except for some high level changes like 64-bit only and security/privacy related changes, there are few changes that requires rewrite of code. You would be required to do something for supporting newer features, but most developers keep their code up to date anyway.

You can download software that’s years old and still run it on eg Big Sur (you have to override some security settings however and have 64-bit code).

Windows and Linux are slightly more forgiving, but also there you have to keep yourself updated as a developer.

 

[Airsculpture]

Wow. Never thought I'd hear someone say don't fix stuff.

 

[flowrider]

I do NOT believe that OS releases are coming too fast. Beta releases do come on the heals of one another, but not regular consumer releases. And YES, OS fixes are welcome.

And we have threads like this with folks chomping at the bit:

Is 11.2 coming out today?

Is 11.2 coming out today?

forums.macrumors.com

Lou

 

[||\||]

Wow. Never thought I'd hear someone say don't fix stuff.

The argument isn't to stop fixing things. A new OS every year is unnecessary. Things are broken in the process and it sometimes takes another 3-6 months for reliable stability and bugs to be worked out. That's inefficient and just plain dumb. It's a play to marketing, not functionality.

 

[Geepaw]

I agree that the pace of OS releases has more to do with marketing than technological advancement or user experience. That is why I stay on older, more stable, OSs until security updates are no longer provided by Apple. I tend to let others enjoy the role of guinea pig.

 

[zorinlynx]

If you're seeing a lot of releases lately, maybe you're on the Beta train? Open up System Preferences and Software Update; if you see the text circled in red you're on the Beta seed and that's why you're seeing so many updates.

If you click Details and Restore Defaults you will be back on the public release and will only see updates every couple months like normal.

 

[fisherking]

am sure apple will read the OPs post, and discontinue yearly OS releases. apple always does what a handful of people on an internet forum suggests, and has never followed their own path.

as said above, you don't have to upgrade your OS if you don't want. or... you can do anything you want to do, just as... apple does anything it wants to do. how it works, and has always worked.

 

[Geepaw]

am sure apple will read the OPs post, and discontinue yearly OS releases. apple always does what a handful of people on an internet forum suggests, and has never followed their own path.

as said above, you don't have to upgrade your OS if you don't want. or... you can do anything you want to do, just as... apple does anything it wants to do. how it works, and has always worked.

Yes and Apple is keeping the butterfly keyboard because they do not listen to consumers. Doesn't everybody know it's the future? Oh, wait, they removed it? Surprise, surprise. Same with the rumors about the Touch Bar. Any company that does not listen to its customers, over the long term, is going to run into problems.

 

[fisherking]

Yes and Apple is keeping the butterfly keyboard because they do not listen to consumers. Doesn't everybody know it's the future? Oh, wait, they removed it? Surprise, surprise. Same with the rumors about the Touch Bar. Any company that does not listen to its customers, over the long term, is going to run into problems.

any company would be foolish to not acknowledge their market; but apple designs what it designs (in hardware, or software), and these changes come... when they have to. nothing surprising about that.

 

[DeepIn2U]

I go back to Steve days when Steve old Next guys listened to users and took Lepird and slimmed and modernized some of code and released Snow Leopard! Good times because after Snow Microsoft in Server 2010 finally allowed 10.6 users onto Active Directory natively! Good times being a Mac user seeing this!

heck even my Government job went Mac Minis shifting cell phones of bad guys overseas (Don’t worry we weren’t allowed to do that to US/Canada/Mexico citizens without a warrant)!

Ahem ... Betrand Serlet would be upset in your only thinking of Leopard ... this was going on since the dawn of OSX especially with Panther.

 

[smorrissey]

Move to Android, you'll get 1 update each 1 or 2 years, by the second update your device is now old and the update makes it laggy and useless.

 

[flowrider]

^^^^Where did you hear that❓ I have two Android phones. The OS is updated every year, though unless you have a Google phone, if your phone is three model years old, you won't be getting the latest OS. But, both of my phones get security updates frequently, more than once every five of six weeks.

Lou

 

[MBAir2010]

 

[MacGizmo]

The argument isn't to stop fixing things. A new OS every year is unnecessary. Things are broken in the process and it sometimes takes another 3-6 months for reliable stability and bugs to be worked out. That's inefficient and just plain dumb. It's a play to marketing, not functionality.

One of these days somebody is going to point out the big muscle-bound goon that is twisting people's arm to hit that upgrade button.

 

[toke lahti]

There are a lot of reasons for OS releases/updates: security, new features, support of new devices, etc.

If you don't want to update just don't do it, it is that simple. This may create some security issues however.

Problem with ditching the "old" os every year is one of the main problems with my mini2018.

First they didn't "got time" to fix "sleeping mutes monitor's speakers when waking up (when audio is encapsuled to dp-stream in tb)" when Mojave was still "active". They did fix this for mbp almost in a month after Mojave was launched, but for mini, it took something like 2 years to get the fix hidden in one of several "security patches".

Secondly, they broke Safari badly after Mojave was "dead" and this was T2 issua and was fixed way later in a firmware update, also hidden in a "security patch".

Thirdly, when users have odd issues about how device and os interacts, Apple's support can always deny investigating any problem, if you are not running the latest os version. If you need, for some reason, to use older version, you are out of support. This saves a lot of Apple's money, since customer support is the biggest expense IT industry has.

 

[||\||]

One of these days somebody is going to point out the big muscle-bound goon that is twisting people's arm to hit that upgrade button.

 

[fisherking]

View attachment 1722619

that is a persistent reminder, and (annoying as it is), not forcing anyone to upgrade...

 

[ivnj]

I agree every year is a little excessive.