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ivnj said:
I agree every year is a little excessive.
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every one of us has an opinion, but apple can only have one release plan; so they do what works for them as a business... and we can move forward with them, or at our own pace. simple.

btw, why is Big Ron so angry? he's angry at every single thing i post; he's my first stalker! :cool:
 
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What's worse is often the "new features" are the removal of old features, many of which people liked and apple just never deployed resources to get working better. Like back to my Mac and many many others.
 
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Apple's engineers release updates every few months. Apple's marketing releases a new name and desktop picture once a year.
 
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I am sure glad Big Sur came out this year. Catalina was not in my list of favorite macOS's. macOS is like Star Trek movies, only the even numbered ones are good.
 
Nermal said:
I do wish that Apple would 'skip a year' and just tackle outstanding bugs. The majority of the bugs I've reported in the past year haven't been fixed yet, and it's easy to feel that Apple just doesn't care about releasing a quality OS.
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Exactly...
 
So you need fixes, and security fixes, and if you read many of the other forums people want new functions and new looks - so call it what you want you're going to get updates every year. Most current software releases stuff every year
 
Nermal said:
I do wish that Apple would 'skip a year' and just tackle outstanding bugs. The majority of the bugs I've reported in the past year haven't been fixed yet, and it's easy to feel that Apple just doesn't care about releasing a quality OS.
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Didn't they do that some years back? Vaguely remember a release where the emphasis was on internal improvements rather than new features.
 
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just...don't update it then.

why get even mildly worked up over something that is completely and fully optional? if your device works fine, just roll with it 🤷‍♂️
 
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I would not say updates are too fast, but I do feel they are rather poorly handled. I would rather smaller patches are streamed out when ready and installed automatically without the need to reboot the system. MacOS by now should be able to upgrade seamlessly in the background with little/no user intervention.
 
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MacGizmo said:
One of these days somebody is going to point out the big muscle-bound goon that is twisting people's arm to hit that upgrade button.
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Thing is you do not really get a choice because the software devs immediately move onto the the new OS leaving the old behind and you find yourself in the situation that to use new software/app you have to update, that is the arm twist that makes you hit the upgrade button.
 
If you buy a PC, you can run RHEL for 10 years+ on it.

You can easily skip a macOS release, I'm still on Mojave (and waiting for 11.2).

It took months, though, for them to fix the hibernate-results-in-reboot bug in Mojave, though while it was apparently fixed a bit earlier in Catalina....


Most people just don't have the discipline to not click on the "upgrade now!" button. Instant gratification etc.
 
Washac said:
Thing is you do not really get a choice because the software devs immediately move onto the the new OS leaving the old behind and you find yourself in the situation that to use new software/app you have to update, that is the arm twist that makes you hit the upgrade button.
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you can run an older OS, and older versions of apps... same as you did the day before a new OS came out. it's only when something (a bank site, for example) now requires a newer browser, that you have your 'arm twisted'... and even then, sometimes chrome (for example) will work... on the OS you're currently running.

so... no arm twisting!
 
To be honest, my main computers still work on mojave or high sierra. I deeply regret there are no more security updates for high sierra. I don’t need a new os every year. I want a stable system that i can use at least five years. Catalina and Big sur are less stable, unfortunately.
 
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Mac Hammer Fan said:
To be honest, my main computers still work on mojave or high sierra. I deeply regret there are no more security updates for high sierra. I don’t need a new os every year. I want a stable system that i can use at least five years. Catalina and Big sur are less stable, unfortunately.
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"Catalina and Big sur are less stable, unfortunately." this is based on your own experiences? or some posts you read on a forum?
 
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Apple and some of their more rabid Macoltyes have long sneered at Microsoft's 'Patch Tuesdays', yet a large part of that fan base hyperventilate each Fall if Apple doesn't release a new OS (or, that is to say, the same old OS, but with something sparkly for the "Squirrel!" effect) according to the user's perceived timeline. And they grow suspiciously silent when a seemingly rushed out-the-door (because it's the Fall!) OS then requires a number of patches (sorry...'updates') in rapid succession to make it stable.
For a number of Apple users, I'd like to suggest that many would be content with a stable core OS - "It Just Works", with incremental monthly 'updates' to fix niggling issues, and offering security updates - and leave the wholesale new OS to years when the Company actually has something to show for it - a "One more thing" moment - and that isn't going to create more issues than it fixes. And continue to support that stable core OS.

Yes, continue to offer Apple apps in the Store, for those who want to update their iWork, or Garageband or Safari, or whatever; and offer the ability for users to download from the Store and add the sparkly bits if they feel so inclined.

Otherwise, IIABDFI (If It Ain't Broke...) applies.
 
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Mac Hammer Fan said:
own experience which is confirmed by other users. ;)
But Big Sur is only 11.2. Let's see what 11.6 brings.
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so, you installed big sur on your 'main computers', but then reverted to the earlier OSes? and keep in mind, with every new mac OS (since forever), there are always users who have issues. big sur is just this year's version of that ;)
 
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Nermal said:
I do wish that Apple would 'skip a year' and just tackle outstanding bugs. The majority of the bugs I've reported in the past year haven't been fixed yet, and it's easy to feel that Apple just doesn't care about releasing a quality OS.
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Quoting my own post here, but now 11.2 is out and hasn't fixed any of my reported bugs that I've been able to immediately test (some of the issues are intermittent, but I'm not holding out much hope). This is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about...
 
Nermal said:
Quoting my own post here, but now 11.2 is out and hasn't fixed any of my reported bugs that I've been able to immediately test (some of the issues are intermittent, but I'm not holding out much hope). This is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about...
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which bugs? and are these things that everyone has? or some? or?? let us know specifics (perhaps in a separate thread), so perhaps, they can be addressed...
 
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Washac said:
Thing is you do not really get a choice because the software devs immediately move onto the the new OS leaving the old behind and you find yourself in the situation that to use new software/app you have to update,
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Again you don't have to update, just use the existing versions. The "new" version likely relies on features which the older OS doesn't offer. If you want the new features in the apps that you use you upgrade. If you don't need/want them don't.

The notable exception to this are the major transitions - from 32 to 64 bit binaries, and now to the new ARM hardware. Again you can chose not to upgrade to Catalina, but when you replace your Mac in the future there will be no choice as ARM and Intel are very different.
 
fisherking said:
every one of us has an opinion, but apple can only have one release plan; so they do what works for them as a business... and we can move forward with them, or at our own pace. simple.

btw, why is Big Ron so angry? he's angry at every single thing i post; he's my first stalker! :cool:
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You're lucky.. he hasn't got to this particular comment yet.. 😆

I've been following other threads were you were adult-yelled at for being too active on this forum - comment on Mac-related stories or giving your 2(or more) cents worth..

I would have said that I facepalmed when I read that , but I didn't facepalm. I only thought to myself that "Isn't that what this is all about? Commenting on what you see fit, using a good online tone when commenting?"

I don't know where people get their comment-quota references from. A forum isn't Twitter nor Facebook or Omegle. I'm not saying I'm elderly, but at one time online presence was only forums of all sorts. Aqua-Soft, Neowin(still is), MacThemes, HardwareGeeks and so on. (I mention those I was member on because I am very full of myself and my memory lasts only as far as the life I live and not how other people has lived their life)
 
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