Point and Shoot vs Phone

[soulreaver99]

The type of camera people own doesn't matter if they don't have it with them to capture the moment. Mr. Powershot, Nikon, Sony, etc... who cares.

Hardly anyone these days will carry a full sized camera, let alone a traditional P&S camera. What people do have with them most of the time is a smart phone, and that could may as well be the ONLY camera they own. I have an Sony A7III but I hardly bring it out with me unless it's for a specific project.

Recently, I was at a wedding and I was able to capture this with my smartphone - I was at the WORST possible angle and a bit far away but I didn't want to miss the moment where my friends were cutting the cake so I had to take the shot I had at the exact moment, standing where I was standing and had to digital zoom and make do with what I had to work with.

With the magic of the photos app and some cropping, I was able to share the photo I took and the bride and groom loved it. They didn't hire a photographer and had to rely on guests to capture that special day. If I was at the right spot, with the right camera, and the right lens, the right talent, etc... sure I could have taken a better photo. Or I could have taken nothing.

 

[AlaskaMoose]

How absurd! I cant remember everything I post!

Remember that a simple Internet search about, "Point and Shoot vs Phone" (the title of your thread) will yield a great number of articles about that subject. Also, you don't have to make your cellphone photos public. These photos are your private photos, and only become public when you post them online, just like a P&S or any other camera.

 

[kenoh]

Actually many have been mean and nasty to me and have been reported to the mods. Some have changed their attitude (such as you), but these are few and far in between.

Hmm, with respect and I am not getting into this, you have caused upset and frustration to a number of us with your lack of respect and defensive stance when your view is not shared.

I admit I lost patience with you and got grumpy. I am sorry I did that as I let myself down, not because of how I treated you. I don’t like that you brought that side of me out but I am trying to be helpful.

Please though, if you take the time to ask a question, please be respectful enough to try and remember the answer otherwise why ask it in the first place? Or, if you are just encouraging a discussion on the topic then say so - that is cool.

There is a universal internet forum rule though - not invented here - one is encouraged to search first, ask second.

 

[r.harris1]

Actually many have been mean and nasty to me and have been reported to the mods. Some have changed their attitude (such as you), but these are few and far in between.

Yes. I'm sorry that my responses may have been hurtful, as that's never my intent. Truly.

It's definitely true that you're unique in the number of times you felt the need to bring in the moderators for this sub forum, which I can't remember ever happening in this little corner of MacRumors in the decade+ I've lurked or participated. They may come in for "going off topic", which is "standard operating procedure" for us . Many of us have tried to be more even-handed in our language with you as a result of your use of the mods on our community and to use your threads to help others. At the end of the day, using more even-handed language is the adult thing to do.

As for iPhones vs P&S, or even P&S (or iPhones) vs "pro cameras" the answer is the same as always: It depends on your intent, otherwise it 100% doesn't matter the camera you have. Most people at baseball games are there to have fun with their family and friends and not get pictures of the action. iPhones (or whatever similar phone) make perfect sense. They have great capabilities and image quality. They're not going to get close up action shots on the field. For that you need a P&S with a good zoom or a "pro camera" with a long lens (which are frowned upon/forbidden in the stands). Regardless of the camera type, you control whether the images are available on line.

 

[bunnspecial]

Most people at baseball games are there to have fun with their family and friends and not get pictures of the action. iPhones (or whatever similar phone) make perfect sense. They have great capabilities and image quality. They're not going to get close up action shots on the field. For that you need a P&S with a good zoom or a "pro camera" with a long lens (which are frowned upon/forbidden in the stands).

Sitting on the sidelines of a YMCA gym(no bleachers, just chairs drug out to anywhere there's space) watching a volleyball game with a 70-200 f/2.8 can be an...interesting...experience(not that I know first hand).

 

[Clix Pix]

Whenever I have a question or concern about how or why something is functioning or not functioning in the way that I expect, first thing I do is to go online and do a Google search, figuring that I am not unique and that more than likely others have experienced the same issue(s). This usually does turn out to be the case and I get an answer, or better yet, a solution. If it is computer related, unsurprisingly, frequently the answers come from right here in MacRumors in one of the various subforums related to either software or hardware. If it is photography-related, usually the answers are found in a photography site forum discussion or in either the manufacturer's camera manual or a book written by someone else on configuring and using a given camera body.

A good computer-related example is something that occurred last week with a new external SSD. To make a long story short, after trying a couple of potential solutions which didn't work, I went online and ran a Google search, and saw that others had the same issue. Bingo! From the ensuing discussions in a couple of different places one solution -- workaround, actually -- was offered, which I used. I was able to resolve my problem because I took the initiative to run a Google search and to find solutions for myself. (The overall issue itself will need to be resolved by Apple, as it has to do with Monterey.)

Another example is a question I had yesterday about a particular function in my A1 camera body, so I simply looked in one of the books I had bought on configuring the camera body, read the section pertaining to the function, and that clarified things for me and answered my question.

 

[kenoh]

These days 99% of the people I see in public taking pictures are using phones. Once in a blue moon will I see someone with a pro camera but very rarely a point and shoot. What advantages do they have over a phone? For one the macro mode is a strong advantage that is as I understand only available on the pro iPhone 13 models.

At baseball games the photographers on the field are all using pro cameras but the fans once again phones.

Other advantages my Powershot has over a phone is the ability to keep my photos private and for only me. Yes I do not want everything I shoot to be on the internet. I want to choose what I want on the internet. There are more advantages my Powershot has over a phone that I cannot think of at this time. What about you what do you say?

OOH also, if you cast your mind back to say 2005 - or in other words pre smart phone, then using your number to illustrate, 99% of people wouldn’t have had a phone or any other device at all for that matter. The pros meanwhile would still be shooting pro cameras and those same bazooka sized lenses. What is different today is people like to watch live events via their phone screen now despite actually being there….

 

[bsamcash]

Am I going insane? Doesn't OP have at least two other threads about the same topic?

 

[bsamcash]

back to the topic

i took this photo with a point and shoot

this with a cell phone:

the cellphone one had a feature were i could adjust the aperture on the phone.

hoped this helped!

Almost pissed myself when I saw this.

 

[Clix Pix]

Am I going insane? Doesn't OP have at least two other threads about the same topic?

Nope, you're not going insane.....and it's not your imagination. Yes, he has other threads about the same topic.

 

[Clix Pix]

Good points. No I do not remember everything I post or read so as the education experts say repetition is good.

Two solutions to this: the first is that at the top of the thread is the menu bar which includes (from Left to Right): HOME NEW POSTS WATCHED YOUR CONTENT......etc. If you click on "Your Content" that will bring up the list of threads you have started.

The second solution is to run a search on yourself in MR via your Profile and look at the list of messages you've posted, which of course also includes the thread names.

 

[kenoh]

Almost pissed myself when I saw this.

I think I can guess which side of the Atlantic you hail from now…..

 

[MacNut]

No it did not help. You have not used a modern P&S.

What is a modern P&S?

 

[soulreaver99]

What is a modern P&S?

Mr PowerShot

 

[MacNut]

Mr PowerShot

What year though. They haven't changed much since the early 2000's.

 

[MBAir2010]

Almost pissed myself when I saw this.

your pants soiling comment on my comment received more likes than my comment!
let the kodak gods be praised!

 

[kenoh]

you pants soiling comment on my comment received more likes than my comment!
let the kodak gods be praised!

That there is a clear example of the power of third party corroboration.

 

[Fishrrman]

jwolf posted:
"How absurd! I cant remember everything I post!"

Comrade wolf, don't worry.
WE will remember, what you cannot...!

 

[jwolf6589]

jwolf posted:
"How absurd! I cant remember everything I post!"

Comrade wolf, don't worry.
WE will remember, what you cannot...!

Like your attitude. Some on this board think I can remember everything or that I should search before any post. How absurd!

 

[mollyc]

Like your attitude. Some on this board think I can remember everything or that I should search before any post. How absurd!

yes, actually you should search before you post. whether it's here or google, learning to do your own searching is a key skill in life. ?

 

[bsamcash]

Like your attitude. Some on this board think I can remember everything or that I should search before any post. How absurd!

Hey jwolf. I would like to see some of your work. Many members of the community here have convinced me to finally post to the Photo of the Day thread and everyone has been very welcoming. I sincerely suggest you do the same.