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Poll: 9.7" iPad 1G or 7" iPad 2G

iTouch said:
I think the 7" is very possible. If it sells well for other competitors then Apple will make it. I remember Mr. Jobs saying there is no point [money] in making a device like an iPad. The bottom line is if there is money to be made Apple will do it.
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Base this on a fact and not a feeling. If you have missed the show, these sudden tablet vapor producers are all following Apple's lead. If Jobs says no 7 inch tablets, you can count them as dead. When was the last time Apple followed anyone. Your argument is baseless and well FUD. Sorry but it just is.
 
iTouch said:
I think the 7" is very possible. If it sells well for other competitors then Apple will make it. I remember Mr. Jobs saying there is no point [money] in making a device like an iPad. The bottom line is if there is money to be made Apple will do it.
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This came to you in a dream? Listen to Jobs in the financial explain in detail why 7" is a stupid idea. His line about "7" tablets need to include sandpaper to file your finger down to 1/4 of their size" is pretty self explanatory. If you still believe this after listening, good luck.
 
Do you remember Job's infamous comment about the iPod not needing video? Just because he stated it doesn't make it fact. However I would agree with you on this, a 7" is unlikely at best.
 
sapporobaby said:
Base this on a fact and not a feeling. If you have missed the show, these sudden tablet vapor producers are all following Apple's lead. If Jobs says no 7 inch tablets, you can count them as dead. When was the last time Apple followed anyone. Your argument is baseless and well FUD. Sorry but it just is.
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Sorry so your argument is based on fact? Talk about baseless. I think we will all wait and see. But it's ignorant to say there is no chance at a 7". Like I said it's "very possible." There's an obvious demographic for the 7", which is why many competitors are making them.
 
I thought Jobs was right. A 7" iPad wouldn't have that "wow" factor either. I'd buy a Gen 1 iPad way before a Gen 2 iPad with a 7" screen.
 
Steve Jobs just down talked a 7" tablet when he went on a massive ****-talking spree about everything that exists in the world.
 
9.7" at 4:3 is a really optimal form factor for touch based applications.

7", especially the media-player style models with the 16:9 (16:10) aspect ratio are really hard to develop tablet stiyle Apps for -- especially when you need to also fit a human sized keyboard on the screen.

You can easily make Apps that work in that form factor, but the Apps are more similar to what you see on an iPhone or iPod Touch, and the keyboard is more similar to the thumb-style keyboard of phone-like devices. That's not bad, and I'm excited to see some of these 7" devices come out. But my expectation is tempered by the limitations those devices have. (Steve's finger sandpaper aside. LOL)

I think I'd rather have a 5"-6" wide screen format that fit easily in my pocket and had a slick thumb optimized onscreen keyboard. 7" just seems like such an awkward in-between size.
 
EthanNixon said:
Steve Jobs just down talked a 7" tablet when he went on a massive ****-talking spree about everything that exists in the world.
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No, he elaborated very specific arguments about why a 7" is a terrible idea including actual usage testing, fingers that can't work buttons too small, and developers having to target another form factor. It was very clear that this was something with a lot of thought in it, not just random dissing of the form factor because a competitor was using it. He even went so far as to predict they would be back next year with larger tablets and 7" inch owners abandoned. You can't get much more specific than that.
 
I think the strongest reason to do a 7" iPad would be to make a better eReader. As wonderful as the 9.7" screen is for web browsing and many other things, it's just to big and heavy to make a good reading device. I love my iPad, but I am now also loving my Kindle 3 for reading.

That said, I think that sticking with the bigger screen is the right choice for Apple. If a 7" iPad had been available, I would have still bought a $140 Kindle over a $350 (??) iPad-lite as a reader.
 
sapporobaby said:
My fact came from the mouth of Steve Jobs. Where does yours come from?
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And Mr. Jobs has a big mouth and is never wrong. Just because he said it doesn't make it fact. If you believe that you must be really young. Mr. Jobs said that there was no point in something like an iPad. Anyone remember that? Never say never.
 
SA22C said:
Says the guy with an XBox, which serves no useful purpose at all to anyone who isn't a professional gamer. :lol:

As to the OP: I really don't think that Apple will release a 7 inch iPad to replace the current form factor. I think that the 9.7 inch, 4:3 aspect iPad hits the sweet spot of portability and screen real-estate. If you haven't read Loop Insight's piece on the 7 inch iPad, it would appear that Apple has developed one in conjunction with the current form-factor since day one and has no plans to release it unless some currently un-released competitor really eats into iPad sales. This makes sense, because as of right now the iPad has no competition so why would Apple release another product that competes with its own offerings, or replace a runaway hit with an unproven model?

The next iPad will have Facetime capability as the main upgrade. I don't see them going too crazy with the iPad for next year.
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Dude,

Winni is serial whiner that has no other purpose in life other than to come and complain. We get it, he doesn't like the iPad. Wish he would go back to the basement and play with his Xbox.
 
iTouch said:
And Mr. Jobs has a big mouth and is never wrong. Just because he said it doesn't make it fact. If you believe that you must be really young. Mr. Jobs said that there was no point in something like an iPad. Anyone remember that? Never say never.
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Even when that is True, Jobs have never said anything like that close to product releases, this mean that even if the possibility for a future moving to that size, the "next" revision (2011) won't be
 
sapporobaby said:
Then you will be right. First time for everything.
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The list goes on....

In 2004, Jobs said that Apple would not introduce a video iPod, insisting the company was focused on music. We know what happened there.

In 2003, in an interview with Walt Mossberg at the All Things D conference, Jobs said Apple wouldn't do well in the cell phone business. Flash forward a few years.

During that same interview, he said Apple was not working on a tablet. "There are no plans to make a tablet," Jobs said. "It turns out people want keyboards.... We look at the tablet, and we think it is going to fail." Apparently, Apple filed a patent in 2004 for a tabletlike device. It may have been related to the iPhone, but to completely write off the tablet concept seems a tad suspect (of course, touch-screen technology has changed between 2004 and 2010).

In 2008, Jobs was famously not impressed with Amazon's Kindle. "It doesn't matter how good or bad the product is, the fact is that people don't read anymore," he said. "Forty percent of the people in the U.S. read one book or less last year. The whole conception is flawed at the top because people don't read any more." Yet, when he introduced the iPad back in January, he was more complimentary: "Amazon's done a great job at pioneering this functionality with their Kindle, and we're going to stand on their shoulders and go a bit further."
 
iTouch said:
The list goes on....

In 2004, Jobs said that Apple would not introduce a video iPod, insisting the company was focused on music. We know what happened there.

In 2003, in an interview with Walt Mossberg at the All Things D conference, Jobs said Apple wouldn't do well in the cell phone business. Flash forward a few years.

During that same interview, he said Apple was not working on a tablet. "There are no plans to make a tablet," Jobs said. "It turns out people want keyboards.... We look at the tablet, and we think it is going to fail." Apparently, Apple filed a patent in 2004 for a tabletlike device. It may have been related to the iPhone, but to completely write off the tablet concept seems a tad suspect (of course, touch-screen technology has changed between 2004 and 2010).

In 2008, Jobs was famously not impressed with Amazon's Kindle. "It doesn't matter how good or bad the product is, the fact is that people don't read anymore," he said. "Forty percent of the people in the U.S. read one book or less last year. The whole conception is flawed at the top because people don't read any more." Yet, when he introduced the iPad back in January, he was more complimentary: "Amazon's done a great job at pioneering this functionality with their Kindle, and we're going to stand on their shoulders and go a bit further."
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As I said jut a couple of post back, I don't really think anyone is arguing that Jobs comment make it "impossible" for Apple to make a 7" table. However you posted the time frame yourself, we can pretty much count on the next revision NOT being a 7''.

and to be honest the way OS x is heading I still agree with Jobs that the 7'' is a dead market, but Things can change in a year or two.
 
maturola said:
As I said jut a couple of post back, I don't really think anyone is arguing that Jobs comment make it "impossible" for Apple to make a 7" table. However you posted the time frame yourself, we can pretty much count on the next revision NOT being a 7''.

and to be honest the way OS x is heading I still agree with Jobs that the 7'' is a dead market, but Things can change in a year or two.
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I don't think you even read the comments I responded to. Some of the posters said the 7" will never be released because Mr. Jobs said so, which is ridiculous. I already said Never say never on a 7". If there is a market for it Apple will make it.
 
iTouch said:
I don't think you even read the comments I responded to. Some of the posters said the 7" will never be released because Mr. Jobs said so, which is ridiculous. I already said Never say never on a 7". If there is a market for it Apple will make it.
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Tim Cook also said in al interview that Apple gets a thousand great ideas a day but they can't act on them all. 7 inch iPads are one of the thousand that never see the light of day. If you want a 7 inch tablet so badly, you only have a few days to wait.
 
they'll get a 7inch version that 'works' sooner or later.

the 16:9 screens on all the me-too products mean I'll have to wait for apple to figure something out, though; even the ipad is cumbersome to hold in landscape, and in portrait you have little width to work with on a 1024x600 screen. Comic apps probably won't fare all that well, either.
 
I think it's very safe to say - there will be no 7" iPad for another 2 years. After that, who knows. But no 7" iPad in 2011, and 2012. People who think/hope otherwise are living in dreamworld.
 
Well the Samsung 7" Tab just dropped the ball because of the price according to everything I'm reading on different sites.

I really wanted a 7" but may have to look at the 9.7" ipad after doing more reading. It seems Android can't connect to ad hoc wifi(still need more reading to verify).

Guess it's wait it out to see what the PlayBook has and what iPad2 is going to bring
 
If iPad goes two models, I actually think it will be 9.7" and a larger option.

7" screen seems useless, at least for me, but perhaps there's market share to protect since many competetors go with that size.
 
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