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Hi Tom,

I think you are misunderstanding me. I'm not upset at all that people are talking about problems with their iMac. I also think it's great that folks are trying to pull information together to help decipher what's going on. (like in the thread I linked to a few posts above) But it does bother me when someone is, or at least appears to be, blasting the heck out of something with blanket-type comments. Take a look at the OP's recent comments:



Does this seem like he is trying to get to the bottom of the problem? Does it seem like he is contributing to the forum? In my eyes, he is simply taking an opportunity to continually bash Apple, just like he did two years ago. Now don't get me wrong: it's totally ok to not like a product and voice your opinion. But when all you can do is continually bash something and do so with outrageous claims (such as over 50% of all iMacs are effected), then yes, it begins to look like trolling.

Bryan

Unfortunately Bryan your recent actions on this thread, including insults, and the continuous attempts to hijack the thread by ridiculing the poll, all the unfortunate people with issues, etc. are uncalled for and frankly getting rather tiring.

In business numbers never lie. This poll, retailers, and now review sites worldwide have already confirmed the likely large number of defects.

FYI I just returned from my local Best Buy and interestingly enough the 27 inch iMac was taken off the floor! I quote the Manager "Apple does not want it on display"

Hi Tom,

Does this seem like he is trying to get to the bottom of the problem? Does it seem like he is contributing to the forum? In my eyes, he is simply taking an opportunity to continually bash Apple, just like he did two years ago. Now don't get me wrong: it's totally ok to not like a product and voice your opinion. But when all you can do is continually bash something and do so with outrageous claims (such as over 50% of all iMacs are effected), then yes, it begins to look like trolling.

Bryan

Bryan,

Here we go again. Am I trying to get to the bottom of the problem? What do you think I am? An Apple QC exec? Perhaps you should go back to the beginning of the thread. There you will see that a simple question has been asked about a specific problem. Period. No troubleshooting, hypothesizing, wishing, dreaming, or whatever else you are implying.

Then you falsely lie and accuse me of making "claims" (such as over 50% of all iMacs are "effected" :rolleyes:) which was NEVER made. What you read into the poll numbers is solely up to you.

Yes this is trollingl and now yes you should be reported.
 
Bryan,

I, for one, agree with solman that it would be good to have one place we could report problems with the new (and I stress: beautiful) machine. And no, I am not in the position to set up the poll.
Maybe you just don't like his writing style? Our exchanges seem to be quite civil...

Tom B.
 
Thanks Solman

I have an i5 on order and have been following threads like this in many forums. That a problem exists is undeniable.

The posts in this thread are meaningful because they "alert" people to the possible issues so people can be informed and act accordingly. I will be rationally and regularly inspecting my computer based on the experiences of others.

Those that have tried to hijack the thread, why do you do it? Your actions seem to serve no useful purpose other than to oppress the opinions of people with real problems by attacking the forum in which they express themselves. Really what do you hope to achieve because what you do achieve is that you come off as Apple employees undertaking damage control.

Please go away and let people have a voice. Go away and let people share their problems. Start your own thread if you feel so strongly about your position on this matter.

Keep it going Solman I have learnt a lot from your posters.
 
Unfortunately Bryan your recent actions on this thread, including insults, and the continuous attempts to hijack the thread by ridiculing the poll, all the unfortunate people with issues, etc. are uncalled for and frankly getting rather tiring.

In business numbers never lie. This poll, retailers, and now review sites worldwide have already confirmed the likely large number of defects.

FYI I just returned from my local Best Buy and interestingly enough the 27 inch iMac was taken off the floor! I quote the Manager "Apple does not want it on display"

Hear! Hear!

We may not have a statistically accurate database of the numbers of buyers of the new iMacs who are having problems, but there definitely are problems.

It could be one percent, ten percent, twenty percent, or higher. Or lower.

There are enough problems so that I have delayed my purchase of a new I7 iMac until there is official acknowledgment of the problems, fixes, and information from customers of the "revised" machines that the machines are performing properly.

I like Apple hardware, but for $2000+, I see no reason to be a guinea pig for that corporation, or go through the annoyance of waiting for the machine, opening the box, finding out the machine is faulty, and then packing it up and sending it back, hoping the next unit shipped is ok.

And for those naysayers who are claiming what we are reading about is coming from a statistically insignificant number of buyers...prove it.


. But when all you can do is continually bash something and do so with outrageous claims (such as over 50% of all iMacs are effected), then yes, it begins to look like trolling.

Bryan

How do you know what percentage of these new iMacs are having serious issues? Is it one percent, ten percent, twenty five percent? Could it be worse? What are the causes of these issues? Do you know? Has Apple acknowledged the problems publicly?

It's not bashing to use these posting groups to try to get information. For most of us, purchase of a new iMac will represent a significant outlay of cash. It would be nice to know we're not going to be spending a lot of time following up on a piece of hardware that is being shipped in a faulty condition.
 
Anyone using a UPS?

I saw some interesting comments in the discussion thread on these issues in the Apple Support Forums, centering on power - is anyone who is exhibiting these symptoms using a UPS?
 
After a few years of experience with a late model Macbook Pro and about a year of experience with my iMac, I think what Apple has to offer is a better operating system than Microsoft and better ergonomics than most computer makers.

But...

The claims that Apple uses "better" components than other computer makers is, I believe, pretty much b.s. The CPUs are basically the same, the video chips are basically the same, the memory is the same, the hard drives are the same, et cetera. Apple's motherboards may be proprietary, but that doesn't make them "better" or of higher quality than ASUS motherboards or Intel motherboards.

I like Apple's "stuff," but once you are inside the case, it's all pieces'n'parts, just like everyone else uses, and apparently and sadly with the same sort of QC problems Dell and HP have. NTW, at least the competitors' stuff costs a lot less. I got a "black friday" sales email from HP this morning, offering a new laptop with an I7 cpu, well-equipped, for under $1000. I7!
 
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