Other Poll: iPhone features that Apple MUST implement to light the spark again

[davedvdy]

1. The Notch is the signature design feature of the flagship iPhone. No different than the 3 pointed emblem on the nose of a Mercedes, tells the world you aren’t using a cheap used iPhone.

Seeing that they tried to pass a patent to put the Touch ID sensors under the screen, this would be an erroneous statement.
Rest assured, as technology advances, the notch will be going away eventually. I'd imagine they are already working on ways to get rid of or reducing it. If Apple saw it as such a "signature design move" even now, then they wouldn't be hiding it with those oil bubble wallpapers.

2. No one felt ripped off a year ago when the $1000+ iPhone X sold 50 million units and became the best selling smartphone in history.

The best selling smartphone would be the iP6 and 6+ with 220 million units sold, followed by the Nokia 5230:

https://www.androidauthority.com/5-best-selling-smartphones-888017/

3. You don’t know much about luxury branding and pricing strategies.

Steve Jobs even said in the D3 conference they need to price aggressively and go for volume, and when they stray from that, they don't see the best results.

"Analysts blame Apple's new sky-high pricing for drop in iPhone sales that sent shares plunging by $73bn"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...p-staggering-446-BILLION-just-two-months.html

 

[boltjames]

Seeing that they tried to pass a patent to put the Touch ID sensors under the screen, this would be an erroneous statement.

Apple issues thousands of patent applications a year as a safeguard and a way by which to ensure that competitors don't run even with the ideas they've rejected. Every Fortune 100 company has legions of staffers and designers doing this.

The best selling smartphone would be the iP6 and 6+ with 220 million units sold, followed by the Nokia 5230

Unit sales are meaningless. Public company strategies are built on revenue targets and profit generation. Selling fewer units of the iPhone X at 3x the customary iPhone pricepoint is what drove that handset to become the best selling smartphone in history and pushed Apple to its apex of size and dominance just a scant few months ago.

Steve Jobs even said in the D3 conference as stating to price aggressively and go for volume, and when they stray from that, they don't see the best results.

That was 14 years ago! LOL. Come now, that's a lifetime ago in tech. Back in 2005 going for volume was the right decision because grabbing market share to get the iPod to become the de-facto Walkman of its era and the iTunes Music Store to become the new Tower Records was the goal. Very different today in a saturated and mature smartphone business. It's no longer about volume. It's about profit generation. The X was amazing because it achieved both objectives.

"Analysts blame Apple's new sky-high pricing for drop in iPhone sales that sent shares plunging by $73bn"

Analysts are wrong far, far more than they are right. Last year Ming-Chi Kuo, the so-called 'expert' on Apple that so many of you follow around like the pied piper, declared the iPhone X such a bad product that he predicted it would be the fastest discontinued product in Apple history. LOL. Turns out it was the greatest consumer electronic product ever released. Stop listening to analysts and start listening to consumers. I'm a consumer and I got this right last year. I know what I'm talking about.

 

[jimmy_uk]

I hate to say it, but I think the spark is gone for phones in general. It's just a matured device at this point, so there isn't anywhere all that special to take it anymore.

All I really want from Apple is to get rid of the input-blocking in iOS so that even fast devices don't feel slow due to having to repeat inputs.

When the phone that can fold out into my tablet matures, say generation 3, then the spark will be flame on!

 

[davedvdy]

Apple issues thousands of patent applications a year as a safeguard and a way by which to ensure that competitors don't run even with the ideas they've rejected. Every Fortune 100 company has legions of staffers and designers doing this.



Unit sales are meaningless. Public company strategies are built on revenue targets and profit generation. Selling fewer units of the iPhone X at 3x the customary iPhone pricepoint is what drove that handset to become the best selling smartphone in history and pushed Apple to its apex of size and dominance just a scant few months ago.



That was 14 years ago! LOL. Come now, that's a lifetime ago in tech. Back in 2005 going for volume was the right decision because grabbing market share to get the iPod to become the de-facto Walkman of its era and the iTunes Music Store to become the new Tower Records was the goal. Very different today in a saturated and mature smartphone business. It's no longer about volume. It's about profit generation. The X was amazing because it achieved both objectives.



Analysts are wrong far, far more than they are right. Last year Ming-Chi Kuo, the so-called 'expert' on Apple that so many of you follow around like the pied piper, declared the iPhone X such a bad product that he predicted it would be the fastest discontinued product in Apple history. LOL. Turns out it was the greatest consumer electronic product ever released. Stop listening to analysts and start listening to consumers. I'm a consumer and I got this right last year. I know what I'm talking about.

Though, you use unit sales to try to make your point, and then retract it? Come back with actual data here that the iPhone X is the best selling smartphone of all time. It sold the most units in Q1 of 2018, but it isn't the best selling smartphone ever.

 

[Benhamdoun]

Better software not hardware! Make IOS home screen customisable. Is so dated and doesn't allow anyone to personalize it. Folders are a design disgrace compared to Android Nova launcher. If you have only two apps to merge they are a minuscule size and you have 14 ugly spaces so copy Android and make apps stackable. Allow easy deletion of files within apps. It's ridiculous in this day and age that you have to uninstall apps to free up lots of space. There are so many obvious shortcomings to IOS borne out of the control freak mentality of Apple that it is becoming very frustrating. Like living under a communist regime.

 

[Azzin]

A 3 figure price point.

 

[Ralfi]

Nothing you’ve listed

Ouch. Cmon play along.

Not that Apple are in desperate need to light the spark again, as you say - I know my next iPhone will be much better than my last as I upgrade every few years - but I still ticked many of those boxes, treating them as features I’d like to see.

Most notably, making Google Maps & Assistant the default applications (software), & a tri-fold screen - think Westworld (hardware).

 

[StellarVixen]

None of these are particularly bad suggestions, but none of them will address the fact that phones are commodities now and the market is fairly saturated.

This! End of discussion!

 

[puma1552]

How about a $100 price cut across the board, 128 GB base storage, ProMotion displays, and capable cell phone reception again?

Oh, and 326 ppi is done with. 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, and it'll be there until nearly the end of 2019 right now at least. If 326 ppi is just fine according to Apple, then what on earth were they doing releasing a 458 ppi phone? They know 326 ppi is an insult, so let's up the base base base ppi to 400+; it's been damn near a decade, I'm sure we are ready to move on and Apple's margins can survive the progress - they could've survived the change five years ago.

I honestly was shocked Apple didn't dial the price down a hundred bucks with the 2018 release. Very ballsy to keep it at a freakin' grand, yet somehow for the complaining done here about the current prices, Apple still somehow successfully convinced half the forum that $750 is now squarely in the "budget" range and should be lacking features and is an outstanding deal for what you get.

And here we are with yet another thread talking about TouchID, let. it. go. It is NEVER coming back. And Jonny Consumer has zero interest in 5G, half the people buying or who own an iPhone that I encounter don't even know what model is in their hands, let alone concern themselves with some technical crap.

 

[Act3]

Bringing back the 3.5 headphone jack would be a start. Apple's experiment on guiding the industry (forcing) to no headphone jack isn't working. Dell now calls it a "universal headphone jack"

 

[pika2000]

I'm voting for a night mode/sight/HHT. Sure, iPhones do a decent job at lowlight, but I recently have a first hand experience with Huawei's night mode, and damn it's good, and this is not even from the flagship Kirin 920/930, it's just from their mid-range Kirin 710. It was quite a revelation.

With the prowess of the Ax ISP, which imo is a lot more capable than SD or Kirin, Apple should be able to offer something similar. I'm sure Apple has a philosophy about total ease of use of just point and shoot, but with so many modes now available on the camera app anyway (portrait, square, pano, slo-mo, etc), it wouldn't hurt to add night mode, or have the so-called "AI machine learning" detect low light and suggest night mode automatically.

 

[44267547]

Bringing back the 3.5 headphone jack would be a start. Apple's experiment on guiding the industry (forcing) to no headphone jack isn't working. Dell now calls it a "universal headphone jack"

Apple isn’t going to revert to returning the 3.5 mm Jack, it’s gone and it’s done for. The Reality is, even if they try to promote the AirPods, Bluetooth is becoming more prominent every day, it’s not replacing wired, but it certainly is becoming a stronger alternative, simply because it’s convenient. Multiple Apple executives have stated that the 3.5 mm Jack was antiquated, consuming too much space and ready for the shift to different technology for internal space with the iPhone. Although I appreciate the 3.5 mm Jack, I support Apple in their decision to remove it.

 

[balaplus]

A truly truly intelligent Siri !!

 

[1rottenapple]

None of the choices are deal breakers. People are not upgrading because it doesn’t make sense. It’s too expensive for most people. Their current phone works. Unless they drop the price to 300 people aren’t gonna upgrade until they need to do so like the phone breaks.

A regular user is not gonna drop 850 or more just because there’s a high speed charger or usb c. Oh I get to buy more cords cause my lightning is outdated? Nah they won’t.
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Can “drop the price” be listed as a feature

Ya!!!!

 

[AttilaTheHun]

1. The the notch is not an exclusive feature to the iPhone, perhaps a bit of research is in order there.

2. The iPhone X sold better than any model in the first quarter of last year. It was a long way from being the best selling phone in smartphone history. Remember your iPhone 6? Apple have not yet matched the peak of 2015.

3. Luxury branding tends to be exclusive, not selling 50 million units to people of all financial demographics lol. The faux status symbol strikes again.

the iPhone X turn out as a prototype from day one I didn't buy it and Apple stop making too but they still sell the 7 and the 8 but no X

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

the iPhone X turn out as a prototype from day one I didn't buy it and Apple stop making too but they still sell the 7 and the 8 but no X

I think that was more to do with the fact the XS is only a slight improvement over the X. Keeping them both in the line up would have meant consumers would simply buy the X at it’s reduced price and draw sales away from its replacement. You can still buy the X though from certain retailers and quite cheap now. I opted for the 8+ this year as it’s probably the most developed phone they currently offer.

 

[Act3]

Apple isn’t going to revert to returning the 3.5 mm Jack, it’s gone and it’s done for. The Reality is, even if they try to promote the AirPods, Bluetooth is becoming more prominent every day, it’s not replacing wired, but it certainly is becoming a stronger alternative, simply because it’s convenient. Multiple Apple executives have stated that the 3.5 mm Jack was antiquated, consuming too much space and ready for the shift to different technology for internal space with the iPhone. Although I appreciate the 3.5 mm Jack, I support Apple in their decision to remove it.

Time will tell, I find it odd that the latest mac book air and the mac mini (both introduced in Oct) have the headphone jacks yet the iPad pro doesn't. Apple giving mixed messages as if they are really trying to kill off the 3.5 jack. Obviously not too antiquated to include in their latest laptop/pc offerings.

 

[hasanahmad]

Interesting that in this poll I created the highest vote has gone to removing the notch.

I wonder if physical aesthetics are also a driving factor. Even if the phone had a modest update as iPhone XS and instead of notch it was a bezel at the top thus making the screen seamlessly rectangular, that folks would have said I want to buy that phone , even those that didn’t this time

 

[azeeb]

Interesting that in this poll I created the highest vote has gone to removing the notch.

I wonder if physical aesthetics are also a driving factor. Even if the phone had a modest update as iPhone XS and instead of notch it was a bezel at the top thus making the screen seamlessly rectangular, that folks would have said I want to buy that phone , even those that didn’t this time

And 2nd highest is touch ID under the screen. Both seem to imply there are a large number of people out there not interested in buying a phone with face ID.

 

[Act3]

Interesting that in this poll I created the highest vote has gone to removing the notch.

I wonder if physical aesthetics are also a driving factor. Even if the phone had a modest update as iPhone XS and instead of notch it was a bezel at the top thus making the screen seamlessly rectangular, that folks would have said I want to buy that phone , even those that didn’t this time

Having a notch on the screen that is used more for media and other things really makes no sense. I have an xr and it really sticks out after I’ve been using my ipad for a while. Where is the Face ID notch on the new iPad pros ?

 

[Hernan4651]

Is this A Samsung S10 topic? It will have half of that options haha.
This year will be bad for Apple( you know, bad for Apple, only 80M phones sold xD) but next they will go all in for sure.
For me, as Samsung waited to get a notch less design Apple will do the same waiting for the all screen Iphone with under display camera.
The problem for Apple is that it depends on another manufacturer and today is very hard for them to make something new, cause the best displays are made from Samsung and Lg and if you want an all screen with under display camera you need to wait for them and maybe they will get that feature in their flagships first of course. And remember that OLED cutouts patents are owned by Samsung for the next 2 years

 

[I7guy]

I think that was more to do with the fact the XS is only a slight improvement over the X. Keeping them both in the line up would have meant consumers would simply buy the X at it’s reduced price and draw sales away from its replacement. You can still buy the X though from certain retailers and quite cheap now. I opted for the 8+ this year as it’s probably the most developed phone they currently offer.

The Xs is to the x as the 6s was to the 6. The 6s may have had the same form factor as the 6 but as we know the internals told a different story.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The Xs is to the x as the 6s was to the 6. The 6s may have had the same form factor as the 6 but as we know the internals told a different story.

I owned both the 6 and 6S and there wasn’t a huge performance jump between those devices. The improvements were welcome as Apple under spec’d the 6 as we all know. There’s enough comparison data out there for us to know the difference between the X and XS is not huge either. Fractional speed differences and an improved camera. It’s what we’ve come to expect in recent years.

 

[Act3]

I owned both the 6 and 6S and there wasn’t a huge performance jump between those devices. The improvements were welcome as Apple under spec’d the 6 as we all know. There’s enough comparison data out there for us to know the difference between the X and XS is not huge either. Fractional speed differences and an improved camera. It’s what we’ve come to expect in recent years.

Huge performance difference with the 2 gig of ram

 

[mnsportsgeek]

Nothing here would light the spark. It would have to be something we didn't know we wanted.