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Danny82

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With all the hype in Apple silicon mac, would like to know which are the popular application that even intel base mac cannot run in mac os and need only windows 10 to run.. making intel base mac more valuable because of boot camp.. let's discuss :)

P.s. I do know that Apple silicon mac will have Rosetta but I am betting on that Rosetta will only help on x86 application which currently run on intel base mac in mac os.. so would like to know those application which only can run in windows 10 and not even on intel base mac os..
 

Janichsan

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Solidworks
Adobe Framemaker (still extremely popular for technical documentation)
MS Visio
 

Phil A.

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Microsoft Project, Access, Visio, Publisher, Power BI Desktop, Visual Studio Professional (I know there is a MacOS one and I use it, but it's only got part of the functionality), SQL Server and SQL Server Management Studio are some of the apps I use pretty regularly which all require Windows (OK, you can deploy SQL Server in a Docker container on MacOS, but it still requires Intel)
 
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tdar

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I assure you that someone will have a way to run all of these apps under Big Sur on Apple Silicon before you know it. The AS machines are really going to be the Swiss army knife of computers.
 
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The_Interloper

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Dragon Naturally Speaking/Professional dictation software. Mac version was discontinued a few years ago, many I know use the PC version in a Windows VM on Mac. ARM will kill that for good.
 

peanutbridges

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Autodesk Revit

Revit and 3ds Max. Not to mention most of the entire Autodesk suite needed for coordination. They got Maya over to multi-platform and AutoCAD on both but apparently even when Mac was x86 strong, the 3ds Max code was just going to take too long (developer on their forum said 2-3 years just for foundations) to port over. And the percentage of Revit users willing to switch over to Mac or waiting on it is small and likely already on other programs like Vectorworks or Archicad.

If Blender can port its OpenGL code to ARM with some help from Apple, then Rhino3D has a chance to move to ARM. But if Apple depreciates it entirely and doesn't provide that option then perhaps another prominent crossover tool is gone. Same for Modo, Nuke, Houdini, etc. Apple's ideal target audience for easy porting is incredibly narrow.


It's been a long-standing issue. I know Apple can do a lot of accelerators and stuff with Metal but for crossplatform, it's just such a damn hassle to develop specifically for it. And moving forward, developing for more or less a self-contained platform.

As someone else mentioned, Solidworks. Plenty of professional applications will likely just stay Windows now and drop their Mac equivalent moving forward. Or possibly look at the state of Linux usage. Dropping support for Nvidia entirely long ago does not help Apple either. These programs do run better under Quadro/FirePro. When running $300,000 simulations, don't trust accurate viewport to any onboard GPU.
 
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donawalt

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Quicken.

Now there is a Mac version, but there are issues - (1) it's still not function equivalent of the Windows version, which is a big issue for some not quite as much to me, but (2) they have a migration of data file from Windows to Mac, but it has a very fundamental flaw reported but never fixed. This flaw results in account balances of investments being way off, with no hope of reconciling the problem other than just adding an adjusting balance entry.

Here is the issue - it's quite common to sell shares from one mutual fund and have the proceeds used to purchase shares of another fund (or other way around) - some places like Vanguard or T Rowe Price will call that an "exchange". When a data file is migrated from Windows to Mac, it brings across only half of the transaction - only one mutual fund is affected. This is because the Windows side does this in one transaction, the Mac side still requires two transactions to implement what is truly one transaction - yet in data migration one migration is mapped to one less functional transaction - oops!

As I have 1100 of these transactions over 25 years of Quicken (the conversion program even reports them, but doesn't handle them!), it's not a viable solution to move from Windows to Mac for me. Also, none of the reports I have created over 25 years convert across - which is even more work to re-create on the Mac side.

What is silly is that a Quicken license gives you the ability to use either product - yet they are incompatible. I run Parallels to handle my personal finances as a result.
 

johannnn

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It's not just about popular applications. It's also all the smaller applications that some companies use. My company have built their own windows apps, that are necessary for all employees to have. I'd managed to persuade my boss into getting me a Mac, because I can just run those apps with Parallels. But there's no way the software dudes will port their intel windows apps to arm windows apps. They just don't have the man power. Which means I'm stuck with an Intel Mac, or a ****** windows computer.
 

BeatCrazy

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Blue Iris. But you wouldn't use that via Bootcamp, as it typically runs 24/7 as an interface/recorder to your home security cameras.
 

theorist9

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Most of the pre-cloud custom software that companies have built for internal use by their employees is Windows-only. Examples might include HR software to keep track of and process salary and benefits; technical software for process control at a chemical plant; software used by sales teams to set up sales, review client accounts; etc.

Bootcamp/Parallels/VMWare meant that employees that needed to use such software could request either a Mac or a PC (if a choice was offered).

As far as commercial software goes, here's a list from Wikipedia (though much of it is older):
 
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