Possible major blow for Huawei Smartphones

[stylinexpat]

Before you get into bed with them,

Google CEO saying hauwei sends your data to China.

Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt says there's 'no question' Huawei routed data to Beijing

Huawei has often been accused of posing risks to national security, with U.S. officials worried it could enable Chinese espionage.

www.cnbc.com

Hacking in the 90s stealing canadian tech.

Nortel hacked to pieces

Brian Shields and a third-party digital forensics expert who worked on the investigation shed more light on the cyber criminals they were pursuing, their intentions…

business.financialpost.com

Hacking in europe.

Poland spy arrest: China telecoms firm Huawei sacks employee

The Chinese telecoms firm says Wang Weijing acted on his own and brought the company into disrepute.

www.bbc.com

Devices built with backdoors.

Is China really using Huawei to hack the world's communications?

Huawei is one of the world's biggest smartphone manufacturers but countries are banning its tech after security concerns have been raised. What's going on?

www.wired.co.uk

Source: https://assets.publishing.service.g...HCSEC_Oversight_Board_Report_2018_-_FINAL.pdf

Additional Expert views.

Is Huawei a security threat? Seven experts weigh in

The Verge convened authorities to hear their opinions

www.theverge.com

Phones sending information back to China.

Secret Chinese Code That Sends Information Back To China Found On Huawei and ZTE Phones -

Chinese phone makers Huawei and ZTE, who are Telstra's key manufacturing partner for their house brand pre-paid phones, have been caught up in claims that their budget devices are secretly sending user data - including full text messages back to a secret Chinese server.

www.smarthouse.com.au

channelnews : UPDATED: Telstra Concerned Over Spying Software As Huawei OZ Fail To Respond

Smartphone makers Huawei and ZTE who are part owned by the Chinese Government, have both denied that their devices ever had the controversial Adups software that sends personal information back to Chinese servers, installed on their devices in the USA, however neither Company has issued a...

www.channelnews.com.au

Gotta be crazy to be supporting a company like that imo, bad choice -- obvious by now you cannot trust or believe a company like them, they lied about Starcom in Iran to boot on record, all they do is lie.

“There’s no question that Huawei has engaged in some practices that are not acceptable in national security,” Schmidt said in a documentary to be aired on BBC radio.
“There’s no question that information from Huawei routers has ultimately ended up in hands that would appear to be the state,” he added. “However that happened, we’re sure it happened.”


He did not say that current smartphones being sold in the US are sending data back to China. His claim was quite vague with no evidence to back it. In the US data from your smartphone can also be shared with government, state and tracked (the irony and hypocrisy there).

 

[TiggrToo]

Everyone of us see it from different corner so you are entitled to assume whatever you want.

Some of us like to believe rumors, others like facts.

 

[jamezr]

“There’s no question that Huawei has engaged in some practices that are not acceptable in national security,” Schmidt said in a documentary to be aired on BBC radio.
“There’s no question that information from Huawei routers has ultimately ended up in hands that would appear to be the state,” he added. “However that happened, we’re sure it happened.”


He did not say that current smartphones being sold in the US are sending data back to China. His claim was quite vague with no evidence to back it. In the US data from your smartphone can also be shared with government, state and tracked (the irony and hypocrisy there).

I hope you can see all the data that is being said about Huawei and come to the conclusion that where there is enough smoke...there has to be a fire. Even if you don't want to believe there is a fire.

I agree that some data from my phone (i live in the US) ends up in the US government's data collection apparatus. BUT that is a far cry from the communist Chinese government that spies censors and suppresses its people.
There is no denying that Huawei spies using it's infrastructure products such as routers and switches and sends the data back to China. It has been proven that some Huawei phones are sending data back to China as well.

There is so much information out there if people just look.

 

[stylinexpat]

I hope you can see all the data that is being said about Huawei and come to the conclusion that where there is enough smoke...there has to be a fire. Even if you don't want to believe there is a fire.

I agree that some data from my phone (i live in the US) ends up in the US government's data collection apparatus. BUT that is a far cry from the communist Chinese government that spies censors and suppresses its people.
There is no denying that Huawei spies using it's infrastructure products such as routers and switches and sends the data back to China. It has been proven that some Huawei phones are sending data back to China as well.

There is so much information out there if people just look.

I get what you and others are saying. Huawei does have the capability and technology to spy on people. They also "like others" work with some governments around the world where they sell them spying technology tools. They can sell them with and without them. Does the fact that they sell them to some countries mean that all their devices have them. The US and Israel sell weapons and spying equipment to others around the world as well which spy on people. I do believe that many countries around the world probably request such equipment. The fact that some buy them from China and not the US or others probably irks some. China is run by a communist country and very most likely has backdoors and spy technology in many if not most local devices but when they export products to western countries that are sold to retail consumers I really doubt that they would be stupid enough to put such stuff into the retail products in western markets but if you asked me about items being sold regime run countries then yes I would believe it. There are no angels out there including Apple as Apple met half way with China and allowed for their cloud server to operate in China with a local back door to China but in the US and other countries you don't use China's cloud server so you don't have to worry about this Huawei would not have offered to sign a no spy agreement with governments in countries overseas of which it wished to do business with.

 

[jamezr]

Like I have said many many time over.... The cost of doing business with China is a very security risk.

Chinese bank requires foreign firm to install app with covert backdoor
A multinational tech company gets schooled in the risks of doing business in China.

Chinese bank requires foreign firm to install app with covert backdoor

A multinational tech company gets schooled in the risks of doing business in China.

arstechnica.com

 

[stylinexpat]

Like I have said many many time over.... The cost of doing business with China is a very security risk.

Chinese bank requires foreign firm to install app with covert backdoor
A multinational tech company gets schooled in the risks of doing business in China.

Chinese bank requires foreign firm to install app with covert backdoor

A multinational tech company gets schooled in the risks of doing business in China.

arstechnica.com

Which large multinational company was this..?

 

[jamezr]

Which large multinational company was this..?

did you read the article? Any information you need would be there.

 

[jamezr]

This is the reason Huawei and others should not be used to install 5G equipment

Researchers unearth malware that siphoned SMS texts out of telco’s network

The security firm said Messagetap belongs to APT41, one of several advanced persistent threat hacking groups that researchers say is sponsored by the Chinese government. The group is apparently using the malware to spy on high-ranking military and government officials. In a report, the researchers said the malware allows China’s intelligence services to obtain a wide range of sensitive data at scale.

Researchers unearth malware that siphoned SMS texts out of telco’s network

Messagetap monitored telco’s network for messages sent between high-value targets.

arstechnica.com

 

[stylinexpat]

did you read the article? Any information you need would be there.

I did and I saw this


“A large, multinational technology company got a nasty surprise recently as it was expanding its operations to China.”

That does not say much.
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This is the reason Huawei and others should not be used to install 5G equipment

Researchers unearth malware that siphoned SMS texts out of telco’s network

Researchers unearth malware that siphoned SMS texts out of telco’s network

Messagetap monitored telco’s network for messages sent between high-value targets.

arstechnica.com

US and Israel also have similar programs in place. No..?

 

[jamezr]

I did and I saw this


“A large, multinational technology company got a nasty surprise recently as it was expanding its operations to China.”

That does not say much.
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US and Israel also have similar programs in place. No..?

Hmmmm didn't see the US mentioned in the article.

You can read into the first article what you want....they don't want their name published as it is bad publicity.

Again...I have (and others) provided enough data in these threads for any reasonable person to come to the conclusion that Huawei spies for the communist government of China.
You have done nothing but try to deflect.

 

[stylinexpat]

Hmmmm didn't see the US mentioned in the article.

You can read into the first article what you want....they don't want their name published as it is bad publicity.

Again...I have (and others) provided enough data in these threads for any reasonable person to come to the conclusion that Huawei spies for the communist government of China.
You have done nothing but try to deflect.

It's not deflecting I asked for a relevant reason. You deflected when I first asked. I was waiting for your reply in order to further discuss this but again you made a post and when asked about it you deflected. If you answer we can discuss this but remember that double standards are not cool

 

[jamezr]

It's not deflecting I asked for a relevant reason. You deflected when I first asked. I was waiting for your reply in order to further discuss this but again you made a post and when asked about it you deflected. If you answer we can discuss this but remember that double standards are not cool

lol...not the first time you copy what I say back in your replies.
It shows you have nothing to discuss and would rather play word games.

There has been a veritable mountain of data that shows Huawei cannot be trusted. That they spy and steal IP property. That they are in bed with China to steal data from their customers.
There has been enough data posted in this thread and others that any reasonable person would come to the conclusions I have stated above.

You posted an article about Israel and spying and insinuated the the US was involved yet the article didn't mention the US...only Israel. That was you deflecting....

US and Israel also have similar programs in place. No..?

You can keep you head in sand and deflect and play word games. It won't change the facts.

 

[stylinexpat]

lol...not the first time you copy what I say back in your replies.
It shows you have nothing to discuss and would rather play word games.

There has been a veritable mountain of data that shows Huawei cannot be trusted. That they spy and steal IP property. That they are in bed with China to steal data from their customers.
There has been enough data posted in this thread and others that any reasonable person would come to the conclusions I have stated above.

You posted an article about Israel and spying and insinuated the the US was involved yet the article didn't mention the US...only Israel. That was you deflecting....


You can keep you head in sand and deflect and play word games. It won't change the facts.

I think you should start your own threads. One to bash China and one to bash Huawei instead of trolling other threads with posts deflecting from thread topic and “from replying to those who reply to your own quotes and posts.”

 

[jamezr]

I think you should start your own threads. One to bash China and one to bash Huawei instead of trolling other threads with posts deflecting from thread topic and “from replying to those who reply to your own quotes and posts.”

Maybe you could read the thread topic? Huawei is a Chinese company and everything I posted is factual.

If you have data to dispute anything I have posted ...then lets see it.
Not where you think others are doing the same things but actual DATA to dispute ANYTHING i have posted.

 

[ANTAWNM26]

Maybe you could read the thread topic? Huawei is a Chinese company and everything I posted is factual.

If you have data to dispute anything I have posted ...then lets see it.
Not where you think others are doing the same things but actual DATA to dispute ANYTHING i have posted.

This is what’s crazy you both are right. It’s very ignorant of you to think the US is not doing the same. Eric Snowden? Man stop

 

[stylinexpat]

Maybe you could read the thread topic? Huawei is a Chinese company and everything I posted is factual.

If you have data to dispute anything I have posted ...then lets see it.
Not where you think others are doing the same things but actual DATA to dispute ANYTHING i have posted.

Post 405 is off topic. You deflected off topic by posting that post but out of courtesy I replied and asked you a question which you then continued to deflect on instead of answering. I am done with responding to you. Please start your own threads to bash China, Chinese companies and Huawei. Last but not least remember before posting that before you accuse Huawei of data theft that Google does the same.

I have never denied that "in China" Huawei does not do this just as "In America" Google along with others do this as well. In China, China collects and in the US the US collects. Pot calling Kettle black here again..

Possible major blow for Huawei Smartphones

Like I have said many many time over.... The cost of doing business with China is a very security risk. Chinese bank requires foreign firm to install app with covert backdoor A multinational tech company gets schooled in the risks of doing business in China...

forums.macrumors.com

 

[jamezr]

This is what’s crazy you both are right. It’s very ignorant of you to think the US is not doing the same. Eric Snowden? Man stop

Dude...read the thread before you make a assumption like that. I have admitted and said the same. Except that is not the thread title now is it? Then I would rather not support a very oppressive communist government that has committed so many human rights violations against its people.

So educate yourself first before making inaccurate assumptions about someone.

 

[jamezr]

Huawei Now Has A Critical New Problem In China

Forget Trump And Google—Huawei Now Has A Critical New Problem In China

Huawei's "darkest secret" has just become a major new threat to the company.

www.forbes.com

 

[Tsepz]

Despite the US nonsense they made their target, incredible
Huawei is still the world's largest phone maker but Samsung is catching up fast

Huawei is still the world's largest phone maker but Samsung is catching up fast

Guess who has retained the pole phone maker position beating the geopolitical odds, can it hold much longer?

www.phonearena.com

The US may need to move fast to block as many Chinese OEMs as possible at this rate because it seems there are a few others waiting to take Huawei’s place in the next few years if they succeed in ending them.

They may need to drum up excuses as poor as the ones they did for banning Huawei and ZTE

 

[michael9891]

But how many of those handsets are sold outside of China?

 

[ramram55]

The others are using Qualcomm chips are safe for now. Wait till they stop using. Then they are cheats and spies.

 

[stylinexpat]

The others are using Qualcomm chips are safe for now. Wait till they stop using. Then they are cheats and spies.

To the best of my knowledge Huawei did not refuse to buy Qualcomm chipsets from Qualcomm.

 

[ANTAWNM26]

Dude...read the thread before you make a assumption like that. I have admitted and said the same. Except that is not the thread title now is it? Then I would rather not support a very oppressive communist government that has committed so many human rights violations against its people.

So educate yourself first before making inaccurate assumptions about someone.

Smh who has committed more human rights violations than America in the name of Christianity. Smh lame ass excuse

 

[jamezr]

Smh who has committed more human rights violations than America in the name of Christianity. Smh lame ass excuse

So you have a proof of this?

 

[ramram55]

To the best of my knowledge Huawei did not refuse to buy Qualcomm chipsets from Qualcomm.

Do not get me wrong. Huawei develope their own chips, which are far superior than Qualcomm.