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Two for the price of one! Both Sia and the Hilltop Hoods are from my little old home town of Adelaide, South Australia.

 

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Roane Avery - Demo EP

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One Night - Vicetone Remix by Matthew Koma. Not sure why I like this song so much but I do.

 

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Not a Demi fan but this one is pretty cool, I love when it plays in the club.
 

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Absolutely brilliant. Thanks to Mr. Robot for this.
 

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S.B.G

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my god there's some absolute garbage in here

people really just don't give a rats ass about music anymore, do they
Musical preference and taste is completely subjective. What you may find as "garbage" may be a gold mine to someone else. I don't think it's fair to dump on others' choices because they don't happen to be your choices or conform to a standard that you set for your own tastes.
 

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my god there's some absolute garbage in here

people really just don't give a rats ass about music anymore, do they

Musical preference and taste is completely subjective. What you may find as "garbage" may be a gold mine to someone else. I don't think it's fair to dump on others' choices because they don't happen to be your choices or conform to a standard that you set for your own tastes.

Agree with the sentiments expressed in this post, and very well said.

To @copykris, the first thought that crossed my mind reading your post was to idly speculate what your age might be. My second thought, though, was not speculation, but rather, a feeling of little doubt that you were born with a Y chromosome, in other words, that you are one of nature's gentlemen.

Now, musical taste is extraordinarily subjective and exceedingly personal.

However, I have met few who were not teenaged males who - when communicating with others about music - did not feel the imperative and overwhelming need to share their withering contempt for the musical choices of others.

Why not celebrate what you like, instead of pouring scorn on the choices of others?

Personally, my tastes are pretty eclectic. I love classical, Baroque, medieval & Renaissance music; then again, I love trad, fusion, funk, Latin, some rock, some pop, and a lot of folk and international - that is the indigenous music of some of the strange lands I visit, live in, and make a living from.

Now, there are musical forms I detest. But, I give them a wide berth, instead of berating the execrable taste of those who feel their lives enhanced by listening to such music…..
 
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Musical preference and taste is completely subjective. What you may find as "garbage" may be a gold mine to someone else. I don't think it's fair to dump on others' choices because they don't happen to be your choices or conform to a standard that you set for your own tastes.

i don't agree with that at all; there's a definite quantifiable and palpable difference between artists who are or were creatively superior and/or innovators in this art form we call music and... everything else (the majority of music that's being put out, pretty much)
Agree with the sentiments expressed in this post, and very well said.

To @copykris, the first thought that crossed my mind reading your post was to idly speculate what your age might be. My second thought, though, was not speculation, but rather, a feeling of little doubt that you were born with a Y chromosome, in other words, that you are one of nature's gentlemen.

Now, musical taste is extraordinarily subjective and exceedingly personal.

However, I have met few who were not teenaged males who - when communicating with others about music - did not feel the imperative and overwhelming need to share their withering contempt for the musical choices of others.

Why not celebrate what you like, instead of pouring scorn on the choices of others?

Personally, my tastes are pretty eclectic. I love classical, Baroque, medieval & Renaissance music; then again, I love trad, fusion, funk, Latin, some rock, some pop, and a lot of folk and international - that is the indigenous music of some of the strange lands I visit, live in, and make a living from.

Now, there are musical forms I detest. But, I give them a wide berth, instead of berating the execrable taste of those who feel their lives enhanced by listening to such music…..

it's not about individual genres

it's about the extreme mediocrity that seems to be the norm and gets celebrated these days

do point me to the next bob dylan if you happen to run across him/her though --we're overdue
 

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i don't agree with that at all; there's a definite quantifiable and palpable difference between artists who are or were creatively superior and/or innovators in this art form we call music and... everything else (the majority of music that's being put out, pretty much)


it's not about individual genres

it's about the extreme mediocrity that seems to be the norm and gets celebrated these days

do point me to the next bob dylan if you happen to run across him/her though --we're overdue

Let's see your playlist then?
 

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i don't agree with that at all; there's a definite quantifiable and palpable difference between artists who are or were creatively superior and/or innovators in this art form we call music and... everything else (the majority of music that's being put out, pretty much)


it's not about individual genres

it's about the extreme mediocrity that seems to be the norm and gets celebrated these days

do point me to the next bob dylan if you happen to run across him/her though --we're overdue

Well, I think I take issue more with your tone, - this splenetic online and intolerant rage which is so easily triggered, and the utter certainty of your convictions - more than your content, some of which I would actually find myself in reluctant agreement with.

And yes, it is about individual genres; some people are extraordinarily intolerant and narrow-minded in what they will accept can be classed as music. Personally, I prefer a wide and inclusive definition; at the very least, it leaves me open to being able to explore new sounds and cultures.

However, I will make a few general points about the music industry and the choices that it has made, as well as the changes that it has been made respond to.

Crude capital, and business interests and safety in the artistic world (signing music that was similar to what was already known to be a hit, rather than risking signing something new) increasingly have been the way music was packaged and marketed for the past few decades.

Thus, the commercial passion - and preference - for bland music, and blander, constructed, or manufactured, nice-looking groups (it is safer, and your lead singers are not usually dating heroin) - such as the 'boy bands' - over something that grew organically from a group of guys and gals that came together in someone's garage and bashed drums, or strangled sound until some mad fusion of talent and voice gave rise to original and creative music, has meant - in recent years - that genuinely original talent and talented groups often found it a lot harder to get signed in the first place.

These days - precisely because so much that is released and still called music is so utterly controlled - including radio music stations who give their DJs playlists, rather than allowing them to come up with their own and enable people to actually hear or listen to something new and striking - it has become increasingly difficult to hear anything new or different.

When I listen to radio music stations, I listen to shows (invariably broadcasting during the graveyard slot, late at night, when insomniacs and lorry drivers, and maybe, some introverts listen) where the DJ is a music specialist, with an encyclopaedic knowledge of - and passion for - music, and an openness and a willingness to play a few tracks submitted by a totally unknown group in the hope that someone might want to listen to what they have written.

Add to that the technological transformation and individualised atomisation of the way music is consumed and marketed - and the way the music industry itself has been increasingly by-passed by these developments - with the introduction of the iPod and iTunes. This is nothing short of utterly revolutionary and has totally transformed (and not always for the better) the music industry, sometimes in ways we haven't even begun to fully recognise yet.

None of these are in any way encouraging of the development - and emergence of - and recognition of - new (or, for that matter, old) talent.

Indeed, as with so many other areas of life, I'd argue that the old 'ladders' of social mobility are in the process of being removed, too. Traditionally, music, spots, sometimes acting, and indeed education, were means by which social mobility occurred; talented kids could make a decent living and get recognition and material reward from their talents. These days, I would argue that it is an awful lot harder for a bright kid from a poor, or less well off background, to 'make it' as a successful musician, song-writer, composer, singer than it might have been thirty or forty years ago.

The next Bob Dylan? Even if he exists, I'll wager he will not be discovered - let alone recognised - under current conditions.


Let's see your playlist then?

Well, yes. I suppose that I'l echo this.
 
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copykris

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Let's see your playlist then?

i never listen to any music on my computer and my ipod is in my car, but from what i can remember some of the last songs that shuffled by earlier were within you, without you by the beatles, rats in the cellar by aerosmith, ohio river boat song by palace music, happy by the rolling stones, sam cooke's twistin the night away and it was in the middle of nirvana's aneurysm when i turned the key about an hour ago

and scepticalscribe, i'm not intolerant nor narrow minded about what kind of genres i like, i like everything from jazz to pop, classical to hip hop and back, as long as there's an artistic quality to it and/or it's played/sung with conviction and passion
 

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i never listen to any music on my computer and my ipod is in my car, but from what i can remember some of the last songs that shuffled by earlier were within you, without you by the beatles, rats in the cellar by aerosmith, ohio river boat song by palace music, happy by the rolling stones, sam cooke's twistin the night away and it was in the middle of nirvana's aneurysm when i turned the key about an hour ago

and scepticalscribe, i'm not intolerant nor narrow minded about what kind of genres i like, i like everything from jazz to pop, classical to hip hop and back, as long as there's an artistic quality to it and/or it's played/sung with conviction and passion

Okay, fair enough, and fair comment. No disagreement or quarrel whatsoever with that sentiment.
 
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