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I know it well, and I just started playing! :eek:

It's starts simple. Age 17, one Aria LP copy, a year later, An Ibanez Blazer, then a year later a Fender Telecaster, then two guitars a year, then three to six a year. I finally kicked the disease at guitar #60 and sold everything, or traded them off, finished a couple of college degrees, got married, and I have and use two relatively inexpensive guitars, stock. No fixing them, no modifying them, no fooling with Floyd Rose parts, etc ... just having the energy going into playing and getting better.

My drummer still has GAS nearing his 20th guitar or bass, but oddly, for now, has only one drum set, but is entertaining an electronic set. He will probably get drum set GAS and that takes copious amounts of space. He got married and has a baby so GAS will have to stop if he wants to have a normal life without too much conflict of interest. Wives and responsibilities (college, career, kids) don't lend well to GAS unless you are a multi-millionaire or a young person who lives at home.

Where I live either the very rich have tons of guitars, or kids with parents who spoil them. Working people, people with families, people in school, people with girlfriend/boyfriends need the time and money for stuff other than gear like rent/mortgages, clothes, and groceries. :)

The most extreme GAS situation I knew was a drum geek who had five sets and maybe 50+ cymbals. Adding to this he had rare drums from all over the world. Though he didn't play a lick of guitar, he knew what was spot on so he had his 1959 Gibson Les Paul, Pre-CBS Stratocasters and Telecasters, and some other top of the line vintage gear just in case any stray guitarist may want to join him in a jam session. And oh yeah, basses too. Either he was very wealthy, or my guess, is that he was a Silicon Valley type Wozniak guy who had too much money with nothing to do but spend it. His drum room was 500 square feet of just his sets and drum and percussion museum. He lived in one bedroom and the other bedroom was full of PA gear, unopened cases of guitars and basses, and cables/wiring/stomp boxes-boards just in case he would get called on tour. Junk food, soda*, mounds of unwashed laundry** and living right above a take out pizza joint. Perfect for living the GAS life.

*For some it's not soda, but beer, or other substances not so good for longevity.

**The unwashed laundry, no matter how gross, still cannot stink worse than the vintage guitars that have layers of decades of smoke (of all kinds), beer, whiskey, sweat (and God knows what other body fluids), and even vomit on them. A real collector never gets out the guitar polish unless it's new stuff. The cases that house these sometimes more than expensive than cars types of guitars, have to stink even worse than the guitars. It's kind of like cigars. This has to repel anybody of the female sex, unless it's Nancy Wilson :)

Below are some serious, TUMS approved, GAS collections.
 

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DPB17

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Ireland, unfortunately.
My Guitars

Guitars

Crappy Oakman-Far Right
Tanglewood Spruce Top-My Baby-Middle
Some Crappy Nylon String-Far Left
Cherryburst Gibson Les Paul-Top
:)
 

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Andrew K.

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Jul 9, 2008
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It's starts simple. Age 17, one Aria LP copy, a year later, An Ibanez Blazer, then a year later a Fender Telecaster, then two guitars a year, then three to six a year. I finally kicked the disease at guitar #60 and sold everything, or traded them off, finished a couple of college degrees, got married, and I have and use two relatively inexpensive guitars, stock. No fixing them, no modifying them, no fooling with Floyd Rose parts, etc ... just having the energy going into playing and getting better.

My drummer still has GAS nearing his 20th guitar or bass, but oddly, for now, has only one drum set, but is entertaining an electronic set. He will probably get drum set GAS and that takes copious amounts of space. He got married and has a baby so GAS will have to stop if he wants to have a normal life without too much conflict of interest. Wives and responsibilities (college, career, kids) don't lend well to GAS unless you are a multi-millionaire or a young person who lives at home.

Where I live either the very rich have tons of guitars, or kids with parents who spoil them. Working people, people with families, people in school, people with girlfriend/boyfriends need the time and money for stuff other than gear like rent/mortgages, clothes, and groceries. :)

The most extreme GAS situation I knew was a drum geek who had five sets and maybe 50+ cymbals. Adding to this he had rare drums from all over the world. Though he didn't play a lick of guitar, he knew what was spot on so he had his 1959 Gibson Les Paul, Pre-CBS Stratocasters and Telecasters, and some other top of the line vintage gear just in case any stray guitarist may want to join him in a jam session. And oh yeah, basses too. Either he was very wealthy, or my guess, is that he was a Silicon Valley type Wozniak guy who had too much money with nothing to do but spend it. His drum room was 500 square feet of just his sets and drum and percussion museum. He lived in one bedroom and the other bedroom was full of PA gear, unopened cases of guitars and basses, and cables/wiring/stomp boxes-boards just in case he would get called on tour. Junk food, soda*, mounds of unwashed laundry** and living right above a take out pizza joint. Perfect for living the GAS life.

*For some it's not soda, but beer, or other substances not so good for longevity.

**The unwashed laundry, no matter how gross, still cannot stink worse than the vintage guitars that have layers of decades of smoke (of all kinds), beer, whiskey, sweat (and God knows what other body fluids), and even vomit on them. A real collector never gets out the guitar polish unless it's new stuff. The cases that house these sometimes more than expensive than cars types of guitars, have to stink even worse than the guitars. It's kind of like cigars. This has to repel anybody of the female sex, unless it's Nancy Wilson :)

Below are some serious, TUMS approved, GAS collections.

:eek::eek::eek: WHOA!!! okay I don't have it that bad! haha very nice though, but yeah school is the most important thing along with having a job at the same time, I really only wanted 3 , right now the first one is the Nitro Highway One Body ( BLACK ) with vintage stained Maple Neck ( MIM ) but with the old gold logo with vintage tuners and CS pups ( will buy later ) I'm in the process of staining the Neck now. but the next one will be an American Strat 3 tone sunburst with Rosewood Neck. I'll buy that one when I get really good, maybe 3 or 4 years, but the dream blues guitar I want is a Gibson 1970's L5 Blonde Semi-hollow body Electric, that one I will wait til I find the right one, maybe in 10 years, oh and I have a Fender acoustic but I think when I may get a Martin before the American Strat, but THAT'S IT! :D I'm sure my tastes may change but I usually keep whatever I choose carefully. I went through 5 acoustics, and 4 electrics before I got to building the Strat and getting the acoustic all with very minor knowledge of how to play. But asking alot of people who have played and trying different Necks and sounds from videos, I was hooked on Fender Strats and for some reason hooked on the Gibson Hollow bodies, not the Les Pauls. But I will try to control my gas from getting to 60 guitars at once :eek: I have seen many examples of this "sickness" and if I get it or not I will fight through it not matter how fun it is!
 

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I went through 5 acoustics, and 4 electrics before I got to building the Strat and getting the acoustic all with very minor knowledge of how to play.

The very best way to gain knowledge of playing, and get from the beginner or advanced beginner stage to a true musician with knowledge of many instruments and how the guitar fits in, is to focus entirely on the music and music theory. Gear envy, and GAS, is probably the single worst barrier I have seen in over 30 years of playing to one getting to one's best ability.

Of course, when you work, then work. When you do school, focus on that. But music is a really much harsher taskmaster that requires total dedication to the music and theory without the trappings of worrying about gear, clothing, groupies, or substances. And all this without paying 95% percent of the time. I have seen so many guitarists soar in ability as soon as they stopped worrying about gear. My jazz teacher told me that every time I pick up a guitar, work on a new thing you don't know how to do. Don't wallow in repetition of worrying about sound, settings, or even plugging in. I have my best progress these last ten years since I have only pretty basic guitars, and I have ventured far beyond my comfort zone now that I look into the music that the tools, the guitars, are only a very small part of.

Get your theory down (reading, writing, practicing, listening) and you can pick up virtually any guitar and sound amazing. :)
 

Andrew K.

macrumors 65816
Jul 9, 2008
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The very best way to gain knowledge of playing, and get from the beginner or advanced beginner stage to a true musician with knowledge of many instruments and how the guitar fits in, is to focus entirely on the music and music theory. Gear envy, and GAS, is probably the single worst barrier I have seen in over 30 years of playing to one getting to one's best ability.

Of course, when you work, then work. When you do school, focus on that. But music is a really much harsher taskmaster that requires total dedication to the music and theory without the trappings of worrying about gear, clothing, groupies, or substances. And all this without paying 95% percent of the time. I have seen so many guitarists soar in ability as soon as they stopped worrying about gear. My jazz teacher told me that every time I pick up a guitar, work on a new thing you don't know how to do. Don't wallow in repetition of worrying about sound, settings, or even plugging in. I have my best progress these last ten years since I have only pretty basic guitars, and I have ventured far beyond my comfort zone now that I look into the music that the tools, the guitars, are only a very small part of.

Get your theory down (reading, writing, practicing, listening) and you can pick up virtually any guitar and sound amazing. :)

Cool thanks for the advice I will definitely do that :)
 

OceanView

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Sep 16, 2005
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Here are mine:

Gibson Les Paul Studio and an Epiphone Les Paul Black Beauty





Do you notice any difference in the feel of the two guitars?
I've always wondered about the quality of the Epiphones but I never really played the 2 brands side by side.
 
Do you notice any difference in the feel of the two guitars?
I've always wondered about the quality of the Epiphones but I never really played the 2 brands side by side.

IMO, the black beauty would be better in this case, because a gibson les paul studio is well, bottom of the line of the les paul collection, it was designed for the studio only, so the quality of the guitar would be about equal to the epiphone, I mean the les paul is great, by both manufacturers, although they are both owned by gibson.
 

OceanView

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IMO, the black beauty would be better in this case, because a gibson les paul studio is well, bottom of the line of the les paul collection, it was designed for the studio only, so the quality of the guitar would be about equal to the epiphone, I mean the les paul is great, by both manufacturers, although they are both owned by gibson.

Is your opinion based solely on the level of each model?
I don't really know that much about the different Les Paul models but just looking at these pix, it looks like both are solid bodies with similar rosewood fretboards.

In the past I've had both the more expensive solid body Jackson/Charvelle and the less expensive bolt on neck models and personally I liked the feel of the bolt on necks better. I'm sure others will disagree with that.
So I guess what I'm saying is, model level/price should not determine which model is better. It's really a personal choice.
 
Is your opinion based solely on the level of each model?
I don't really know that much about the different Les Paul models but just looking at these pix, it looks like both are solid bodies with similar rosewood fretboards.

In the past I've had both the more expensive solid body Jackson/Charvelle and the less expensive bolt on neck models and personally I liked the feel of the bolt on necks better. I'm sure others will disagree with that.
So I guess what I'm saying is, model level/price should not determine which model is better. It's really a personal choice.

My personal opinion is, I don't really like the feel of les pauls overall, the neck is too thick, and the body ways alot more than my guitar(s). I was going to buy a LP standard+ but instead I found the Maton MS2000 DLX, it blew me away, such a beautiful guitar it was. But hey, everyone has their opinions.
 

OceanView

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My personal opinion is, I don't really like the feel of les pauls overall, the neck is too thick, and the body ways alot more than my guitar(s). I was going to buy a LP standard+ but instead I found the Maton MS2000 DLX, it blew me away, such a beautiful guitar it was. But hey, everyone has their opinions.

Yeah, I feel the same way about the LPs I've never felt that it was for me but many people love them.

Not familiar with the Matons but looks like a nice guitar.
I've been so out of the guitar world I'm sure there are so many new great guitar companies now.
 

63dot

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My personal opinion is, I don't really like the feel of les pauls overall, the neck is too thick, and the body ways alot more than my guitar(s). I was going to buy a LP standard+ but instead I found the Maton MS2000 DLX, it blew me away, such a beautiful guitar it was. But hey, everyone has their opinions.

Unfortunately, the Les Pauls of all sorts are too heavy for my taste, too. I did come across a Les Paul Classic with a thin neck, the first I have seen or heard about since the original Les Paul sunbursts of 1958-60.

But unfortunately most Les Pauls don't have the slim taper neck before or after the '58-'60 examples and even among those models, which used to be common place when I was starting out, aren't all that consistent. But none of them have that baseball bat neck like the '69-early 1980s Les Pauls.

The owner of my Les Paul before I had it, professionally sanded down the neck to make it much more playable, and some have done this like Zakk Wylde. But mine did not have the target motif on the body. :)
 

Benguitar

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I'm sorry but I lost it when I saw the Jonas Brothers cover. :rolleyes:

Here is how I go about things, "I'm a musician, I play music, I like playing different stuff, Therefore I do not have a favorite genre." I don't really care if you don't like the Jonas Brothers, or Hannah Montana, or Marilyn Manson, I personally won't judge weather or not I love/hate them until I meet them, because until then they haven't done anything to offend me, so why hate them if you haven't met them and if they haven't done something tragic like flying planes into buildings? Just don't take out your personal hate against an artist out on someone who just plays their music. "Tis all I'm asking for."

I'll say it again, I like music - I like all kinds of music, it keeps my playing interesting and keeps my "chops" fresh. (And I didn't mean for that to sound arrogant at all, I just couldn't think of a better way of saying it) ;):)
 

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Here is how I go about things, "I'm a musician, I play music, I like playing different stuff, Therefore I do not have a favorite genre." I don't really care if you don't like the Jonas Brothers, or Hannah Montana, or Marilyn Manson, I personally won't judge weather or not I love/hate them until I meet them, because until then they haven't done anything to offend me, so why hate them if you haven't met them and if they haven't done something tragic like flying planes into buildings? Just don't take out your personal hate against an artist out on someone who just plays their music. "Tis all I'm asking for."

I'll say it again, I like music - I like all kinds of music, it keeps my playing interesting and keeps my "chops" fresh. (And I didn't mean for that to sound arrogant at all, I just couldn't think of a better way of saying it) ;):)

That's wise. When I was your age, I wanted to like only a select cadre of bands, clothing, and guitar gear.

But as I got older, I learned to appreciate other bands, and other styles of music, and eventually, other instruments. BTW coltrane rocks.
 

Benguitar

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That's wise. When I was your age, I wanted to like only a select cadre of bands, clothing, and guitar gear.

But as I got older, I learned to appreciate other bands, and other styles of music, and eventually, other instruments. BTW coltrane rocks.

Yay! It's nice to have another MacRumors member agree with me! :)


*high five*
 

63dot

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Yay! It's nice to have another MacRumors member agree with me! :)


*high five*

What's funny was there was this really great jazz guitarist in town I had known about for over 20 years, around age 45-ish and he didn't want to have anything to do with a pop or rock star, but when one came calling and asked him to be their backup guitarist, he was there in a heartbeat.

When I saw them on American Idol, I saw him there, jazz guitarist and all, degree in hand and all, playing backup three/four chord songs for one of pop music's top acts in Billboard Chart history (not Beatles or Elvis, but someone pretty darn huge).

He opened his mind to new horizons and has been very, very well paid for his services. I have the most respect for someone who can find a decent living doing music. It's better than becoming a lawyer, medical doctor, stock broker, MBA, or CPA working in some unknown corporate cubicle until one's likely early death.

I always liked his guitar playing, and he was an "average" jazz guitarist, but could pretty much read music well enough to play anything in pop music on two hours notice, fly to any country in a flash, do gigs and recording sessions, and not complain.

I know a ton a terrible guitarists with top of the line guitars and gear and they never get heard of by anyone outside of their town. He has a $599 Epiphone Joe Pass guitar, but he has command of his chops, and plays for and meets all the stars, and stays in five star hotels around the world. He has the proper focus and humility and that's what made him back one of rock and pop's biggest stars in history.

If the Jonas Brothers asked me to play backup, or even Hannah Montana, you better believe I would take that up. I spent 15 years on and off in graduate school and I know labor law, law, business, and computer engineering and I would much rather play banal songs, and get well paid for it, than be just another computer/network engineer, lawyer, or business consultant stressed out wishing I could do something else.
 

Benguitar

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What's funny was there was this really great jazz guitarist in town I had known about for over 20 years, around age 45-ish and he didn't want to have anything to do with a pop or rock star, but when one came calling and asked him to be their backup guitarist, he was there in a heartbeat.

When I saw them on American Idol, I saw him there, jazz guitarist and all, degree in hand and all, playing backup three/four chord songs for one of pop music's top acts in Billboard Chart history (not Beatles or Elvis, but someone pretty darn huge).

He opened his mind to new horizons and has been very, very well paid for his services. I have the most respect for someone who can find a decent living doing music. It's better than becoming a lawyer, medical doctor, stock broker, MBA, or CPA working in some unknown corporate cubicle until one's likely early death.

I always liked his guitar playing, and he was an "average" jazz guitarist, but could pretty much read music well enough to play anything in pop music on two hours notice, fly to any country in a flash, do gigs and recording sessions, and not complain.

I know a ton a terrible guitarists with top of the line guitars and gear and they never get heard of by anyone outside of their town. He has a $599 Epiphone Joe Pass guitar, but he has command of his chops, and plays for and meets all the stars, and stays in five star hotels around the world. He has the proper focus and humility and that's what made him back one of rock and pop's biggest stars in history.

If the Jonas Brothers asked me to play backup, or even Hannah Montana, you better believe I would take that up. I spent 15 years on and off in graduate school and I know labor law, law, business, and computer engineering and I would much rather play banal songs, and get well paid for it, than be just another computer/network engineer, lawyer, or business consultant stressed out wishing I could do something else.


Exactly, I figure even if they never ask you to play for them at least you were prepared to do so which would be better than them asking you to play for them and you being unable to play their music because you kept yourself limited to few genres.
 

OceanView

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What's funny was there was this really great jazz guitarist in town I had known about for over 20 years, around age 45-ish and he didn't want to have anything to do with a pop or rock star, but when one came calling and asked him to be their backup guitarist, he was there in a heartbeat.

When I saw them on American Idol, I saw him there, jazz guitarist and all, degree in hand and all, playing backup three/four chord songs for one of pop music's top acts in Billboard Chart history (not Beatles or Elvis, but someone pretty darn huge).

He opened his mind to new horizons and has been very, very well paid for his services. I have the most respect for someone who can find a decent living doing music. It's better than becoming a lawyer, medical doctor, stock broker, MBA, or CPA working in some unknown corporate cubicle until one's likely early death.

I always liked his guitar playing, and he was an "average" jazz guitarist, but could pretty much read music well enough to play anything in pop music on two hours notice, fly to any country in a flash, do gigs and recording sessions, and not complain.

I know a ton a terrible guitarists with top of the line guitars and gear and they never get heard of by anyone outside of their town. He has a $599 Epiphone Joe Pass guitar, but he has command of his chops, and plays for and meets all the stars, and stays in five star hotels around the world. He has the proper focus and humility and that's what made him back one of rock and pop's biggest stars in history.

If the Jonas Brothers asked me to play backup, or even Hannah Montana, you better believe I would take that up. I spent 15 years on and off in graduate school and I know labor law, law, business, and computer engineering and I would much rather play banal songs, and get well paid for it, than be just another computer/network engineer, lawyer, or business consultant stressed out wishing I could do something else.

So true. I would love to play guitar and get paid well but I have seen many talented guitarist and musicians for that matter with degrees from good music schools starve because they never got a lucky break.
Talent is one thing but I think you need to be "marketable" and lucky at the same time to make it in this industry.
 

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So true. I would love to play guitar and get paid well but I have seen many talented guitarist and musicians for that matter with degrees from good music schools starve because they never got a lucky break.
Talent is one thing but I think you need to be "marketable" and lucky at the same time to make it in this industry.

I like it when I see a journey of an acoustic guitarist/singer from Arkansas come into a show like American Idol, usually get overshadowed week to week, but work hard and improve ever so slightly and consistently, and boom, win the whole thing.

Many congrats to Kris, our new American Idol.
 

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My Ibanez and Kay. I'm saving for a Breedlove AC25-SR Plus and a white Schecter C-1 Hellraiser :D
 

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