PowerMac G6 at WWDC?

[wdlove]

Hope springs eternal. With Apple lately they have been doing things out of character. I have also been hoping that Steve will announce something new at WWDC. The only problem, if it were a G6 then I would be afraid of the Rev. A. Would rather see an upgrade to the the 970 to whatever they decide to call the chip.

 

[wiseguy27]

like bleeding edge?

ok, thats my dream over

oh well, i was kinda hopeing for some new technology to come out at WWDC cos i plan to buy a new G5 shortly after that. I feel abit uneasy about spening £1500 on 2 year old technology. Especialy when everyone on here slag Apple off for having great software but bad hardware.

Imagining for a moment that a G6 (or dual core) does come next month, in my view, the bigger question is, "would you want to pay a huge amount and rassle with a brand new technology?" Or would you prefer to leave it to the "bleeders" to take the jabs from the new G6 technology and buy a (more stable, less problematic) Rev B later on? If you prefer Rev B, even if a G6 comes out next month, you're looking at a minimum of 7 months or more (plus shipping delays, of course)!

 

[risc]

Especialy when everyone on here slag Apple off for having great software but bad hardware.

WTF! The G5 is an amazing piece of kit. Have you actually used a G5?

 

[Flynnstone]

I think Apple might have something up its sleeve but not G6.

Reasoning behind this is as follows. There has been a clamour for a while now about PCI-Express for GFX on the logic board. It would seem to me, that if Apple was planning on having the current revision around for a reasonable amount of time, that they would have spent the time reworking the logic board for PCI-Express based graphics cards.

The fact that they havn't, suggests to me that it isn't worth the effort because this logic board is soon going to be replaced by one that supports something new (read multi-core G5's) in the pretty near future.

Am probably miles off but it is something to think about.

Simon

I don't think this is an issue. PCI Express/AGP is somewhat irrelevant to the processor. Its just the interface between the graphics card and the memory/host bridge. The interface between the processor and the host bridge will be the same. A multi-core 9xx (970 like) will likely have the same or similar bus to the present 970.

 

[Flynnstone]

would be nice if its true. Of course, the chips used in those boxes don't have any close relation to the G5 really, so they aren't an accurate predictor.

Steve's a hardware kind of guy. I think Power Macs are his baby so to speak. Think Steve would be happy that a low cost game console would have more compute power than a PowerMac.
The game console will have 900 series PowerPC architecture. IBM "sold" there 400 series line to AMCC. (I can't remember about the 700 series).

 

[Flynnstone]

Especialy when everyone on here slag Apple off for having great software but bad hardware.

If you can take 1100 PowerMac G5s, slap them together in a few months and make the third fastest super computer in the world ...
thats not bad hardware!

 

[m-dogg]

WTF! The G5 is an amazing piece of kit. Have you actually used a G5?

amen brother!

 

[psychicVTEC]

I know this is a old thread but I came across some very interesting info about the G5 and G6 processors. I dunno if I was mislead or not. But since IBM designs the processors for Apple and Motorola manufactures them, whats to say that IBM can't put the G3-G6 processors into their servers/computers? If the information is correct the G5 was originally released by IBM in May of 1998 and the G6 the following year in May of 1999. Then why was the iMac and Power Macs of the day still G3s?

And with the G6 already beginning to ship in 1999, why didn't Power Macs and/or iMacs of the day ship with those chips?

Plus why was Apple just getting to the G4 in 1999 when the G6 was out at that time? And started to ship the G5s out in 2003 when IBM was shipping them back in 1998?

Any theories to why we all seem to be ripped off? It seems to me that IBM was keeping all the goodies and letting Apple have the scraps off the table. If you get what I mean.

The G5 came out in 2003. The G4 came out in 1999. It took 4 years before it went from G4 to G5. We still have another 2 to 3 years before we hit G6. It might happen sooner, what with all the news of Cell processors and multi-cores.

 

[Chundles]

I know this is a old thread but I came across some very interesting info about the G5 and G6 processors. I dunno if I was mislead or not. But since IBM designs the processors for Apple and Motorola manufactures them, whats to say that IBM can't put the G3-G6 processors into their servers/computers? If the information is correct the G5 was originally released by IBM in May of 1998 and the G6 the following year in May of 1999. Then why was the iMac and Power Macs of the day still G3s?

And with the G6 already beginning to ship in 1999, why didn't Power Macs and/or iMacs of the day ship with those chips?

Plus why was Apple just getting to the G4 in 1999 when the G6 was out at that time? And started to ship the G5s out in 2003 when IBM was shipping them back in 1998?

Any theories to why we all seem to be ripped off? It seems to me that IBM was keeping all the goodies and letting Apple have the scraps off the table. If you get what I mean.

Man, talk about resurrected.

The G6 did not ship in 1999, the G5 was not out in 1998.

If Apple were to continue with PPC architecture, the G6 would probably be based on the Power5 big iron chip they are starting to roll out now - certainly not in 1999. Where on earth are you getting your info?

edit - here's the timeline:

Moto 750 (G3): 1997
Moto 74xx (G4): 1999
IBM 970 (G5): 2003